Ah, veiled threats. Money talks.Apple, Google, and Amazon are urging India to reconsider its proposed Digital Competition Bill, citing concerns over increased user costs and potential reductions in investment (via Reuters).
Ah, veiled threats. Money talks.Apple, Google, and Amazon are urging India to reconsider its proposed Digital Competition Bill, citing concerns over increased user costs and potential reductions in investment (via Reuters).
Yes, which is why I support this move by the Indian government.But terribly bad for the end users.
Terrible for who ?, the USA ?Good for apple for pushing back. These regulations are just terrible.
Do it USA, please do it.Much easier for Apple to pull out of India since they've just started to enter the market 🤣
Expanding freedom for other, smaller businesses and consumers.When countries apply rules to people and companies, is that expanding freedom or curtailing it? In what way?
The availability or choice of operating system on hardware devices isn't regulated.Users have choice, buy Android phone and side load apps.
what next, i want to run windows on my iPad, Apple should work with Microsoft to make sure iPad can run Microsoft Windows on iPad ?
It's not as if anyone forced Apple to supply their products to the Indian (or EU) market.Even if they only have a small part of it, that’s still as large as the entire EU market. Definitely not easy for Apple to pull out of it.
Nope - it just levels the playing field for third parties. If anyone treats anything as an ATM, it's the big tech companies gatekeeping access to their platforms and charging quasi-taxes for it.Sigh. Another Government who feels they have a right to treat companies as their personal atms's...
India: finable for "up to 10% of annual global turnover"The proposed legislation includes provisions for penalties of up to 10 percent of a company's annual global turnover for violations.
Nothing against the people: But India as a country isn’t worth the investment in my opinion.
They like many countries have much bigger things to worry about than these rules. I don’t feel that the social aspect and the work ethic is there yet, but there government keeps trying to impose laws like the big kids. They need to do this in baby steps.
Yes. Yet, I feel that is probably massively leaning to the fact that they are ether the most populated or 2nd most populated country in the world.It’s just the 5th biggest economy.
It's not as if anyone forced Apple to supply their products to the Indian (or EU) market.
Don't like the rules - you're free to leave.
You’ll have to excuse them. Hyperbole is typically all the anti-regulatory side has to resort to.You are making unrealistic assumption. No one is trying to make no company have 0.01% market share.
(via Reut. The bill would also remove restrictions on sideloading apps.
The Indian government argues that the new law is necessary to address the growing market power of a few large digital companies that "wield immense control over the market." The proposed legislation includes provisions for penalties of up to 10 percent of a company's annual global turnover for violations.
Not in India. They will simply come down hard on Apple if it try these shenanigans in India.Apple is happy as long as you pay core tech fee.
Then companies or government should create a competition. I’m sure any operating system or hardware would be garbage, just like every other government service out there.Good. Time for the world to stop the bullying of these anticompetitive massive companies. Apple is among the worst when it comes to acting like a bully and stifling competition.
That's why my electricity is incredibly expensive and unreliable.Then companies or government should create a competition. I’m sure any operating system or hardware would be garbage, just like every other government service out there.
That's cute. Tell that to the EU Mafia who seemingly invent new "violations" every other week to fine Apple & others over. Apple is under zero obligation to do anything for anyone who aren't their customers. That whole RCS crap being a prime example. Had Apple a CEO with a spine they might have told the EU & Green Bubble whiners to pound sand.Nope - it just levels the playing field for third parties. If anyone treats anything as an ATM, it's the big tech companies gatekeeping access to their platforms and charging quasi-taxes for it.
Intellectually dishonest post. You don’t like an opinion so you sling an ad-hom. The dam is terrible regulations on so many levels. However we live in a world where bad laws exist.This is insultingly false and dishonest. I don't know where youre true interests really lie (apple stock, maybe?) but Apple's anti-competitiveness has destroyed a lot of actual progress as well as your judgement.
The consumers and developers.Terrible for who ?, the USA ?
Trump taught the world a great lesson "Make <your country> Great Again"
The political climate in the USA, the problems with funding for Ukraine, etc has also made the world aware that any reliance on the USA has become a liability and that economic diversification, greater self ability, better personal data controls, better consumer laws is the better option.
You know what would’ve prevented that? Apple acting reasonably. They refused for over a decade to make even slight concessions. Now government has to step in to protect their citizens. It’s their job.Yup, all the EU’s fault. Soon every country is going to try to regulate in their own specific way. 180 ways companies would have to please these governments. - Do you think you currently encounter bugs in your software? Just you wait until that software has to account for all these different regulations across the globe. Absolute insanity. 🤦♂️
Ok by that logic, India never said Apple couldn’t sell their phones in other countries. I guess there’s no problem!Lol. I don't see any rules Apple applied to me. They never said I can't buy a Samsung or BlackBerry.
So you understand why people keep using iPhones and developers keep developing for them even if they don’t like Apple’s rules. So the “if you don’t like it, leave” statements will stop now right?Correct, but when a market is large enough that it’s too costly to leave it they will think twice about exercising that freedom and the EU was the best example of that. Apple was free to leave the EU anytime they wanted to since they didn’t like the new rules of the game, but they didn’t leave the EU. Why? because it’s too large a market and it cost them more to leave than to budge. Thus, they instead budged and begrudgingly accepted the new rules.
So you understand why people keep using iPhones and developers keep developing for them even if they don’t like Apple’s rules. So the “if you don’t like it, leave” statements will stop now right?
I always did understand that. It was the person I was replying to who made the “if you don’t like it, leave” statement, not me, which is why I replied with the comment you quoted.