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Apple Pulls Popular Third-Party YouTube App 'ProTube' From the App Store
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it's disgusting that YouTube charges $12 a month for BACKGROUND playback. Just disgusting.
The YouTube API isn't public, it's locked behind a developer key that the developer of ProTube got by signing an agreement specifically stating that he would not use it to develop the functionality that he has developed.
As much as this sucks, it sounds like he directly violated their ToS, so he has no argument against them.
Funny thing is Safari gave you some of those features for a while since it played YouTube in QuickTime instead of the actual YouTube player, so you could play in the background and not have ads, but somehow this no longer works. I guess Google also complained to Apple.
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Funny thing is Safari gave you some of those features for a while since it played YouTube in QuickTime instead of the actual YouTube player, so you could play in the background and not have ads, but somehow this no longer works. I guess Google also complained to Apple.
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There are reasons to complain about YouTube, but I haven't seen any site that's better. They all have some sketchy proprietary player, just like YouTube's but worse, and sometimes Flash-based. And YouTube has everything.
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I'd say they have every right to if it weren't for the fact that most music on YouTube is illegal.
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Haha, thanks for being honest. Most people aren't. It does suck. I'm still irritated that I can't have PIP yet can leave it open taking up the entire edge of my iPad display. I wonder if it has to do with advertiser engagement. I bet it definitely does with audio only as advertisers would be upset if their ads were only being listened to. If YT changed the model to allow audio ads the CPM is probably a lot lower.
But by this same logic, if a developer sold a web browser or a device that includes a web browser, Google could demand it be blocked. Should Apple have to remove Safari from devices because it can be used to access YouTube content?
I have iCloud but have never seen it store apps there except within iOS device backups that aren't accessible that I'm aware of except to restore a device completely through iTunes. I've already hunted here among my backups and the most recent iPhone apps backup folder I have is from 2015. Maybe you know more about accessing backups of purchased apps that have been removed from the App Store? That would be great if there's a trick, thanks.
When Google and Apple cooperate together, the duopoly is capable of great evil.
What a load of crap; Apple is supposed to just sit there and accept being sued? If you want to know the true villain it is Google - something that was quite clear when Google refused to provide a YouTube app for Windows 10 Mobile even though Microsoft offered to pay for the cost of porting and maintenance.
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A YouTube-to-MP3 converter website was just shut down as well https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.the...h/2017/9/4/16252348/youtube-mp3-org-shut-down
Google is clearly on a mission at the moment.
Google is clearly on a mission at the moment.
That's not why. It's because Google's API comes with terms of service that the developer clearly violated. In other cases, you can charge for an app that uses some website's API.
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I never had the app anyway. I still don't get what the point of it is when I can just play in Safari. It used to even be counterproductive because it would prevent background playback, but now Safari doesn't do it either.
PiPTube, which is minimalistic and has one feature - Picture in Picture, but I try to use whenever I can, it also uses native player, has volume control. Full MacStories review of the app.
interesting thing is that i still see a lot of 3rd party Youtube apps available , such as this one https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/musi-unlimited-music-for-youtube/id591560124?mt=8
Still trying to find the use case for background video playback. Hated it on Apple's Podcast app - it's a video podcast I want to SEE it not listen to it. And if you want that for music playback, Google Play Music is $10/mo and gives you background playback too. I get PiP - that makes sense but background playback is kind of a niche.
You can ignore this ignorant poster's comment above.
If you have already purchased ProTube, it will remain on your device(s).
The app will no longer receive software updates however (unless it returns to the App Store in the future), which means that, at some point, it might be broken by an iOS update.
However, before that happens, it will likely be broken somehow by Google via a change to the Youtube services.
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a) If it is a violation of Google's API, then apparently not all APIs include those terms. I don't see Twitter suing the developers of all those 3rd party Twitter apps on the App Store.
b) Playback in Safari is fine, if you don't care about background playback and PIP (picture in picture) features. But many, many users do care about those things.
