Apple Pulls Apple Pay Support From Websites Selling White Nationalist and Nazi Apparel [Updated]

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Apple has disabled Apple Pay support on websites selling white nationalist and hate group apparel and accessories, reports BuzzFeed.

    While Apple did not provide a comment on its decision to pull Apple Pay from the websites, an Apple spokesperson pointed out Apple Pay guidelines that prevent the payments service from being used on sites promoting hate, intolerance, and violence based on race, age, gender, gender identity, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation.

    Apple's efforts to block Apple Pay from white nationalist websites comes following a "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where white nationalists and supremacists clashed with counterprotestors over the removal of the Robert E. Lee statue located in Emancipation Park. The event culminated in the death of one person and the injury of 19 others after a white nationalist drove a car into a crowd of people.

    While Apple has not made an official statement, Apple CEO Tim Cook shared two tweets earlier this week calling the events "heartbreaking" and condemning violence and racism.

    In addition to Apple, many other sites have been cracking down on white nationalist and white supremacist organizations. PayPal has also pulled payment support from some of the sites in question, while Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Wordpress, and Airbnb have made efforts to quell white nationalist activity on their platforms.

    Update: Apple CEO Tim Cook today wrote a letter to employees about the events that took place in Charlottesville over the weekend, which was shared by BuzzFeed. Apple will be making $1 million donations to the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League, along with matching employee donations between now and September 30.
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  2. ck2875 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 25, 2009
    How amazing would it be if the comments section for a PRSI article didn't immediately turn into a dumpster fire?
  3. jkcerda macrumors 6502


    Jun 10, 2013
    Criminal Mexi Midget
  4. SoggyCheese macrumors regular


    Nov 5, 2016
    Actualmente Londres, Reino Unido
    Good for them. Hopefully Paypal, MasterCard, Visa, and AmEx do the same.
  5. btrach144 macrumors 65816


    Aug 28, 2015
    So in other words they didn't remove Apple Pay from any sites because Apple Pay isn't supported anywhere besides and 1 or 2 other stores. (As an Apple Watch owner, I want to see Apple Pay integrated into more areas [just not Nazi sites])
  6. newyorksole macrumors 68030

    Apr 2, 2008
    New York.
  7. theheadguy macrumors 65816

    Apr 26, 2005
    Waiting for the first person to defend the rights of nazis, but not that of Apple's...
  8. Hastings101 macrumors 68020


    Jun 22, 2010
  9. alchemistmuffin macrumors 6502

    Dec 28, 2007
    I think this is type of news post that SHOULD NOT ALLOW ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENT.

    Have you seen other sites? It turned into political feces fight where everyone is throwing poop at each other.

    Seriously, just stop. Disable commenting. Turn it on in a year or so.
  10. theheadguy macrumors 65816

    Apr 26, 2005
    Are you joking? Did you not listen to the eulogy this morning? It was even played on Fox News.

    We will not halt a national discussion about the rise in white supremacy, antisemitism, racism, sexism, and hatred because you told us to stop.

    You can cover your ears and close your eyes, but the discussion is going to happen, and it needs to happen.
  11. SoggyCheese macrumors regular


    Nov 5, 2016
    Actualmente Londres, Reino Unido
    Erm....I used Apple Pay today to buy coffee from two diffferent locations, buy my lunch, buy some toiletries at the local chemists (drugstore for the colonists), and catch the Tube home. Our local supermarkets take it too, so I can sometimes go days at a time without getting my wallet out. There are even pubs around here that take it.

