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Apple Pulls Older Software From 'Purchased' Tab in Mac App Store

Bummer. I was planning for the first time to do a fresh install of El Capitan and then reinstall all my MAS and non-MAS apps. Looks like I won't be able to do that now Aperture is unavailable, and I *need* Aperture.


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Okay, I've read the last few posts. Aperture and older iterations of OS X are now back in my Purchases tab of MAS. Some "glitch" that turned out to be!
 
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Mainyehc said:
I am so pissed at Apple right now that I personally wrote the biggest, long-a** e-mail to Tim Cook himself. Here it is quoted in its full glory, for your reading pleasure:
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Mate, That is waaaaaaaaay too long. Unfortunately there's no pleasure involved in trying to slog through it.
I get that you're annoyed, and I was interested in seeing what you had to say, but it's just lost in a sea of meaningless background information.

As it turns out, it seems it was error.

I'd say you've just been blocked on Tim's email list!
 
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smoking monkey said:
Mate, That is waaaaaaaaay too long. Unfortunately there's no pleasure involved in trying to slog through it.
I get that you're annoyed, and I was interested in seeing what you had to say, but it's just lost in a sea of meaningless background information.

As it turns out, it seems it was error.

I'd say you've just been blocked on Tim's email list!
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Blocked I may have been, but… You do get my point on trust, right? The fact there are no reported issues doesn't bode well, as unavailable apps should definitely count as a service disturbance. Besides, it's not like I insulted Apple or Tim in any way, I only pointed out that we as users *have* some trust issues with Apple when it comes to their bleeding-edge and planned obsolescence culture.

Apple also has some serious communication impairments, and that has always been my beef with them. And I'm betting I'm not alone on that. Though I do have to recognize that Tim's Apple is a bit better on that regard, they still seem to venerate secrecy as a doctrine, instead of using it strategically.

But yep, I concur. I could have surmised a bit, yes, but got a bit carried away. :rolleyes:
 
mrkramer said:
I'm assuming there is DRM on the apps, if apple in the future decides to stop supporting old apps could that keep us from using our old software even if we archive it ourselves?
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No, these applications don't have any sort of mechanism that Apple can use to "expire" them.
 
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chrfr said:
No, these applications don't have any sort of mechanism that Apple can use to "expire" them.
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I'm not sure about Aperture, but I think the only thing the MAS (and the iOS App Store, I'm guessing) does is associate the app with your Apple ID. They could probably “expire” them by removing the developer's certificate on security grounds, but I'm willing to bet that Apple wouldn't revoke its own, right? :p

As for OS X, I am pretty sure the installer apps are just wrappers. That's what DiskMaker X was created for, to extract the actual, bootable DMGs from within said wrapper and clone them to an external volume.
 
Bending Pixels said:
There's been plenty of warning that iPhoto and Aperture are at their End of Days. There comes a point to where it's time to move on.
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When you pay money for the software, it should be available. Your comment "move on" sums up the "new" philosophy being implemented at Apple that isn't being broadcast to the people who make them their money. Apple is becoming a company that directly reflects the mindset of its leaders. Spreadsheet junkies who have little in the way of imagination or loyalty. Bottom line is where it's at with Apple. It shows in the product lineup and lack of ingenuity lately. If I pay for software, I would expect access to it.
 
Topperdog1973 said:
When you pay money for the software, it should be available. Your comment "move on" sums up the "new" philosophy being implemented at Apple that isn't being broadcast to the people who make them their money. Apple is becoming a company that directly reflects the mindset of its leaders. Spreadsheet junkies who have little in the way of imagination or loyalty. Bottom line is where it's at with Apple. It shows in the product lineup and lack of ingenuity lately. If I pay for software, I would expect access to it.
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Well, that doesn't fit well with the happy-feely mantra of “let's open source all truly mankind-changing technologies” like Health Kit, right? Is Apple suffering a massive fit of corporate schizophrenia?
 
