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Apple Pushes Back Against India's New Digital Market Regulations
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Yeesh. Let's try to make it so no company can have more than 0.01% of market share in any country in the entire world, and all software is free. The world will be full of butterflies and rainbows.
When countries apply rules to people and companies, is that expanding freedom or curtailing it? In what way?
Ok, back to my Blackberry. Remember them? Monopolies only last while they are good. No government regulation was required to cause their collapse. Whatever. Attack like the youth of today.
When countries apply rules to people and companies, is that expanding freedom or curtailing it? In what way?
Ok, back to my Blackberry. Remember them? Monopolies only last while they are good. No government regulation was required to cause their collapse. Whatever. Attack like the youth of today.
You are making unrealistic assumption. No one is trying to make no company have 0.01% market share.
In this case, it expanding freedom for users. I am all for torn up the walled garden.
Blackberry was never a monopolies. Back then, we have Nokia Symbian, BlackBerry OS, Windows Phone 8, WebOS.
What do we have now? iOS and Android. If a government to mandate third OS and mandate all developers to port apps, I am all for it.
A market where one company takes 80%-90% profit and have market power to dictate things to its favor is never a good thing.
When Apple applies their rules to people, is that expanding freedom or curtailing it?
If Apple doesn't like the rules, Apple can go build and develop their own country. Isn't that what people tell others who want to be able to sideload and do other things? "Don't like it, then go build and develop your own smartphone and app store, or buy an Android device."
What's good for the goose...
US is also protectionist country, look at all these trade restrictions and tariffs that US is applying.
And only US and its allies are not buying oils from Russia. Cheap oil is always good buy, for national securities and cheap gas for citizens.
Your definition of monopoly is curious. If you control 95% of the market share of phones, and don't allow any third party protocols, is that a monopoly? Apple has very little market share in the vast majority of the world.
And is it currently impossible for other companies to make phones? With an OS? If Apple controlled all phone networks and sold the phones I'd call that a monopoly, such as the old gas empire in the us where the entire line was controlled from product source to sales by a single company.
But I guess monopoly has a new meaning. Anyone that makes money with a good product that controls less than 20% of worldwide phones needs to be reduced. Is that what should happen?
Let's face it, people can buy any phone they want, but for some reason people just don't want to. I guess they like the better product.
Let companies sink or swim, and only try to control when they truly control the market they are in. If Apple would buy the majority of telecom service providers and then restrict them to only iphones, then I'd have an issue. Otherwise, no.
Lol. I don't see any rules Apple applied to me. They never said I can't buy a Samsung or BlackBerry.
P.s. India has a law that requires a company that wants to do business in country to manufacture (I believe it is 75%) a majority share of what is sold in country.
I want this law in the USA and in the EU. Just think how great it would be if companies had to build their products in the countries they sold them in. /s
P.s.s. I also remember a story from last year I think that said in the early phase of building the newer phones there 1 of every 2 phones was meeting Q/A standards. Basically doubling the cost of the phone and increasing the cost for the nations with stronger economies by adding “support” cost for others nations that don’t wanna take the steps to make their economies better.
I want this law in the USA and in the EU. Just think how great it would be if companies had to build their products in the countries they sold them in. /s
P.s.s. I also remember a story from last year I think that said in the early phase of building the newer phones there 1 of every 2 phones was meeting Q/A standards. Basically doubling the cost of the phone and increasing the cost for the nations with stronger economies by adding “support” cost for others nations that don’t wanna take the steps to make their economies better.
Users have choice, buy Android phone and side load apps.
what next, i want to run windows on my iPad, Apple should work with Microsoft to make sure iPad can run Microsoft Windows on iPad ?
Android phones have much larger market share than iPhones, but some how Apple is monopoly ?
interoperability
what exactly you mean ?
app developers have freedom to release apps in any app store they choose.
What's App works on Android and iPhone.
What next Apple should work with Microsoft so that people can install Windows on iPad ?
India is a huge market. Even if they only have a small part of it, that’s still as large as the entire EU market. Definitely not easy for Apple to pull out of it.
A PC can run Windows, Linux and MacOS (if you know how). It is not a bad idea to force Apple allow alternative OS on their iPad or Mac.
Apple doesn’t have to facility that, but Apple need to stop put artificial barriers on their platform.
Imagine if EU forced Apple to work with Linux community, Microsoft and Google to make sure that any of these operating systems should work on Apple hardware ?
we get best of both worlds, best processor, best OS to choose from.
and by the way Apple should still cover warranty no matter which OS people choose and make sure that battery life is not degraded.
Let's go EU
we get best of both worlds, best processor, best OS to choose from.
and by the way Apple should still cover warranty no matter which OS people choose and make sure that battery life is not degraded.
Let's go EU
Yep, free market is crazy concept.
we want government to baby sit corporations, people, businesses.
More government intervention better,
bigger the government the better.
Look, regardless of market share there are basically only two companies controlling all the cellphones in the world: Apple and Google (since every phone that’s not an iphone uses Android regardless of who made it). There’s practically nothing else. How could that be good for the end users?
No he means for Apple to open up some of its apps that have historically been apple-exclusive such as imessage or facetime.
if people think that side loading apps will reduce price then they are naive, consumers won't benefit from this.
businesses will benefit from this.
in google play store people can pay for subscription using Spotify account bypassing google play store.
so if customers pay using Spotify account bypass google play store, would it be cheaper for consumers ?
businesses will benefit from this.
in google play store people can pay for subscription using Spotify account bypassing google play store.
so if customers pay using Spotify account bypass google play store, would it be cheaper for consumers ?
Good for India. Imagine if iPhones only worked with cases and other accessories from the Apple Store, that'd be ridiculous.
People complaining about government size or misguided focus - larger populations and markets require larger governments, just like a larger ship needs more crew. Moreover just like a ship's crew, a government is not monolithic and can address multiple issues at the same time.
People complaining about government size or misguided focus - larger populations and markets require larger governments, just like a larger ship needs more crew. Moreover just like a ship's crew, a government is not monolithic and can address multiple issues at the same time.
Imagine if EU forced Apple to work with Linux community, Microsoft and Google to make sure that any of these operating systems should work on Apple hardware ?
we get best of both worlds, best processor, best OS to choose from.
and by the way Apple should still cover warranty no matter which OS people choose and make sure that battery life is not degraded.
Let's go EU
And Apple had already started on this with boot camp on the macs, but took a step back when they switched to the M processors.
Sigh. Another Government who feels they have a right to treat companies as their personal atms's...
It certainly seems to be impossible. Except for Apple, practically every single other phone manufacturer in the world uses Google’s OS (Android). Nobody ever uses anything else anymore. Nobody creates their own OS.
Apple posted $33 BILLION in profit in Q1 2024, the market is working for them just fine.