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First off, I think this is a good thing, but here is the big question:

Is this also being done the other way around? In other words, are say sites sell Black Supremacist apparel (yes, they exist too) also having Apple Pay Support pulled? I would hope so, after all equality can't work one way.
They can only pull support from sites they know about. If you'd provide the sites where the Black Supremacist apparel is being sold, maybe they will.
 
Are you joking? Did you not listen to the eulogy this morning? It was even played on Fox News.

We will not halt a national discussion about the rise in white supremacy, antisemitism, racism, sexism, and hatred because you told us to stop.

You can cover your ears and close your eyes, but the discussion is going to happen, and it needs to happen.

LOL, okay. There is no rise in any of those things, but keep believing what you want to believe. Good for Apple, they can do whatever they want.
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Ok that’s fine. Just do the same for other hate groups (Antifa, BLM.....).

Trump was not wrong when he said both sides were at fault.

Exactly. Anitfa is the only group at fault here. They have caused so much property destruction over the last year that it blows my mind. They were also "hired" to pretend to be "nazis" at this last event. It's a sick joke. Just consider their name: ANTI First Amendment.
 
Good - Nazi's or anyone that sympathizes with such abhorrence and their ilk deserve no tolerance or accommodation.

Kudos to the Cloudflare CEO as well.
Nice to see some CEO backbone for a change. (Hi Twitter - how are you today?)

Those who are staying silent or being complicit are really showing their true selves right now.

Edit: Spoke too soon - Just saw Twitter nuked the DailyStormer accounts - Good work Twit..

Shutting down free speech seems like such a ... Nazi thing to do...
 
While I think white supremacist groups are deplorable and disgusting, I am concerned when people start denying access to things based on what that individual believes to be morally repugnant.

While I'm not trying to make a direct comparison between the two, there are plenty of people here who say "Hooray that Tim Cook won't let these people use Apple pay", who also said "How dare Oregonian bakers not make a cake for a gay wedding."

I'm not sure I want to live in a country where people use economics to force their morality on others (even when I agree with their morality), and be honest, that's what Apple is doing here. And I've seen people twist any view that they don't believe in into "hate speech."

Ok. Mashing Nazis and People not wanting to bake a cake is a huge stretch. Nothing can compare to Nazis/white supremacy/KKK.

Ever.

Just In case this train of though ever comes across your mind in the future.
 
I think this is type of news post that SHOULD NOT ALLOW ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENT.

Have you seen other sites? It turned into political feces fight where everyone is throwing poop at each other.

Seriously, just stop. Disable commenting. Turn it on in a year or so.


i think we just created a new war here. Anti-Commenters vs Comment-supremacists
 
Nice going Tim!

Why ?
As repugnant as I find the alt/extreme right I disagree.

In the USA there is also a law suit going on where by a Baking firm refused to make a wedding cake for a Gay couple because it went against their religious beliefs.

They're a private business, surely they can do what they like too ?, surely they can choose who they will do business with ?, if you don't like it you can always go elsewhere.

See, if you advocate for discrimination against one group, you are advocating for discrimination against all groups, be they LGBT, Muslim, Baptist, Nazi, Communist, Republican, Democrat, Jewish, Women or any other group you care to define.

Who gets to decide whom you can discriminate against, the majority ?, if so are you now just advocating the white supremacist view point ?

This is a dangerous start down a path that will only bring grief.

And I am sure "Tim" would feel offended if he was discriminated against because he is gay.
 
Why say what these racist sites are? Doesn't more clicks generally mean, more ad revenue?

Just seems to me like you wouldn't want people flocking to these sites, even just to see what the fuss is about, if you wanted to hurt said sites.

Good work, Apple. Even if you lose sales from racists, you're on the right side of this. I do believe this has more to do with PR than "backbone", unfortunately. They allowed sales via Apple Pay until now.

Can I use Apple Pay to buy BLM merchandise?

BLM is a hate group? Who are they bigoted towards?
 
Exactly. Anitfa is the only group at fault here. They have caused so much property destruction over the last year that it blows my mind. They were also "hired" to pretend to be "nazis" at this last event. It's a sick joke. Just consider their name: ANTI First Amendment.
Is this the point where you tell all the SHEEPLE to wake up?
 
BLM is a hate group? Who are they bigoted towards?
That's what you want to quote? Lol. Im not going to explain to you how prioritizing the rights of 1 race over any other is just as racist as a tshirt that says white pride or whatever.

You're trying to start an argument over me posing a question, that you didn't answer, rather deflected.

Maybe you can tell me how BLM is good for moving past racial barriers for blacks, whites, or any other race.
 
Why ?
As repugnant as I find the alt/extreme right I disagree.

In the USA there is also a law suit going on where by a Baking firm refused to make a wedding cake for a Gay couple because it went against their religious beliefs.

They're a private business, surely they can do what they like too ?, surely they can choose who they will do business with ?, if you don't like it you can always go elsewhere.

See, if you advocate for discrimination against one group, you are advocating for discrimination against all groups, be they LGBT, Muslim, Baptist, Nazi, Communist, Republican, Democrat, Jewish, Women or any other group you care to define.

Who gets to decide whom you can discriminate against, the majority ?, if so are you now just advocating the white supremacist view point ?

This is a dangerous start down a path that will only bring grief.

And I am sure "Tim" would feel offended if he was discriminated against because he is gay.

Yikesss. Didn't know so many people support hate groups.
 
Ok. Mashing Nazis and People not wanting to bake a cake is a huge stretch. Nothing can compare to Nazis/white supremacy/KKK.

Ever.

Just In case this train of though ever comes across your mind in the future.

No, the principle is exactly the same, discrimination.

There is no "stretch". Either discrimination is OK or its not. Its like pregnancy, you either are or you are not.
There is no "good" or "bad" discrimination, its just wrong, and unfortunately that means there are some people who are repugnant (extreme right in this case) are entitled not to be discriminated against.
 
What is a white supremacist? What is a Nazi sempathizer? Just want some definitions. I hear these words being thrown around but might not be up to speed. If I did not mind the statue staying in place, what does that make me?
 
How amazing would it be if the comments section for a PRSI article didn't immediately turn into a dumpster fire?
It would be a miracle.

Which would then have to be attributed to an intervening deity.

Then there'd be arguments about which deity[1].

And then we'd be right back where we started.


[1] Except among atheists and agnostics, where it would be attributed to chance, a position that would be no less disputed, so again back where we started.
 
That's what you want to quote? Lol. Im not going to explain to you how prioritizing the rights of 1 race over any other is just as racist as a tshirt that says white pride or whatever.

You're trying to start an argument over me posing a question, that you didn't answer, rather deflected.

Maybe you can tell me how BLM is good for moving past racial barriers for blacks, whites, or any other race.

So the actual problem is that you don't understand what BLM is...
 
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