As if you guys weren't paying enough already with the AUS tax. What a joke.
Let's hope it won't arrive, as I'd prefer that - for example - our food standards remain the same (instead of being lowered to the American standards).It's the insane European taxes that kill the prices for us. We can only hope that when TTIP arrives,
And this definitely won't happen. You're from The Netherlands. 20% of all the money the government earns, comes from VAT. There will be no way that the Dutch government will sign a (trade) agreement that involves the risk of losing so much money.we can freely import electronics from the US...
In march, they raised the prices of different products than today. The desktop Macs stayed the same then, now their prices are being adapted too.
If you do the maths, you'll get to quite similar numbers, except Apple won't sell something for odd numbers like 2237,43 obviously.
For example, the 15" Retina MBP base model:
- US price: 1999 $ (excluding VAT), stayed the same for almost 2 years
- In mid 2014, 1 *was about 1.3 $ then, so 1999 $ / 1.3 = 1.537.69 , plus VAT for example in germany 19 %, so 1537.69 / 0.81 = 1898.38 , now that's still a 100 less than the actual price of 1999 , but that difference is 5 %.
- In march 2015, 1 *was less than 1.05 $, so 1999 $ / 1.05 = 1903.81 , plus 19 % german VAT that's 1903.81 / 0.81 = 2.350,38 . With an actual price of 2249 in march, the 15" MBP base model was even 100 cheaper for german customers.
- Today, 1 *is about 1.13 $, so 1999 $ / 1.13 = 1769.03 , plus VAT 1769.03 / 0.81 = 2183.99 , while the entry price of the new model remains 2249 . As you see, there's always fluctuation, sometimes in favor of Apple and sometimes in the customer's favor.
If you're trying to tell me what I think you're trying to tell me, then you're wrong.
The 19 % VAT in germany I mentioned are 19 % of the gross price, which already includes the VAT, not of the net price.
That means, according to the math you did (correctly), that the german VAT is actually 23.45 % of the net price. Which means that my calculations were correct.
The gross price already includes the VAT, but the percentage is applied to the net and added, as usual. The gross is calculated from the net, not the reverse (well, sellers will do the reciprocal calculation to show a nice number, but not customs).
The last increase was in March and at that time the EUR/USD pair was exactly at the same levels as of today, so there is NO EXCUSE for Apple to do this.
They don't charge more, and never have. At least not much more...
US prices don't include VAT, as it varies extremely between US states.
EU prices however do include VAT, about 20 % in most EU states.
Simple as that.
We can only hope that when TTIP arrives, we can freely import electronics from the US...
What does USD have to do with this ? Except the Mac Pro, all the Apple products are made in China. Then, they're shipped directly to Europe when all the money is funelled to Ireland, which uses euro, to escape taxation.
hell no to that! do u want their toxic food???
The point is to compare the prices in Europe before tax to USA, as it's typical for many companies to charge more than in their darling market.
Then, we should call it what it is... It's just adjustment due to exchange rates, it's just commercial policies... Like what the Japanese did in photography, it was a lot more expensive in Europe to be able to sell with very little margin in the US and kill the american competition... But this too had nothing to do with exchange rates...
It's not surprising, the prices are almost exactly what the conversion rate is.
I wouldn't expect Apple to eat that cost. It's just not their style. I would like them better if they did though![]()
The gross price already includes the VAT, but the percentage is applied to the net and added, as usual. The gross is calculated from the net, not the reverse (well, sellers will do the reciprocal calculation to show a nice number, but not customs).
Oops, yes you are right. I always thought it was 19 % of the final price, but a quick google search proved that to be wrong.
While that makes my numbers inaccurate, it doesn't invalidate my statement. There isn't that much of a price difference between US and EU, so no real reason to complain.
What does USD have to do with this ? Except the Mac Pro, all the Apple products are made in China. Then, they're shipped directly to Europe when all the money is funelled to Ireland, which uses euro, to escape taxation.