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Apple Rackmount Event

Originally posted by JtheLemur
Pants -

That's exactly what I said. I guess education doesn't REALLY matter.

-- justin
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i deleted teh post - i figured people here would think Im always negative.. 😉
however, your right - 4 grand is a lot of dosh, and although not a bad deal, its not exactly great, and education/ research isnt exactly swimming in cash...


having said that....it *looks* really nice...too nice to be hidden under the stairs... 🙂
 
man... crazy fine!

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Check this out:

http://www.apple.com/xserve/storage.html
 
What takes so long?

To update the store...don't they have a production server where they can test everything offline, and then just make the switch in a few seconds?

Don't they know that my productivity is next to zero when I am waiting to see new products? C'mon Apple, I need to get back to work! Show me the boxes! 😀
 
Originally posted by JtheLemur
$3000 for a SINGLE processor??!?!!

I don't know, but to me that is CRAZY. NOW a Quicksilver Server with DUAL 1GHZ for $2992 is looking DAMN good.

-- justin
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I knew someone would find something to b*tch about.... You are paying for the engineering it took to condense the server into a 1U housing. As well as including TWO Gigabit ethernet controllers.

I just priced out a 1U option from IBM, with dual GHz processors (actually 1.13GHz), NO L3 cache (not even an option), 512MB of PC133 memory (NOT DDR like the Apple 1U server), Linux (installed before you get it), two Gb ethernet adapters/cards, keyboard, mouse, and 3 year 9-5 on site support (less then you would get from AppleCare, but close enough). Total comes to $4800, and that is WITHOUT ANY hard drives inside. You are forced to use SCSI drives, unless you want to add an ATA card to use them.

You get much more from Apple, for less money. Imagine what you would get for the 1U server with $4800 (get the DDR memory elsewhere, since Apple will probably charge a premium). Besides the fact that I would bet the Apple server looks a hell of a lot better then what IBM offers.
 
Oh, sweet Jesus, look at the Graphics support. 32MB Radeon standard and 64mb Radeon 8500 Optional! Man, this mother is goint to rock!!!!!!

MWNY is looking great!
 
Originally posted by AlphaTech


I knew someone would find something to b*tch about.... You are paying for the engineering .....
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hmm...so why *did* you buy a harley? 😉
 
Originally posted by Pants



hmm...so why *did* you buy a harley? 😉
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Because I wanted a QUALITY item that will keep on running forever. Considering how the odometer reads 6 digits...

I know that any Mac I purchase will be usable for years to come, and only gets replaced because I want something newer. I am looking at having my Harley for the next 10-20 years, and then MAYBE trading it in to get a new model, when the time comes (if ever).
 
Where are the details?

Motherboard? What's new about it? How fast?

Main memory (DDR), how fast?

Firewire, what flavor?

CPU's replaceable?

Motherboard replaceable?

What flavor of G4?

Nice aggressive pricing for its target market. Bear in mind bitchers ('price too high'), it's not intended for consumers or desktops. It has redundant (?) power supplies, hot-swappable drives, and a variety of electronics to monitor the health of the machine.

Eirik
 
Originally posted by Backtothemac


OMG..... B2TM runs as fast as possible to avoid the nuclear detonation that fell on Pants....
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Ahhhh, you know me well grasshopper... muahahahahahahahahaaa...

Light 'em up... 😀
 
Re: Where are the details?

Originally posted by eirik
Motherboard? What's new about it? How fast?

Main memory (DDR), how fast?

Firewire, what flavor?

CPU's replaceable?

Motherboard replaceable?

What flavor of G4?

Nice aggressive pricing for its target market. Bear in mind bitchers ('price too high'), it's not intended for consumers or desktops. It has redundant (?) power supplies, hot-swappable drives, and a variety of electronics to monitor the health of the machine.

Eirik
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Go to the web site and see... sheeesh.. it's using PC2100 DDR memory (widely used in high end desktop peecee's but rare in servers). CPU's appear to be on a daughter card (as is the norm for Apple these days, at least in towers)... Look at the spec's and find out... or are you too damned lazy???
 
Originally posted by AlphaTech


Because I wanted a QUALITY item that will keep on running forever. Considering how the odometer reads 6 digits...