How is this different than Apple pulling apps from its store. Hasn’t apple pulled apps that use work like apps Apple offers.
Whilst I agree with others that YouTube were within their rights to have the app removed, I also think that they should implement some of the features of that app in their own YouTube Red service so that people don't feel the need to go elsewhere, that and launch YouTube Red worldwide so that everyone is given the opportunity to pay for the features they don't have third party apps to give away for free or a one off cost.
If they aren't willing to give their paying customers features that third party apps are offering then their service isn't worth it. It's already way too overpriced compared to popular streaming sites like Netflix.
I'm not a fan of YouTube personally and I find it hypocritical they bully third party developers but don't impose strict controls on copyrighted films and music on their own site which is a major source of traffic. Just films alone there are probably thousands of copyrighted works available from various countries and genres with no way to flag them unless you yourself are the copyright holder. It's like a 'legal' hub of piracy.
If they aren't willing to give their paying customers features that third party apps are offering then their service isn't worth it. It's already way too overpriced compared to popular streaming sites like Netflix.
I'm not a fan of YouTube personally and I find it hypocritical they bully third party developers but don't impose strict controls on copyrighted films and music on their own site which is a major source of traffic. Just films alone there are probably thousands of copyrighted works available from various countries and genres with no way to flag them unless you yourself are the copyright holder. It's like a 'legal' hub of piracy.
Didn't realise it was a paid app. Probably still be available for those that have already purchased.
It violates the developer agreement which is associated with the APis which the entire app is built around. There is nothing that the EU or anybody else can do about that.
Isn't analogous to web browsers. Most web browsers are free to install and aren't entirely built around APIs which prohibit the resale of the content they are calling.
To give a specific comparable scenario. Imagine I wrote an iOS app which invokes Musickit which allows access to the entire Apple Music library, added functionality that Apple doesn't provide and tried to sell it on the app store with a private subscription which undercut Apples pricing.
Would you think that was ok? Do you think Apple would allow that? Do you think all of the people in this thread who are outraged by google "bullying" developers would think it was ok for me do that? Of course they wouldn't, they would be cheering Apple on as the app got pulled from the App Store.
As for Google not wanting this competing with Youtube Red I'm not sure how that is any different that Apple banning the open source version of F.lux just before the introduced Night Shift.
Incredibly sad to see ProTube go. It was my favorite YouTube app and I recommended it heartily to everyone I met.
Unfortunately, it's only a matter of time until ProTube quits working even for people who were lucky enough to purchase it before it vanished. Google just needs to update their API (which they've done quite frequently) and the whole app will break forever. So it's only a matter of time until it's truly gone...
Therefore, I needed a replacement that does everything that I've been using the ProTube app for. So I've spent all day experimenting and creating a bunch of brand-new, never-before-seen techniques for the normal iOS Safari and YouTube.com that finally gives us Picture-in-Picture videos, background playback (via either PiP or audio-only), real fullscreen playback, 1080p, AirPlay, sleep timer, and so on! No special apps required!
And I am giving it all away for free (unless you feel like donating, in which case you're totally awesome):
https://stevejobzniak.github.io/ios_safari_youtube.html
Have fun, everyone!
Unfortunately, it's only a matter of time until ProTube quits working even for people who were lucky enough to purchase it before it vanished. Google just needs to update their API (which they've done quite frequently) and the whole app will break forever. So it's only a matter of time until it's truly gone...
Therefore, I needed a replacement that does everything that I've been using the ProTube app for. So I've spent all day experimenting and creating a bunch of brand-new, never-before-seen techniques for the normal iOS Safari and YouTube.com that finally gives us Picture-in-Picture videos, background playback (via either PiP or audio-only), real fullscreen playback, 1080p, AirPlay, sleep timer, and so on! No special apps required!
And I am giving it all away for free (unless you feel like donating, in which case you're totally awesome):
https://stevejobzniak.github.io/ios_safari_youtube.html
Have fun, everyone!
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