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I welcome our newest addition to PRSI. You will fit right in here.

What is a PRSI? Also, I heard additives are bad. Can I be organic instead? I'm not stewing in my own body odor for fun. I smell like a Chinaman.

Sorry, this is a political spiritual social forum - I meant Chinacis.
 
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What is a PRSI? Also, I heard additives are bad. Can I be organic instead? I'm not stewing in my own body odor for fun. I smell like a Chinaman.

Sorry, this is a political spiritual social forum - I meant Chinacis.

Maybe you can find someone on craigslist to help you out with those questions, just make sure you don't take your laptop if you have to meet up with them.
 
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Maybe you can find someone on craigslist to help you out with those questions, just make sure you don't take your laptop if you have to meet up with them.

I'm not scared of Craig. And I don't appreciate the moderators allowing this discussion to veer from the topic of lowering SAT scores for the ethically privileged. If we don't stop them soon, Toyota will come over and use their smartness to create a depression in their own country with no bail outs. And then what will we do?

And stop with the logic - Poetry Renaissance Science and Intellectualism rue the day. That's the PRSI yes? Cuz if you just take it as a bad-word in all-caps, then I'm offended.

No more tangents please.
 
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You can't lick that PRSI!

I don't know why this created its own post - was editing a mistake, only to make another mistake - my apologies?

I'm confuzzled. I just know that Apple is good and so is America and something about pie, which takes us right back to the PRSI.

My head hurts. Not that one. I'm gonna quit now.

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“You know…this used to be a hell of a good country.”
 
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You can't lick that PRSI!

I don't know why this created its own post - my apologies?

I'm confuzzled. I just know that Apple is good and so is America and something about pie, which takes us right back to the PRSI. My head hurts.

I'm gonna quit now.
I prefer cake, pie wise it needs to be a Boston cream pie :D
 
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What they don't have chicken feet pie in China?
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“Chicken feet pie? I dunno - do they? Do they, punk? No, that's not my line... "

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“I like chicken feet pie. It's tasty.

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“I'll have to try it - next time I'm in China.”

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“You make me want to be a better man.”

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“You complete me. "

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“Now you're just being anti-post-something-cis.”


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“Don't say it. "

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“Say what?”

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“What do you think you are, crazy or something? Well, you’re not! You’re not!”

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“Did he post six quotes or only five?”



 
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They just work really hard for us and can actually SURVIVE on food we only order out like once every couple of weeks, and even it's pretty cheap, just like all of them who aren't as good as us.

While I get the point of your humour, the food within China is nothing like "Chinese food" you get in other places. I doubt anyone could actually survive on that.
 
Tim respect privacy....lol

Apple in China is just complying to their rules.. Thank goodness its not everywhere.

"Recently the government also threatened to block access to the Telegram encrypted messaging platform unless the company that runs the app provides more information about itself."

Everyone would see this as privacy, but really. it you don't explain yourself, doesn't that conclude u as hiding something, therefore you are up to no good ? However, without proof, you really don't have a say.
 
Apple in China is just complying to their rules.. Thank goodness its not everywhere.

"Recently the government also threatened to block access to the Telegram encrypted messaging platform unless the company that runs the app provides more information about itself."

Everyone would see this as privacy, but really. it you don't explain yourself, doesn't that conclude u as hiding something, therefore you are up to no good ? However, without proof, you really don't have a say.
Hiding? Nah. I don't want my isp to spy everything i do.
 
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“You can't handle the merge!”

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“Yeah... it does seem a bit heavy-handed around here?”
 
I am sorry that you dont see them both as being equally wrong.
They are both wrong, but equally? Definitely not. Picture a woman kicking and screaming as doctors force her down and pull the life from her womb, and then compare that with a pregnant woman, who wants to get an abortion, but is deeply saddened by someone who tells her she can't. There is no comparison, unless you're some kind of monster.
 
They are both wrong, but equally? Definitely not. Picture a woman kicking and screaming as doctors force her down and pull the life from her womb, and then compare that with a pregnant woman, who wants to get an abortion, but is deeply saddened by someone who tells her she can't. There is no comparison, unless you're some kind of monster.

Yeah its so trivial for the girls involved the they are willing to choose illegal abortions with high risks of complications and potentially death or they even suicide. And yeah, I knew someone who chose suicide.
 
The world needs cheap labor - China supplies it ......

You are a few years late. The average salary for an unskilled worker in the electronics industry in southern China is at least RMB 4500 with free food and housing. That is about US$650, no tax or other deductions are paid. Working hours are fixed by labor laws. Workers are free to go.

China is absolutely not cheap nowadays. Their advantage of the infrastructure, not the labor.
 
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Yeah its so trivial for the girls involved the they are willing to choose illegal abortions with high risks of complications and potentially death or they even suicide. And yeah, I knew someone who chose suicide.
Tragic, but you're missing the keyword here: "Chose". The girls in China, who are humans too by the way, do not have a choice. It's a sort of rape, you might say, since it's forced upon them.
 
No, you don't understand. There are two kinds of contracts: verbal and express. Express means there is written word and you "sign" to show you agree with those words in the document. There is zero difference between physically signing an agreement that states a company can store user data and one that is electronically signed. ZERO.

A contracts is an agreement by two more parties. All parties must agree to the writing (among other elements) for it to be valid. In your instance it's up to the user to understand what he or she is agreeing to before they give consent be it with pen and hand or keyboard and fingers.

So what you are talking about is sheer gobbledygook. It makes no sense from either a public policy perspective, a legal perspective, or an efficiency perspective.
Yes, you are totally right in saying that we are not understanding each other. You insist in talking about legal validity and efficiency, while I'm focusing in privacy. Of course both electronic and paper-ink contracts have the same legal validity!! That's not the point. The point is that the world would be much better if it was so extremely hard, inconvenient, and difficult for a company to get all the paper documents needed for storing your private data, that they would desist in doing so. That's my only point. If it wasn't allowed by Law that a button click in a webpage was enough for storing the user data in the company servers, most companies would desist in storing your data, and so alternative mechanisms would be used instead (such as storing all your data in your computer and making companies read it from your disk on a transaction-by-transaction basis).

I mean, you go to Amazon for example, try to buy something, and then a dialog would tell you "Amazon wants to read your shopping data, do you want to grant them permission for this transaction only?". If you accept, they would have permission for reading you data only -and only for that transaction- (but not storing it nor reselling it to third-parties).

As I said, the world would be much better that way: If very annoying paper-ink contracts were required for user data storage and reselling, no company would store where you parked your car, nor your GPS tracking data from your last holiday, nor your GPS-marked photos, nor your web purchases, nor your files, nor nothing.
 
Yes, you are totally right in saying that we are not understanding each other. You insist in talking about legal validity and efficiency, while I'm focusing in privacy. Of course both electronic and paper-ink contracts have the same legal validity!! That's not the point. The point is that the world would be much better if it was so extremely hard, inconvenient, and difficult for a company to get all the paper documents needed for storing your private data, that they would desist in doing so.

So basically your point is let's inconvenience consumers, burden businesses, make such services more expensive, and contribute more paper waste to the environment. Got it. Yes, your idea will absolutely do that.

What it won't do:

It won't change the language in these agreements one bit or how companies use personal data.
It won't change the fact most consumers do not read or understand or make any effort to understand these agreements, regardless of form. Ultimately it IS up to the consumer to decide whether to use any given service. Companies cannot use personal data until the consumer consents. If they want the service they are going to agree either by computer or paper.

What you are talking about is something to be done legislatively -- for companies to be required to clearly state what personal data they use, how they use it in house, and whether they sell it to unaffiliated 3rd parties.
 
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