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Apple Questioned Again About a Mac Netbook
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I was thinking that if they don't make a tablet, I wouldn't mind a 10" MacBook Air derivative (perhaps a little thicker so it can accommodate a cheaper more conventinally packaged processor) with full OSX and a small SSD, 32 GB would be ample. If they could achieve it for a similar price to the White low end MacBook I would definitely get one. In fact I would be first in the queue!
But only if there is no tablet.
But only if there is no tablet.
I personally see the MBA developing into their own interpretation of a small ultraportable. The bezel around the MBAs screen and the falloff that consists almost entirely of aluminium ingot could very easily trim over half an inch on all side, without even doing anything, whilst still maintaining a full size keyboard and 13" screen.
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yummy.
You know, I worked for apple and in other retail before and just read that Apple marks stuff up 400% so in theory Apple could make a netbook mark it up 140%, gains market share and sell ilife seperate to make up margins and other apple software.
They alreay do make a $500 laptop, it's called a MacBook marked up quite a bit actually.
Way way way off. A $400 computer from Apple costs $1500. The thing is the Air. It's way over priced, doesn't sell nearly that much and has Apple in a corner as they could release an air with a iPod hard drive and sell for $500 and beautiful at that. Thing is, it would kill the air and MacBooks. Already apples product line and their margins has them in a corner. There is no way to do this without killing off the product line. Unless it's crippleware which defeats the purpose.
Maybe someone can explain how apple can do this without shooting themself in the foot. Problem is, their profit margins are to skewed for a netbook. Has nothing to do with quality as apple already makes machines low priced, just marked up to much.
He doesn't need to know the exact spelling of a PC threat - he's a Mac user. Pretty lame thing to rip on someone for.
Not in my lifetime or yours.
Best threadvive read by someone who truly gets the apple jobs business model. Sad thing is it's cheaper than ever to make laptops but do we see this savings. Of course not.
All this talk if apple and cheap is smoke and mirrors. It's really about how do "we" release a laptop at a reasonable price without killing the overpriced Air and MacBooks with no FireWire, meaning no pro video I'd audio fir you now that it has capable graphics.
It's things like this that I can't wait fir jobs to stop working fir apple. Anyone see the unibody keynote? Wow was he paranoid I'd what. Ok Steve, somebody might steal one.
Also all this talk of viruses? Really?? If you know someone who works fir apple retail ask them about the back of House macs, they all have virus protection
All this talk if apple and cheap is smoke and mirrors. It's really about how do "we" release a laptop at a reasonable price without killing the overpriced Air and MacBooks with no FireWire, meaning no pro video I'd audio fir you now that it has capable graphics.
It's things like this that I can't wait fir jobs to stop working fir apple. Anyone see the unibody keynote? Wow was he paranoid I'd what. Ok Steve, somebody might steal one.
Also all this talk of viruses? Really?? If you know someone who works fir apple retail ask them about the back of House macs, they all have virus protection
Where do you get this nonsense of a 400 percent markup from?
(Rhetorical question. I know where you get it from, but I want to give you a chance to read your source again, think about it, visit a thread where it has been discussed to end, think about it again, and realize _why_ it is nonsense. )
Best thread i have read by someone who truly gets the apple jobs business model. Sad thing is it's cheaper than ever to make laptops but do we see this savings. Of course not.
All this talk of apple and cheap is smoke and mirrors. It's really about how do "we" release a laptop at a reasonable price without killing the overpriced Air and MacBooks with no FireWire, meaning no pro video or audio for you now that it has capable graphics. I am one of the few that remembers when the MacBook benches 171% in opengl meaning you could run pro apps, but still no 3d games so what did apple do, they released a new gma the dropped to 70%, basically affecting just the pro user. How sleezy is that. Ever since then and being those who kept apple afloat fir years only to get brushed aside for iPhone users and apple one to one trainers clueless about shake Or final cut, but man can they teach a mean email attachment I'd show you how to make a calander, makes me fumed. One to one was bundled with pro care.
Everyone repeat after me, while jobs us around I will never get what I want without paying 499% markup
End rant
It's things like this that I can't wait fir jobs to stop working fir apple. Anyone see the unibody keynote? Wow was he paranoid I'd what. Ok Steve, somebody might steal one.
Also all this talk of viruses? Really?? If you know someone who works fir apple retail ask them about the back of House macs, they all have virus protection
All this talk of apple and cheap is smoke and mirrors. It's really about how do "we" release a laptop at a reasonable price without killing the overpriced Air and MacBooks with no FireWire, meaning no pro video or audio for you now that it has capable graphics. I am one of the few that remembers when the MacBook benches 171% in opengl meaning you could run pro apps, but still no 3d games so what did apple do, they released a new gma the dropped to 70%, basically affecting just the pro user. How sleezy is that. Ever since then and being those who kept apple afloat fir years only to get brushed aside for iPhone users and apple one to one trainers clueless about shake Or final cut, but man can they teach a mean email attachment I'd show you how to make a calander, makes me fumed. One to one was bundled with pro care.
