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For all complaining guys...

Stop buying and then the prices will drop but if people keeps paying $$$$ for that why apple is wrong to not increase the prices?
 
Now A$3200 for the base spec 3.5GHz 5K model.

I think they are out of their mind. They made the 5k model $200 cheaper, but in Holland (EU-zone) it's actually 30 euros more expensive. It also looks like they increases the prices for options as well. I see now +360 euro voor 512 GB flash, used to be +300 euro.

720 euro for 32 GB SDRAM ?

I can buy 96 GB for that.
 
So true. They increased their profit margins a lot with the retina models (even killed manual RAM/SSD upgrades). And they keep getting better, especially with the upselling marketing strategy. The cMBP 15'' base model was 1799€ (with a dGPU) in 2012. Now i am looking at a 2249€ price tag for the base model without dGPU and at 2799€ for the model with dGPU. Macbooks are getting luxury items (again). This isn't a good thing for marketshare and brand image.

Yeah, the value of the rMBP is getting terrible - even in US pricing. The original 15" rMBP, one of the first computers with a HiDPI display and fairly early in the SSD game was 2199$ US in 2012. Now the 2015 model, has a CPU that benchmarks a measly 15% higher, doubled the RAM, faster SSD and the new trackpad for 1999$ US. Let's not forget they even removed the dGPU from the base model.
 
Looking at the canadian prices for the 15" MBP, I don't see it selling as much as it used to. It's severely under specked and the price blows the budget for just about everyone.

Yep, I was planning to upgrade my 13" rMBP to a 15" this summer (assumed new CPU would be announced). But it's not gonna happen with these new prices. It's $500 more than it was last year and it's not like I got a 20% raise.
 
This probably means that they'll also increase the prices of iPhones when they launch 6S in September :(
 
Also in Mexico! They raised the price for the equivalent of more than $100 (almost $150).

BTW, I called Apple Store US to buy a new 15" Macbook Pro (I would have it delivered to the US), and the girl that answered the call refused to help me because I am from Mexico. She was like, I won't help you because you need to buy from Apple Store Mexico. I told her that I wanted to buy it there, and she just refused. I told her to get a supervisor, and she also refused! WTF!! She didn't even let me explain to her anything at all, and hung up on me.

I really got upset! So now because I am mexican I can't buy an Apple product in the US?? First of all, it's not the first time I would buy a Mac by calling and ordering it by phone! What the hell?!
 
It's all well and good blaming this on currency but when the dollar weakened did prices drop? No. Apple just profited from it.

I'd expect movement on UK prices at the next model refreshes, but its making me seriously question whether Mac is the right choice for me now.
 
The problem is, at least here in Portugal, it only goes one way.

When the dollar was lower, a $1500 product used to cost here €1500, instead of, let's say, €1200. So that product was more expensive in Portugal, and looks like it's getting even more.

The difference was not that high. prices in US are pre-tax. Prices in Europe include taxes. If you do the math, there's almost no difference
 
The difference was not that high. prices in US are pre-tax. Prices in Europe include taxes. If you do the math, there's almost no difference

You are correct. People sometimes forget that U.S. Prices are before sales tax.
 
1. angela's sign-on bonus must be paid somehow

2. eddie's failure to make anything useful out of the high cost of the Beats acquisition must be compensated for

3. spaceship campus cost overruns must be covered somehow

4. largest apple store in the world, which is planned for Dubai (50,000 sqft), must be built quickly enough so that its opening can be well before the 2022 World Cup in the region so that there will be enough balloons.
 
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£1,599 for a Retina iMac is a great price. I just wish they didn't ask for an extra £160 to upgrade to an SSD. Not sure I could live with standard hard disk, plus I don't need 1TB of storage. Would much rather have 256GB of much faster storage.
 
Glad I live in the United States.

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The difference was not that high. prices in US are pre-tax. Prices in Europe include taxes. If you do the math, there's almost no difference

Actually, yeah, good point. I always forget that.

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Yeah, the value of the rMBP is getting terrible - even in US pricing. The original 15" rMBP, one of the first computers with a HiDPI display and fairly early in the SSD game was 2199$ US in 2012. Now the 2015 model, has a CPU that benchmarks a measly 15% higher, doubled the RAM, faster SSD and the new trackpad for 1999$ US. Let's not forget they even removed the dGPU from the base model.

The CPU isn't much faster because the revision was to reduce power consumption. The battery life is much better now. The CPU's integrated graphics are also scoring much higher on benchmarks. I still think the 13" model is usually the better laptop to get.
 
People ultimately complain because it's rare for other global companies to do the same thing.

I can't think of any tech companies that do this as regularly as Apple.

It's like how Apple prominently shows the amount of VAT (UK sales tax) it has to charge next to its products to try and shift the blame for high prices away from their pricing policy.

The "38mm Stainless Steel Case with White Sport Band" Apple Watch "Includes VAT of approx. £80.00." for example.

This means nothing to consumers in the UK - all comparable products will include VAT. It feels like the sort of stunt that would work well politically in the US.

