Apple Pulls App for Creating Fake Driver's Licenses Following U.S. Senator's Complaint

Discussion in 'MacRumors.com News Discussion' started by MacRumors, Dec 12, 2011.

  1. fontman macrumors member

    fontman

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2009
    Location:
    Costa mesa
  2. yeseter macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2010
    #102
    Mad Politicians

    I think u should generally persecute all kids,just for an idea of thinking of making false id and false money.
    In that case every kid is a manufacturer of currency therefore guilty of federal crime and should be executed according to the law.
    Do not give me a break.I'll step on it while you morons will really get full stop.
    Politicians like this do really belong into mental institutions.
    U old buffer-Are u still riding on the terrorist national tread wave?Wake up man,now everyone sings Green this green that song.
     
  3. sn macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2011
    #103
    what's your point? they should have left it up?
     
  4. davidwr macrumors newbie

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2011
    #104
    Difficult to discern from the genuine one???

    >creating a high quality counterfeit driver's license difficult to discern from one that's genuine.

    Um, my driver's license has tactile elements that aren't trivial to fake. Not to mention a mag-stripe.

    Plus it has visual elements that are almost impossible to duplicate with home- or small-office printers, inlcuding color-shifting ink, microprinting, and both a 2-d "bar code" and a mag-stripe whose data is consistent with the printed data. Oh, and did I mention that the face and data both match what is in the state database?

    OK, this might fool a store clerk from another state who didn't know what security features to look for when I buy a 6-pack, but nothing I could make at home would fool any competent clerk or bartender in my own state.

    As for getting through an airport or other high-security area, I assume the checkers do a better job than your average store clerk.

    About the only people this tool would benefit are identity thieves who are out of state, and who use a copy of someone else's real documents to get a job or qualify for benefits. This will work because most employers just make a black-and-white photocopy or a scan and run a "is this the right address for this name" or other check but they don't confirm that the photo on the ID matches the photo in the government database. It MIGHT also allow someone to open a bank account but if they bothered to do a thumbprint match AND the state that issued the document also took thumbprints, game over.
     
  5. chirpie macrumors 6502a

    chirpie

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2010
    #105
    And just about every bank worth a darn has a fingerprint program in place.
     
  6. uwbadger macrumors member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    #106
    Okay, then cite the law(s), Mr. Appeal-To-Authority. While you're at it, explain why Hollywood prop-makers and tourist-trap vendors aren't routinely busted for this.


    (Obligatory Woz fake-ID story: http://archive.woz.org/letters/general/78.html)
     
  7. I WAS the one macrumors 6502a

    I WAS the one

    Joined:
    May 16, 2006
    #107
    huh? Do this politician know that Photoshop exists? call him now!!!! just to see if is going to ban Photoshop! hurry! :D
     
  8. kalsta macrumors 68000

    kalsta

    Joined:
    May 17, 2010
    Location:
    Australia
    #108
    Because people are so obsessed with the ideologies of 'freedom of speech', 'freedom of expression', freedom to install whatever they want on their device, etc, etc, etc… they are quick to forget that we live in a society which is governed by certain laws—laws that are (in theory) designed to protect its citizens.

    If you disagree with a certain law, take a political stand by all means—it's a democracy. But don't blame a company for actually trying to comply with the law.
     
  9. JAT macrumors 603

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2001
    Location:
    Mpls, MN
    #109
    You guys actually go to banks?

    Isn't that what the internet is for?
     
  10. dwhittington macrumors regular

    dwhittington

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2007
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    #110
    This is moronic

    Sorry, I couldn't help it. I don't usually call them like this, but the fact that there's an app that can create a drivers license that can bypass TSA security seems irrelevant. Pulling the app isn't going to keep terrorists from bypassing security or little Johnny from buying booze. There are hundreds of image editing applications that can produce similar results. Just because one app makes it easy, doesn't open a gaping security hole, it just exposes it.

    If the identification cards used in America lack controls to validate their authenticity, perhaps thats where the problem should be fixed. Sure, pull the app. But fix the freaking security problem.

    :mad:
     
  11. mossme89 macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2009
    #111
    I believe Congress is a threat to public security, but you don't see anything done about that, do you?
     
  12. Dr McKay macrumors 68040

    Dr McKay

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2010
    Location:
    Kirkland
    #112
    Its the Human being you show your ID to thats the weak link.
     
  13. marco114 macrumors 6502

    marco114

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2001
    Location:
    USA
    #113
    Our freedoms are trampled on every day by our Government

    I am really shocked when people say "It was the right thing to do" and "I can't believe this app was allowed to exist."

    There was nothing illegal about this app. Using the same mentality, I guess I should have to have to "register with the government" because I use photoshop and illustrator. I mean I could make a fake ID using one of those probably in 10 minutes. I must be a terrorist right?!?!?!

    The government loves it when things like the App Store exist because they are a centralized place to go when they want to control something. They didn't have to go through the courts. They didn't even go after the vendor and ask them to maybe add some line to the license that says "This is for novelty purpose only".. Instead they cut them off at the distribution source.

    Same with Google for Search and domain registrars. It's very sad, the internet is slowly becoming a closed ecosystem before our eyes. And people just continue to let the government erode our freedoms and liberties that the founding fathers took so seriously.

    There's dozens of examples of the nanny state eroding our lives more and more. We can't even think for ourselves anymore. I can't even make a freaking left turn anymore without a Green Arrow telling me it's "SAFE" to go. Why don't they teach people how to freaking drive?

    Go ahead everyone, just bend over and take it because your government told you to do it.

    Stepping down from my soap box. Good day.
     
  14. doktordoris macrumors 6502a

    doktordoris

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2009
    #114
    why?
     
  15. JAT macrumors 603

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2001
    Location:
    Mpls, MN
    #115
    Yeah, can't wait until Skynet takes over and gets rid of all those bags of goo.
     
  16. thetoad30 macrumors regular

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2010
    #116
    While I respect your point since I hate stopping at a red arrow when no oncoming traffic is present, as a driver in the opposite lane, I prefer not to chance it with someone who doesn't know how to drive making a left turn in front of me and my family.

    Just because we're smart enough doesn't mean others are. And at some point, you sort of have to see that at least you're benefiting in a way since the chances of you being affected by their poor judgement goes way down.
     
  17. kingtj macrumors 68030

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2003
    Location:
    Brunswick, MD
    #117
    re: for real?

    Sure, I'm "for real"! My point is, if a developer REALLY wrote an application that breaks federal law in some way and is primarily used to make crime easier, government should look into arresting the developer. In cases where that's not obviously the case (like this silly fake drivers' license app), I think if they can't even make a clear argument for convicting the guy who MADE the app -- they definitely have no business demanding an online app store remove it!


     
  18. chirpie macrumors 6502a

    chirpie

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2010
    #118
    Sure. When I refinanced my mortgage, I made sure it was a flesh and blood local bank rep (as well as a small local bank period). When I want my docs notarized, I need a flesh and blood local bank rep. And when I do freelance work for the nice old ladies fixing their computers, they pay me with checks, which don't exactly transfer well using anything other than my local bank rep.

    Crazy huh? :)
     

Share This Page