Apple Pulls iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 Models From Sale in Germany Amid Legal Battle With Qualcomm

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  1. YaBe macrumors 6502


    Oct 5, 2017
    Just as rounded edges were for Apple Vs Samsung, but that did not stop Apple.... why should it (being silly) stop Qualcomm?

    Also If you could make money out of something silly, would you lose said money just for that reason? What would you tell to your investors?

    "Sorry guys we could have made a tons of money , but I thought it was silly...."
  2. tkermit macrumors 68040


    Feb 20, 2004
    I was about to say. The lineup does look like it's been simplified a lot in the After picture... only thing missing is a smaller/less expensive version of the X.
  3. hlfway2anywhere macrumors 65816

    Jul 15, 2006
    You are revising history. I worked in Apple retail during the jobs era and specifically remember the iPhone 3G remained the entry level iPhone when the 3GS came out, and then the 3GS became entry level model when the iPhone 4 came out. They were not discontinued.
  4. The Don Onez macrumors member

    Nov 7, 2017
    Huntsville, AL
    Ok I can sorta agree with that. Some patents cant be stilly, but if these patents are "silly" then why are they so important? How can wifi and cellular connectivity patents be "silly".
  5. YaBe macrumors 6502


    Oct 5, 2017
    To be fair keeping the 7 would be more like keeping the 3g model while selling the 4 as current as the 7 is 2 gen behind not one as in the Jobs era.
  6. orbital~debris macrumors 6502a


    Mar 3, 2004
    England, UK, Europe
    Haha, agreed - I almost added that to my post.

    An iPhone mini/nano (or just plain ‘iPhone’) in the form of a miniaturised Xr/Xs would certainly round out the lineup in a pleasing way!
  7. MikeSmoke macrumors regular

    Mar 26, 2010
    Maryland USA
    Qualcomm must be very confident in their case with putting up the bond.
  8. Enclavean macrumors regular


    Jun 14, 2018
    What do you use to make these and why arent you doing paid work instead
  9. pete2106 Suspended


    Dec 7, 2012
    MacRumors is doomed
  10. KPandian1 macrumors 65816

    Oct 22, 2013
    So are other premium smartphones:rolleyes:!

    Very passionate about this, aren't you;).
  11. Baymowe335 macrumors 68040

    Oct 6, 2017
    Apple just set a record for revenue in Germany.
  12. tridley68 macrumors 6502a


    Aug 28, 2014
    I guess it depends on how much the company is willing to pay the judge to sway the judges decision.
  13. racerhomie macrumors regular


    Aug 14, 2015
    All companies die. This is nothing new.
  14. timber macrumors 6502

    Aug 30, 2006
    Why should EU users be asked to pay an extra like that when in addiction to higher hardware prices the service level is always lower than in the USA?

    In addiction to paying more in reality the perception is even worse than that. VAT prices are included in advertised prices in the EU.
    Nobody knows that the XR costs 713 + VAT or whatever. What everybody knows is that Apple wants 850 euros for a phone that is supposed to be the cheapest. And that is just mind boggling. The question is not only if you can afford but really if you can live and justify that to yourself. For example everybody can afford paying 500€ in a Michelin star restaurant. How many people do that?
  15. YaBe macrumors 6502


    Oct 5, 2017
    We pay more because of local taxes, not because of Apple....or any other company for that matter.
  16. timber macrumors 6502

    Aug 30, 2006
    In Apple's case we pay more because of extra VAT and because Apple charges more. Two reasons not one.
  17. YaBe, Jan 4, 2019
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2019

    YaBe macrumors 6502


    Oct 5, 2017
    I am not really sure I mean euro dollar fluctuation aside it is pretty much even.
    iPhone XS is $ 999 + taxes
    iPhone XS in Italy is € 1.189 - 22 % Iva = €974.59

    So on a 1:1 basis it 999 vs 974
    Now of course the dollar plays a role in the equation too, so we end up paying "more" but not for the Apple tax, rather for the Dollar / Euro fluctuation.

    974 euros would be 1105,94 dollars (1,14 right now the exchange), the 105 $ difference comes from currency exchange (we dont' really do pay 105 $ more because we buy in euro not dollars).
  18. LewisChapman macrumors 6502a


    Jan 10, 2015
    That's now the tidiest lineup we've seen in years!
  19. nexusrule macrumors 6502

    Aug 11, 2012
  20. timber macrumors 6502

    Aug 30, 2006
    The correct price would be 1075 Euros (or 1079 in Apple speak, nice number ending in nine with a few extra euros to compensate for possible currency fluctuations). That is 1000 USD in Euro (881 Euro) plus 22% VAT.

    Of course the Italian tax authorities are also happy because they are getting 22% on those 93 euros Apple is overcharging you (974 vs 881). A nice 20 euros to thank Tim Cook for.
  21. corky5678 macrumors member


    Dec 28, 2014
    Bass Lake, CA
  22. Bornee35 macrumors 6502


    May 6, 2013
    Maybe this is all just a secret backroom deal between Qualcomm and Apple to drive up sales for the new models, everyone break out your tin foil hats, we're going down the rabbit hole.
  23. Jsameds macrumors 68040

    Apr 22, 2008
    Doom is Doomed

  24. Kaibelf macrumors 68020


    Apr 29, 2009
    Silicon Valley, CA
    Welcome to commerce. There has always been cheap & luxury, and certain things more expensive than the others. If someone wants to sell something for a certain amount and the buyer agrees to that price, then so be it. It's not "mind boggling." If anything, the odd thing is how passionate people get about how others spend their own money. If it's too expensive for you to justify, then don't buy it, and if someone else can justify it, that's their business.

    People on these boards constantly pull out their hair in outrage over Apple's prices as if they are somehow compelled to buy the products or MUST have this year's latest model. It's just plain bizarre, as if their current devices somehow vanish or they can't leave the house without a new model, or somehow they are entitled to things at a price they want even if the rest of the world is willing to pay more.
  25. itsmilo macrumors 68020


    Sep 15, 2016
    Before Tim Crook Apple would simply switch out the $ with a € sign. Nowadays it’s like over 100€ on TOP

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