Apple does not need to concern itself with competition, it is its own worst enemy - I barely recognize it anymore. I am really not surprised at anything they do at this point. Almost every decision that the Federal Government and Corporations make these days defies all logic, but they both are intent upon "forcing" submission rather than offering any advancing solutions. Expandable MacPro in favor of a soldered-in trash can with cables strung all over the desktop, changing basic Finder productivity key-commands for absolutely no reason except to confuse and force re-learning, iPad innovation - make it smaller - make it bigger, and don't get me started on the iWatch - bad enough that nobody wears watches anymore, but one you have to recharge every night... seriously!!!
 
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This is a great lesson to all the people about the value of local storage (how hard is it to keep a usb installer for the os you claim you need so desperately for your apps to work?). Also it's pretty obvious that apples business model is one of forced obsolescence so don't be mad at apple be mad at yourself, because it's a well known fact. If anyone wants to stop giving apple money the osx86 community is ready for you.
 
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If anyone wants to stop giving apple money the osx86 community is ready for you.
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Last time I checked in, someone got OS X running on a surface pro, and showed it off but wouldn't tell anyone else how to do it. Perhaps I'll look into it again and see if they've made progress.
 
They should create DRM free software. Download from App Store, take the install file with you any where. Just do it like it was in 1997 with license keys, it worked well and no one complained.
 
MacBH928 said:
They should create DRM free software. Download from App Store, take the install file with you any where. Just do it like it was in 1997 with license keys, it worked well and no one complained.
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AFAIK there's no DRM on these things. At least I haven't had any issues with ripping OS install images out of their downloads and loading them onto flash drives and DVDs.
 
sudo1996 said:
AFAIK there's no DRM on these things. At least I haven't had any issues with ripping OS install images out of their downloads and loading them onto flash drives and DVDs.
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Not sure about the OS, but the regular software you don't even get an install file You just click purchase. It downloads and installs everything for you like on the iPhone
 
MacBH928 said:
Not sure about the OS, but the regular software you don't even get an install file You just click purchase. It downloads and installs everything for you like on the iPhone
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Yes, that's true. But, if I remember correctly, you can just copy the application over to another computer. It might be missing installation files, and you could hunt down and copy those too. That's a nuisance, and I'd prefer an installer image, but I don't think they have any DRM in place to deliberately prevent you from doing that. I might be wrong.
 
FYI: The removed software is back again... Both in hidden and purchased.

Maybe it was a glitch or maybe they had a change of mind. Either or, it's good to see it back. Especially when we have paid for access to it.
 
Killerbob said:
Seems we are ALL a bunch of idiots...

You can easily download most of the apps discussed here, simply by unhiding the purchases in the App Store; https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202320

It worked for me, and now I have access to Aperture, Mavericks, and Lion, just like before:)
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I can confirm my purchases are back this morning. I figured it was just some kind of glitch with the app store from the beginning but it never hurts to be sure :)
 
tywebb13 said:
https://developer.apple.com/downloads/
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Oops sorry, I misread your original posting. Yes, 10.5 and 10.6 (client and server) are clearly there.

I wish Apple would generally post the DMGs for OS X releases (10.7-10.9) on the developer site. After all, they still post every point update there (combo AND delta).

Anyway, all is good and I'll make sure to archive the DMGs for 10.8 and 10.9 now...
 
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Some old apps are still missing... Apple's apps are back again, but some third party old apps have gone forever :(

And no, they are not hidden, I've checked it.
 
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mdlooker said:
Does it hurt anything to leave all of the older software up? Is it a move to persuade old mac owners to upgrade to a newer model? Seems like a passive aggressive move to bring in more revenue.
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Apple doesn't have enough money to host them any longer.... :rolleyes:
 
Populus said:
Some old apps are still missing... Apple's apps are back again, but some third party old apps have gone forever :(

And no, they are not hidden, I've checked it.
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It's the developer's prerogative to either leave an application available for redownload after it's no longer available for sale, or to remove it completely.
 
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