Apple Pulls Apple Pay Support From Websites Selling White Nationalist and Nazi Apparel [Updated]

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Apple has disabled Apple Pay support on websites selling white nationalist and hate group apparel and accessories, reports BuzzFeed.

While Apple did not provide a comment on its decision to pull Apple Pay from the websites, an Apple spokesperson pointed out Apple Pay guidelines that prevent the payments service from being used on sites promoting hate, intolerance, and violence based on race, age, gender, gender identity, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation.

On Wednesday, Apple confirmed to BuzzFeed News that it had disabled Apple Pay support for a handful of websites that sold sweaters with Nazi logos, t-shirts emblazoned with the phrase "White Pride" and a bumper sticker showing a car plowing into stick figure demonstrators. [...]

Apple removed Apple Pay capabilities from little-known sites including AmericanVikings.com and VinlandClothing.com, the latter of which sells apparel with Nazi logos.
Apple's efforts to block Apple Pay from white nationalist websites comes following a "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where white nationalists and supremacists clashed with counterprotestors over the removal of the Robert E. Lee statue located in Emancipation Park. The event culminated in the death of one person and the injury of 19 others after a white nationalist drove a car into a crowd of people.

While Apple has not made an official statement, Apple CEO Tim Cook shared two tweets earlier this week calling the events "heartbreaking" and condemning violence and racism.

Heartbreaking scenes in #Charlottesville. Violence and racism have no place in America. - Tim Cook (@tim_cook) August 12, 2017

We've seen the terror of white supremacy & racist violence before. It's a moral issue - an affront to America. We must all stand against it - Tim Cook (@tim_cook) August 14, 2017
In addition to Apple, many other sites have been cracking down on white nationalist and white supremacist organizations. PayPal has also pulled payment support from some of the sites in question, while Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Wordpress, and Airbnb have made efforts to quell white nationalist activity on their platforms.

Update: Apple CEO Tim Cook today wrote a letter to employees about the events that took place in Charlottesville over the weekend, which was shared by BuzzFeed. Apple will be making $1 million donations to the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League, along with matching employee donations between now and September 30.
Team,

Like so many of you, equality is at the core of my beliefs and values. The events of the past several days have been deeply troubling for me, and I've heard from many people at Apple who are saddened, outraged or confused.

What occurred in Charlottesville has no place in our country. Hate is a cancer, and left unchecked it destroys everything in its path. Its scars last generations. History has taught us this time and time again, both in the United States and countries around the world. We must not witness or permit such hate and bigotry in our country, and we must be unequivocal about it. This is not about the left or the right, conservative or liberal. It is about human decency and morality. I disagree with the president and others who believe that there is a moral equivalence between white supremacists and Nazis, and those who oppose them by standing up for human rights. Equating the two runs counter to our ideals as Americans.

Regardless of your political views, we must all stand together on this one point -- that we are all equal. As a company, through our actions, our products and our voice, we will always work to ensure that everyone is treated equally and with respect. I believe Apple has led by example, and we're going to keep doing that. We have always welcomed people from every walk of life to our stores around the world and showed them that Apple is inclusive of everyone. We empower people to share their views and express themselves through our products.

In the wake of the tragic and repulsive events in Charlottesville, we are stepping up to help organizations who work to rid our country of hate. Apple will be making contributions of $1 million each to the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League. We will also match two-for-one our employees' donations to these and several other human rights groups, between now and September 30. In the coming days, iTunes will offer users an easy way to join us in directly supporting the work of the SPLC.

Dr. Martin Luther King said, "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." So, we will continue to speak up. These have been dark days, but I remain as optimistic as ever that the future is bright. Apple can and will play an important role in bringing about positive change.

Best,
Tim
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btrach144

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So in other words they didn't remove Apple Pay from any sites because Apple Pay isn't supported anywhere besides Apple.com and 1 or 2 other stores. (As an Apple Watch owner, I want to see Apple Pay integrated into more areas [just not Nazi sites])
 

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Note: Due to the political nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Politics, Religion, Social Issues forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.
I think this is type of news post that SHOULD NOT ALLOW ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENT.

Have you seen other sites? It turned into political feces fight where everyone is throwing poop at each other.

Seriously, just stop. Disable commenting. Turn it on in a year or so.
 

theheadguy

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I think this is type of news post that SHOULD NOT ALLOW ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENT. Have you seen other sites? It turned into political feces fight where everyone is throwing poop at each other. Seriously, just stop. Disable commenting. Turn it on in a year or so.
Are you joking? Did you not listen to the eulogy this morning? It was even played on Fox News.

