Yeah, but how do that explain the sudden price hike everywhere outside US? All countries suddenly raised their DUTIES, TARIFFS, IMPORT TAXES?
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Apple Raises Prices on Several Products in Many Countries Amid Strong U.S. Dollar
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Yeah, but how do that explain the sudden price hike everywhere outside US? All countries suddenly raised their DUTIES, TARIFFS, IMPORT TAXES?
I will explain why. First of all, Apple didn't raise their prices until the currency changed by more than 20% or so. They don't just change their prices on a whim.
Secondly, when Apple introduced and set the prices for their products(iPhone in 2007, iPads 2010, etc), the euro was something like 1.4(roughly). So, they're not going to lower the price just because it went to 1.5 from 1.4. However, going from 1.4 to 1.1 IS a huge enough of a change. I'm sure they would lower the price if the euro went to 1.8 or something.
This is indeed a bit awkward, as I don't recall Apple ever lowering the prices due to a weak USD
Actually, they sort of have. When introducing new models they occassionally lowered the price versus the U.S. pricing. But to be honest, never to a level of parity.
And on top of that... Apple doesn't take the money 'home', that is, where the HQ is: USA. They keep more abroad than in the US, to avoid paying taxes.
So in the end, Apple is even cashing more in case of currency fluctuations as they just can buy/sell the currency they prefer any time.
Or in other words, the currency is the excuse... should the currency weaken, they won't update the prices so quickly.
But in any case, it doesn't matter much for Apple I think. Thye are aware that a weak EUR (or a strong USD) is just good for one side, the weak one, and it is already a fact, EU companies are selling like crazy while US based ones are having trouble to export (QE they call it
So in the end, Apple is just guaranteeing a minimum flow (they aim at the loyal customers, not everyone, and those don't care about prices).On my end, I don't care. I keep my MBP from 2010 and will do so until there is a 13 inch rMBA (or alike) and not that silver-space-gold piece of art they just released (though it is good... because that is the base of the new generation, and so it will become mainstream and cheaper
Maybe in 2016 or 2017.
For Canada it's not really as bad as it seem's.
Base=$1549 vs $1299 (U.S.)
At today's rate:
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency-converter/#from=USD;to=CAD;amt=1
$1299 (U.S.) = $1640 (CDN)
So in fact apple's discount is $1640-$1549=$91!
Base=$1549 vs $1299 (U.S.)
At today's rate:
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency-converter/#from=USD;to=CAD;amt=1
$1299 (U.S.) = $1640 (CDN)
So in fact apple's discount is $1640-$1549=$91!
Then you don't understand how they keep their money. The money isn't kept in the local banks or something. It all flows into Ireland in DOLLARS!
They don't pay their taxes here. They paid 183 Million in taxes on a 27 billion dollar revenue - Then income tax is 30 percent of revenue. Australians shouldn't be expected to channel more money out of the country when the right amount is not being collected by the government.
EG the prices a bit under the exchange rate, were partially making up for Apple's corporate tax avoidance here.
This. I am now certain half the people here either never went to school or don't understand how the market works. They expect to pay the same price even if a currency goes down the toilet tomorrow.
Hello,
but for France... WTF !!
$1299 US = 1202 at today's rate and Apple charge 1449 ! it's 200 more than before.
I'm really a big fan of their products and I was going to buy a macbook pro but there is no way I'm going to pay 200 more than I should, and don't tell it's the spec bump that explain this raise because in US, the price is the same than before the spec bump !
I'm really pissed off now !
Its the same here in Europe. Apple pays a ridiculous small amount of tax...
"The European Commission has confirmed it believes Apple and Ireland breached guidelines on state aid over Apple's Irish tax arrangements.
In keeping with its zeitgeist-grabbing history, Apple was one of the first U.S. companies to lead the charge in relocating much of its earnings to Ireland.
This decision, which has led to the maker of the iPhone paying rates of around 2 percent tax in some years (compared to corporation 35 percent in the U.S.), has got it in hot water with European tax authorities. The Irish government and Apple have vehemently denied any wrongdoing."
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102043641
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Noticed that here in Canada, as all the prices seemed noticeably higher online. The apple tv did drop from $109.00 to $89.00 though.