I know that any Mac I purchase will be usable for years to come, and only gets replaced because I want something newer. I am looking at having my Harley for the next 10-20 years, and then MAYBE trading it in to get a new model, when the time comes (if ever).
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ahh....ok, so thats why it got modified as soon as you bought it? i bet its also got 3 digits on the speedo.... 😉
 
No quads!!!

Interesting. No market for it? Nonsense!

Is there a motherboard/main memory limitation?

Is someone post about the G4 not being good for quad configurations true?

Does this mean we don't have an updated G4?

No G5 or six-way (2 G4's and 4 G6's; my ribs are still sore)

Eirik
 
Originally posted by Pants


ahh....ok, so thats why it got modified as soon as you bought it? i bet its also got 3 digits on the speedo.... 😉
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Speedo goes up to 120MPH, and the odometer already reads 710 miles on it... not bad for about 6 weeks (with cold times, and this damned rain we are having this week).

I swapped parts on it to fit what I wanted right off the bat. I plan to slowly customize it further over the next several years. When I am done, there will be little left of the original motorcycle (frame and engine most likely). That is part of the beauty of a Harley... you can customize the hell out of it. As long as you still have the VIN numbers on the frame (that identify it as a HD) it retains it's value. Go to a different frame, and the value will drop. Don't ask why, it just does. Sort of like why does windblows crash so much... it just does.
 
LMAO!!

take a look at this picture of 23 Xserve's !!! The estimated price? $69,000 Single Processor or $92,000 for Dual. Wow. Talk about Gigaflops. The Dual would be about 345 Gigaflops based on the Quicksilvers performance. But DDR and other MOBO refinements have to bring that number up signifigantly.
 
dukestreet, I almost had an accident when I saw that picture on Apple's web site... I can't afford that since I am at work... 😀
 
AlphaTech -

You compltetely missed my point. I wasn't comparing it to other platforms, just to Apple's other products. I'm in education, and I'm sorry but $4000 for a dual-gig system is just too expensive, I don't care if it fit in a quarter unit of rack space. Like I mentioned before, you can get a pretty much maxed-out Quicksilver server for only $2992.

So, $2992 versus $4000, not including AppleCare. For most schools, it'll end up being the latter.

-- justin
 
Superdrive

Wonder if they'll offer a DVD-R drive.
I'm serious! 🙂
I've been considering taking my current video editing hobby and starting a small business. The new server would be great since I could rack mount it along with a recording mixer and video deck. (Anyone know if computer racks are the same width as A/V racks? Might need some kind of adapter if not.)
The only thing lacking is an internal DVD. It's not too big a deal as an external, FireWire DVD-R would work DVD Studio Pro.

Really, I just hope they get that DDR memory into the towers ASAP! That's when I'll probably buy.
 
Originally posted by AlphaTech
dukestreet, I almost had an accident when I saw that picture on Apple's web site... I can't afford that since I am at work... 😀
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Here is my favorite so far...

Well, so much for all of those that said the G4 couldn't support DDR....
 

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Re: Superdrive

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
Wonder if they'll offer a DVD-R drive.
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Don't think so— there's no space as it is. Only expansion seems to be the PCI, RAM, and HD's.

Seems to be no Firewire 2 as I expected.

[edit] Fire wire port on the front! [/edit]
 
k0sZ iginally posted by JtheLemur [/i]
AlphaTech -

You compltetely missed my point. I wasn't comparing it to other platforms, just to Apple's other products. I'm in education, and I'm sorry but $4000 for a dual-gig system is just too expensive, I don't care if it fit in a quarter unit of rack space. Like I mentioned before, you can get a pretty much maxed-out Quicksilver server for only $2992.

So, $2992 versus $4000, not including AppleCare. For most schools, it'll end up being the latter.

-- justin [/QUOTE]

Yes, you can, without....
DDR 2 gigs worth
4megs of ddr memory for the procs
much, much faster bus
2nd gigabit port
hot swap drives
remote server management software
the list goes on.

Remember the the base is 2999, and will probably be less for education.

Damn, I want one!

PS.
Do you thing Virtual PC would be fast on this?
😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
 
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