    So I don't know where you get this idea from that Apple Pay is hardly available. It's pretty much everywhere where I live.
  12. cmwade77 macrumors 6502a

    Nov 18, 2008
    First off, I think this is a good thing, but here is the big question:

    Is this also being done the other way around? In other words, are say sites sell Black Supremacist apparel (yes, they exist too) also having Apple Pay Support pulled? I would hope so, after all equality can't work one way.
  13. cmwade77 macrumors 6502a

    Nov 18, 2008
    I don't think so, I think we can all agree that this is a good thing in this case, the only question is if it is being applied equally to all sites selling racist merchandise?
  14. RiddlaBronc macrumors 6502a


    Oct 14, 2013
    Mcallen Tx
    This is an op that is Trolling for intentional provocations.
  15. BigHonkingDeal macrumors 6502a


    Feb 8, 2009
    Fort Pierce

    Of course it would have been more genuine if they did not need a news event to do this.....
  16. Nunyabinez macrumors 68000


    Apr 27, 2010
    Provo, UT
    While I think white supremacist groups are deplorable and disgusting, I am concerned when people start denying access to things based on what that individual believes to be morally repugnant.

    While I'm not trying to make a direct comparison between the two, there are plenty of people here who say "Hooray that Tim Cook won't let these people use Apple pay", who also said "How dare Oregonian bakers not make a cake for a gay wedding."

    I'm not sure I want to live in a country where people use economics to force their morality on others (even when I agree with their morality), and be honest, that's what Apple is doing here. And I've seen people twist any view that they don't believe in into "hate speech."
  17. Braderunner macrumors 6502

    Oct 2, 2015
    Yessssss! Once again, Apple is leading the way to a better every way...beyond technology. Way to go.
    One cannot deny that Apple tries to do what is the right thing to do...always.
  18. turbineseaplane, Aug 16, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2017

    turbineseaplane macrumors 68030


    Mar 19, 2008
    Good - Nazi's or anyone that sympathizes with such abhorrence and their ilk deserve no tolerance or accommodation.

    Kudos to the Cloudflare CEO as well.
    Nice to see some CEO backbone for a change. (Hi Twitter - how are you today?)

    Those who are staying silent or being complicit are really showing their true selves right now.

    Edit: Spoke too soon - Just saw Twitter nuked the DailyStormer accounts - Good work Twit..
  19. Braderunner macrumors 6502

    Oct 2, 2015
    Even people who don’t buy Apple products benefit from Apple's philosophy of doing what is right.
  20. WRChris, Aug 16, 2017
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2017

    WRChris macrumors 6502a


    Aug 17, 2016
    Why say what these racist sites are? Doesn't more clicks generally mean, more ad revenue?

    Just seems to me like you wouldn't want people flocking to these sites, even just to see what the fuss is about, if you wanted to hurt said sites.

    Good work, Apple. Even if you lose sales from racists, you're on the right side of this. I do believe this has more to do with PR than "backbone", unfortunately. They allowed sales via Apple Pay until now.

    Can I use Apple Pay to buy BLM merchandise?
  21. Menopause macrumors 6502a


    Feb 26, 2011
    Excellent, now do Antifa (probably the most violent domestic terrorist organization I've seen since 2016), BLM and some of those "holy" islamic sites that advocate Sharia in the West and the irrecoverable destruction of Israel.

    Oh wait, this is Apple we're talking about, sorry.
  22. Braderunner macrumors 6502

    Oct 2, 2015
    None! Happily...none!
  23. mariusignorello macrumors 65816

    Jun 9, 2013
    Ok that’s fine. Just do the same for other hate groups (Antifa, BLM.....).

    Trump was not wrong when he said both sides were at fault.
  24. LordVic macrumors 601

    Sep 7, 2011
    I just want to share, I originally had this thought process. Realizing that this might be a legit play by the WH to have a "turn-about" on the religious descrimination stories.

    But there's a big difference between baking a cake for gay people and discriminating on that grounds, and discriminating based on actions that run the risk or have caused violence or incitement of hate.

    Baking a cake for a gay wedding doesn't suddenly make the cake bakers gay. Making that cake doesn't actually impact the business, livelihood or capabilities of the cake baker. It does not impose someone elses ideals on someone.

    Nazism is the ideology of facism, authoritarianism, and directly imposing racial purity will on the populace.

    Don't make a false equivalency here. Not supporting gay marriage is nowhere NEAR the same level of Nazism.

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