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Price differences...

I'm a bit confused...on the two basic models that have been listed so far, with a price difference between them of $1000 ($2999 and $3999) the only listed difference that I can see is 256mb of DDR ram.

That has to be a mistake, right? An extra 256 of DDR ram for $1000?

BTW...I think these prices are clearly in line for those who really need powerful rack-mount servers. I think Apple will have a hit here.
 
I just talked with our server admin/tech over hereatest IBM server (a 1 year old TB server) that we have is inside a 6U housing (rack mounted of course, and built that way). Imagine having 6 G4 Rackmount servers inside the same space, all running OS X server... Slip 160GB drives into the open bays (leave whatever Apple puts in it to start with) and make them RAID 0.... my god..
 
Re: RAID support

Originally posted by evangelist
Forgive me, but doesn't RAID support require SCSI drives, not ATA drives or am I mistaken?

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You ARE in error... you can RAID EITHER ATA OR SCSI drives. There are plenty of ATA RAID cards out there. I actually have an ATA RAID controller built into the motherboard on my peecee (supports two drives in either RAID 0 or 1).

SCSI RAID's are old school, especially with the ATA133 drives out now (and RAID controllers that support them).
 
Re: RAID support

Originally posted by evangelist
Forgive me, but doesn't RAID support require SCSI drives, not ATA drives or am I mistaken?

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no RAID doesn't require either specifically.

arn
 
Re: RAID support

Originally posted by evangelist
Forgive me, but doesn't RAID support require SCSI drives, not ATA drives or am I mistaken?

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There are RAID controllers for ATA drives. They have been around for a few years. Quite a few vendors offer them.
 
Alls I know is, I've got four WD 120GB drives (ATA) running off a Sonnet Tempo ATA/133 RAID card, so guess not... it's sort of like emulation =)
 
Re: Re: RAID support

Originally posted by AlphaTech


You ARE in error... you can RAID EITHER ATA OR SCSI drives. There are plenty of ATA RAID cards out there. I actually have an ATA RAID controller built into the motherboard on my peecee (supports two drives in either RAID 0 or 1).

SCSI RAID's are old school, especially with the ATA133 drives out now (and RAID controllers that support them).
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Oops.... Boy am I behind times. Thanks for the info!🙂
 
Im not overly blown away (im wondering why the max ram is stuck at 2 Gb...) however, i was thinking that if I had a server, I'd want access to parts - something that apple traditionally doesnt do.....
and then this
A group of them wanted to be self-sufficient, particularly in the hardware area. Xserve is simple and fast for servicing -- pull it out, replace parts.
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indeed we do!! now, does this mean I could buy a twin g4 mobo and cpus without extras? hmm...now theres a thought....
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Timothy - I suspect this price difference reflects apples odd RAM pricing - its probably 512 in one slot that hiles the price... 😉 However, i think these specs should put the nail in the proverbial g5 coffin for the foreseeable future. its a pity, as it would have been nice to see Apple 'first to market' with a 'consumer' 64bit (ie affordable!!) machine.
 
Originally posted by Pants
Im not overly blown away (im wondering why the max ram is stuck at 2 Gb...) however, i was thinking that if I had a server, I'd want access to parts - something that apple traditionally doesnt do.....
and then this


indeed we do!! now, does this mean I could buy a twin g4 mobo and cpus without extras? hmm...now theres a thought....
🙂

Timothy - I suspect this price difference reflects apples odd RAM pricing - its probably 512 in one slot that hiles the price... 😉
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I hope it's not just that. You can buy DDR fairly cheap right now even for name-brand memory. But we won't know for a few hours yet.
 
But, Kingston's price for DDR ram is around $170! Not sure what Apple's specs are in regards to exactly what type, but there's no WAY is could be $1000.... is there??
 
YES YES YES!!!

"Introduces Mike Rocha, senior vice president, Platform Tech, Oracle: Oracle 9i on OS X -- we very excited about this hardware. Oracle is about low-cost clustering. Future releases will be on-time, synchronous. When we use UNIX native support, native APIs, optimized for this hardware, we can synchronize our releases so that our customers can have unified database versions across different hardware platforms. "


I am rapidly becoming a VERY VERY HAPPY CAMPER.
 
Re: Price differences...

Originally posted by Timothy
That has to be a mistake, right? An extra 256 of DDR ram for $1000?
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i was thinking the same thing....is DDR ram that much more expensive?

anyone have any approximate prices?😕
 
doh

MacCentral had it wrong...

$2999 - > 1ghz SINGLE processor model
$3999 - > 1ghz DUAL processor

See the main macrumors page article for update and link to official press release.
 
$3000 for a SINGLE processor??!?!!

I don't know, but to me that is CRAZY. NOW a Quicksilver Server with DUAL 1GHZ for $2992 is looking DAMN good.

-- justin
 
Re: doh

Originally posted by arn
MacCentral had it wrong...

$2999 - > 1ghz SINGLE processor model
$3999 - > 1ghz DUAL processor

See the main macrumors page article for update and link to official press release.
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I hope the single processor model offers the ability to add a second processor at a later date.
 
Wow!

I'm suitably impressed, and I look forward to seeing the academic pricing on these.

I'm still waiting to see the pics and full tech specs on Apple's website...

Looks like we've got Oracle on board as well...

My my...and a new record of 417 users...I think my estimate of 500 users at MWNY was too conservative. 😀

arn- any plans on keeping up with the bandwidth?
 
Re: Wow!

Originally posted by Rower_CPU

arn- any plans on keeping up with the bandwidth?
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It's not a bandwidth isssue so much as a server load issue... we'll see....

arn
 
I Love You Steve

He he. and a RAID product coming soon. A monster RAID solution I might add. They've been working hard. Good show Apple.
 
This just in at the Apple Store!

Looks like pics are coming soon😀
 

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