I CAN'T believe apple!!! The 15" retina macbook pro costs 350 eur more today than it did yesterday if I'm not mistaken 350!!!! It now costs 2800 eur! ... for a laptop that wasn't even updated seriously
seriouslyMy memory is certainly not very clear on this, but I though the price cut happened in the USA as well? As in they lowered the prices for their products as opposed to just lowering the prices outside the States. But I might be wrong.
All in all, don't take me wrong, I am not complaining. The prices in Switzerland are fair, IMO. I pay around $100 more compared to the USA (taxes taken into account), which is reasonable. The rent for my 60m2 apparent is still substantially higher than a mid-range 13" retina
Actually the unchanged high end MBPr went up $500 over night in Australia. The 2012 MBPc went up $200. I suspected the three year old tech would finally get discontinued honestly, not go up in price.
Just last week I sold 70+ of the exact same model to some schools. This week? Well, you do that math.
You apologists can say what you want in relation to taxes, tariffs and duties, I say this - Apple are just greedy arseholes.
Just last week I sold 70+ of the exact same model to some schools. This week? Well, you do that math.
You apologists can say what you want in relation to taxes, tariffs and duties, I say this - Apple are just greedy arseholes.
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I think tax issues and fairness aside, there's something wrong with the concept/system when products are costing several hundred euro more today than they did yesterday.
Regarding that thunderbolt display, it should be reduced in price considering how old it is now...
Regarding that thunderbolt display, it should be reduced in price considering how old it is now...
That was called the right exchange rate. Apple has been taking a loss all this time as the $AU was getting weaker.
LOL... I'm so glad that I didn't wait for the Broadwell update
Got my 13" rMBP w/512GB SSD back in December. Turns out I saved about 400 by not waiting for something that has marginally better performance
Interestingly enough, my 6+ 128GB costs about the same through my cell service provider as it did back when I got it at launch. I wonder if they'll be increasing the price soon or if this is just limited to the Apple store?
If the prices are still this bad (or worse) when I need to upgrade 2-3 years from now, I'm afraid I'll just have to go back to Android/Windows. I expect the Galaxy Note 6 (if that's what they're going to call it) to be pretty darn sweet at that point if Samsung continues with their current approach that they've adopted with the S6. Lollipop is really nice from what I've tried and Windows 10 looks to be on the right track.
At this rate, I'll most likely just skip the watch. It's cool, but it's not something I need and I can finder other much cooler things in that price range to spend my money on. I mean, I can get a pretty sweet GPU for my gaming PC for the price of the 38mm base aluminium model and I spend more time playing PC games than I spend looking at some watch. Heh, or how about the Oculus Rift when it comes out? Yeah, that watch is not exactly good value for money, even before Apple jacked up the prices on the European side of things. But it's cool that it's there. Maybe in a couple of years when things have matured, it'll be a must have item at a more reasonable price
Got my 13" rMBP w/512GB SSD back in December. Turns out I saved about 400 by not waiting for something that has marginally better performance
Interestingly enough, my 6+ 128GB costs about the same through my cell service provider as it did back when I got it at launch. I wonder if they'll be increasing the price soon or if this is just limited to the Apple store?
If the prices are still this bad (or worse) when I need to upgrade 2-3 years from now, I'm afraid I'll just have to go back to Android/Windows. I expect the Galaxy Note 6 (if that's what they're going to call it) to be pretty darn sweet at that point if Samsung continues with their current approach that they've adopted with the S6. Lollipop is really nice from what I've tried and Windows 10 looks to be on the right track.
At this rate, I'll most likely just skip the watch. It's cool, but it's not something I need and I can finder other much cooler things in that price range to spend my money on. I mean, I can get a pretty sweet GPU for my gaming PC for the price of the 38mm base aluminium model and I spend more time playing PC games than I spend looking at some watch. Heh, or how about the Oculus Rift when it comes out? Yeah, that watch is not exactly good value for money, even before Apple jacked up the prices on the European side of things. But it's cool that it's there. Maybe in a couple of years when things have matured, it'll be a must have item at a more reasonable price
Ouch a 15% price-hike here in Belgium on the MBPr 15". I was looking to get a new one later this year, but that's food for thought... Wait and see if a compelling upgrade comes along, but right now that's not interesting at all.
Interestingly, the iPhone prices appear unchanged...
Interestingly, the iPhone prices appear unchanged...