I don't think Apple is trying to shift blame away from high prices to VAT. Pretty much all tech sellers list the amount of VAT or at least the non VAT price as most businesses can claim that back. You could argue that Apple and all US sellers of any product there hide the real cost after tax from their products to make their prices seem lower. That's just the (idiotic) way they 'price' things over in the US versus how objects are priced in the UK and EU.

Other tech companies don't do this price adjustment because they don't have to - their prices are fluid based on supply and demand of the components, not frozen in time like Apple's are.
 
The last increase was in March and at that time the EUR/USD pair was exactly at the same levels as of today, so there is NO EXCUSE for Apple to do this.

In march, they raised the prices of different products than today. The desktop Macs stayed the same then, now their prices are being adapted too.

If you do the maths, you'll get to quite similar numbers, except Apple won't sell something for odd numbers like 2237,43 € obviously.

For example, the 15" Retina MBP base model:

  • US price: 1999 $ (excluding VAT), stayed the same for almost 2 years
  • In mid 2014, 1 €*was about 1.3 $ then, so 1999 $ / 1.3 = 1.537.69 €, plus VAT for example in germany 19 %, so 1537.69 € / 0.81 = 1898.38 €, now that's still a 100 € less than the actual price of 1999 €, but that difference is 5 %.
  • In march 2015, 1 €*was less than 1.05 $, so 1999 $ / 1.05 = 1903.81 €, plus 19 % german VAT that's 1903.81 € / 0.81 = 2.350,38 €. With an actual price of 2249 € in march, the 15" MBP base model was even 100 € cheaper for german customers.
  • Today, 1 €*is about 1.13 $, so 1999 $ / 1.13 = 1769.03 €, plus VAT 1769.03 € / 0.81 = 2183.99 €, while the entry price of the new model remains 2249 €. As you see, there's always fluctuation, sometimes in favor of Apple and sometimes in the customer's favor.
 
The base nMP is now $4000 in Sweden inc tax and shipping..

Now that is some great bang for your buck..
..said no one ever! :)

Edit: 6-core is now $5300!
 
Also interesting thing - and I hope this will just confirm spec bump tmrw or new spec in irish apple online store there is only 1- non retina 27" iMac on offer for a staggering €2149 with only gt775m gpu and without any option of upgrading to 780gpu.
 
The last increase was in March and at that time the EUR/USD pair was exactly at the same levels as of today, so there is NO EXCUSE for Apple to do this.

In Brazil, BRL/USD ratio is even better today than in march, but prices also increased. It seems that they're simply testing the market. If sales decrease, prices will drop in the next release. The best atitude is refusing to buy. Otherwise, Apple is right on increasing their prices.
 
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While the high-end 27-inch iMac with Retina 5K Display was discounted from $2,499 to $2,299 today, Apple has raised the prices on several other products in Europe and Canada as the U.S. dollar continues to remain strong against the euro and other international currencies. The affected countries in the European Union include Germany, France, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Finland and multiple others.

ImageiMac prices increased by between EUR150 to EUR300 in Europe per configuration
All non-Retina 21.5-inch and 27-inch iMac models in affected countries are now between 150 to 300 euros more expensive starting today. The base configuration iMac, for example, increased from EUR1,099 to EUR1,249, while the high-end 27-inch iMac without Retina display rose from EUR1,799 to EUR2,099. Prices may vary slightly between countries due to applicable local taxes and tariffs.

Apple also increased the price of the Mac Pro by between 400 to 600 euros, with the base model going from EUR2,999 to EUR3,399 and the high-end configuration now priced at EUR4,599 up from EUR3,999. The base model Mac mini increased 50 euros to EUR569, while the mid-tier and top-tier configurations were bumped up 100 euros to cost EUR819 and EUR1,129 respectively. 12-inch MacBook, MacBook Pro and MacBook Air prices have not changed.

ImageMac Pro prices increased by between $200 to $400 in Canada per configuration
Meanwhile, the price of non-Retina 21.5-inch and 27-inch iMac models increased by $100 to $150 in Canada as conversion rates continue to fluctuate. Similarly, the Mac Pro now costs between $200 to $400 more in Canada depending on the configuration, and Mac mini prices rose by between $50 to $120. The prices of various Mac accessories, including the Magic Mouse and USB-C adapters, also rose in both Europe and Canada.

Apple last raised prices in Europe, Canada, Australia and other regions in early March.

Article Link: Apple Raises Prices in Europe and Canada as U.S. Dollar Remains Strong
I wonder why Apple insists upon charging more for the same product in Europe. Even more if you know they work through Ireland to avoid taxes and social benefits.
 
I wonder why Apple insists upon charging more for the same product in Europe. Even more if you know they work through Ireland to avoid taxes and social benefits.

They don't charge more, and never have. At least not much more...

US prices don't include VAT, as it varies extremely between US states.

EU prices however do include VAT, about 20 % in most EU states.

Simple as that.
 
They don't charge more, and never have. At least not much more...

US prices don't include VAT, as it varies extremely between US states.

EU prices however do include VAT, about 20 % in most EU states.

Simple as that.

Even with VAT added for NYC, for example, the price is still cheaper in the U.S.
 
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