Everyone repeat after me, while jobs us around I will never get what I want without paying 499% markup
End rant
It's things like this that I can't wait fir jobs to stop working fir apple. Anyone see the unibody keynote? Wow was he paranoid I'd what. Ok Steve, somebody might steal one.
Also all this talk of viruses? Really?? If you know someone who works fir apple retail ask them about the back of House macs, they all have virus protection
How many posts does it take for people to come to grips with the fact Apple is not going to market an inexpensive laptop anytime soon?
PC makers need netbooks right now to prop up lagging sales. Apple has the iPod and iPhone as a financial backstop. Plus, the obvious... Apple is not Dell, HP, or some other "me too" company. They never have been.
I would expect Apple to expand and enhance the MBA line b/c that is where the lion's share of computer sales are heading, but Apple is going to keep prices as close to four figures as possible. There is nothing in Apple's words or recent actions to indication anything else.
PC makers need netbooks right now to prop up lagging sales. Apple has the iPod and iPhone as a financial backstop. Plus, the obvious... Apple is not Dell, HP, or some other "me too" company. They never have been.
I would expect Apple to expand and enhance the MBA line b/c that is where the lion's share of computer sales are heading, but Apple is going to keep prices as close to four figures as possible. There is nothing in Apple's words or recent actions to indication anything else.
Clearly you've never used a $500 PC laptop before. It's nowhere near as refined as even the old plastic MBs and certainly not the unibody, and they are usually a lot heavier too.
Who says it will be a 'netbook'?
Simply use a different term.
Apple will launch a tablet device, re using the term 'iBook' most probably.
A mix of Kindle, iPod Touch, MacBook and all new sexy that only Apple can do.
We all want it, but just don't know it.
Simply use a different term.
Apple will launch a tablet device, re using the term 'iBook' most probably.
A mix of Kindle, iPod Touch, MacBook and all new sexy that only Apple can do.
We all want it, but just don't know it.
If Apple were to do a netbook, it would look more like a shrunken down MacBook Air. But unlike the Windows XP-based netbooks from Asus, Acer, etc., the Mac-based netbook will likely have a better keyboard, a small trackpad, and at least 2 GB of RAM and a 200 GB hard drive, not to mention Intel's latest dual-core version of that Atom low-power CPU.
Simply use a different term.
Apple will launch a tablet device, re using the term 'iBook' most probably.
A mix of Kindle, iPod Touch, MacBook and all new sexy that only Apple can do.
We all want it, but just don't know it.
LOL,
I think you're right in that they won't release a netbook; it seems to me they closed the door pretty firmly in the Q&A session, but clearly they've got other products about to hit the market in the near future (possibly as early as June), so it'll be fun to see what they do actually produce... Like you, my money is on a tablet device.
The iPhone and Touch have proved the popularity of portable devices and touch technology. Apple talk of defending a price umbrella which seems to suggest a cheaper end iPhone, but they also have IMHO a huge untapped market above the iPhone, but below the MacBooks... A tablet style product running full OSX would fit perfectly here, but this would be perilously close to the definition of a netbook... Alternative would be to have it running iPhone OS, that way it's just a big iPhone, not a netbook, but personally i'd only be interested in such a device if it ran full OSX... Interesting times...
I use a $500 PC laptop at work. It might not be as refined as my old plastic MB, but on the other hand, it isn't falling to pieces - like my old plastic MB.
"Cook notes that if they do find a way to deliver an innovative product that makes a real contribution, Apple will pursue it."
To me, this means that they will find a way to do it, and do it right. I see a great new product for
coming out sometime soon!
To me, this means that they will find a way to do it, and do it right. I see a great new product for
coming out sometime soon!
Yeah you don't make spelling mistakes.
Since you seem to be some big time advocate on this, were all those people who got Conficker downloading pirated software?
Hackintosh on netbooks is such a small percent of the market that it does not matter to apple. Students and families are getting OS X. Apple runs great deals for school districts and such. I switched my family over to OS X almost 7 years ago just because thats what I used at school. Apple makes products people desire to buy. Their job is having the product available, its the consumers job to get the money to afford it. They haven't concerned themselves with these low end, low cost anythings because they sell the high margin stuff.
That spec'd netbook you just quoted would be a cheaper MBA, and you wouldn't sell any MBA which they great margins on. I really don't see them even considering netbooks. I can only see a slightly bigger version touchscreen device running iphone OS.
Introducing anything like the MB or MBA just cheaper would eat away at their sales margins and I don't think the volume would be as high as you think. Apple buy apple because they want quality, and usually pay those higher prices to get it.