We will not halt a national discussion about the rise in white supremacy, antisemitism, racism, sexism, and hatred because you told us to stop.

You can cover your ears and close your eyes, but the discussion is going to happen, and it needs to happen.
 
So in other words they didn't remove Apple Pay from any sites because Apple Pay isn't supported anywhere besides Apple and 1 or 2 other stores.
Erm....I used Apple Pay today to buy coffee from two diffferent locations, buy my lunch, buy some toiletries at the local chemists (drugstore for the colonists), and catch the Tube home. Our local supermarkets take it too, so I can sometimes go days at a time without getting my wallet out. There are even pubs around here that take it.

So I don't know where you get this idea from that Apple Pay is hardly available. It's pretty much everywhere where I live.
 

cmwade77

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First off, I think this is a good thing, but here is the big question:

Is this also being done the other way around? In other words, are say sites sell Black Supremacist apparel (yes, they exist too) also having Apple Pay Support pulled? I would hope so, after all equality can't work one way.
 

cmwade77

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I think this is type of news post that SHOULD NOT ALLOW ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENT.

Have you seen other sites? It turned into political feces fight where everyone is throwing poop at each other.

Seriously, just stop. Disable commenting. Turn it on in a year or so.
I don't think so, I think we can all agree that this is a good thing in this case, the only question is if it is being applied equally to all sites selling racist merchandise?
 

Nunyabinez

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While I think white supremacist groups are deplorable and disgusting, I am concerned when people start denying access to things based on what that individual believes to be morally repugnant.

While I'm not trying to make a direct comparison between the two, there are plenty of people here who say "Hooray that Tim Cook won't let these people use Apple pay", who also said "How dare Oregonian bakers not make a cake for a gay wedding."

I'm not sure I want to live in a country where people use economics to force their morality on others (even when I agree with their morality), and be honest, that's what Apple is doing here. And I've seen people twist any view that they don't believe in into "hate speech."
 

Braderunner

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Yessssss! Once again, Apple is leading the way to a better future...in every way...beyond technology. Way to go.
One cannot deny that Apple tries to do what is the right thing to do...always.
 

turbineseaplane

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Good - Nazi's or anyone that sympathizes with such abhorrence and their ilk deserve no tolerance or accommodation.

Kudos to the Cloudflare CEO as well.
Nice to see some CEO backbone for a change. (Hi Twitter - how are you today?)

Those who are staying silent or being complicit are really showing their true selves right now.

Edit: Spoke too soon - Just saw Twitter nuked the DailyStormer accounts - Good work Twit..
 
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WRChris

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Why say what these racist sites are? Doesn't more clicks generally mean, more ad revenue?

Just seems to me like you wouldn't want people flocking to these sites, even just to see what the fuss is about, if you wanted to hurt said sites.

Good work, Apple. Even if you lose sales from racists, you're on the right side of this. I do believe this has more to do with PR than "backbone", unfortunately. They allowed sales via Apple Pay until now.

Can I use Apple Pay to buy BLM merchandise?
 
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Menopause

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Excellent, now do Antifa (probably the most violent domestic terrorist organization I've seen since 2016), BLM and some of those "holy" islamic sites that advocate Sharia in the West and the irrecoverable destruction of Israel.

Oh wait, this is Apple we're talking about, sorry.
 

LordVic

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While I think white supremacist groups are deplorable and disgusting, I am concerned when people start denying access to things based on what that individual believes to be morally repugnant.

While I'm not trying to make a direct comparison between the two, there are plenty of people here who say "Hooray that Tim Cook won't let these people use Apple pay", who also said "How dare Oregonian bakers not make a cake for a gay wedding."

I'm not sure I want to live in a country where people use economics to force their morality on others (even when I agree with their morality), and be honest, that's what Apple is doing here. And I've seen people twist any view that they don't believe in into "hate speech."
I just want to share, I originally had this thought process. Realizing that this might be a legit play by the WH to have a "turn-about" on the religious descrimination stories.

But there's a big difference between baking a cake for gay people and discriminating on that grounds, and discriminating based on actions that run the risk or have caused violence or incitement of hate.

Baking a cake for a gay wedding doesn't suddenly make the cake bakers gay. Making that cake doesn't actually impact the business, livelihood or capabilities of the cake baker. It does not impose someone elses ideals on someone.

Nazism is the ideology of facism, authoritarianism, and directly imposing racial purity will on the populace.

Don't make a false equivalency here. Not supporting gay marriage is nowhere NEAR the same level of Nazism.
 
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