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Apple being Apple. Overpriced Apple products are now even more overpriced.Good job Apple.
 
Thanks Seth. Why don't you also add that in the U.S. one would have to pay 8% on the $1,299 price?
If the price difference is so high, then folks will continue to grab the items when they come and visit as tourists. For some countries that still makes sense. But with the strong U.S. dollar, I suspect we will see less of that. And being a foreigner does not exempt you from paying sales tax here in the U.S.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think what most (European) people are complaining about is the overall cost difference including VAT what I believe has been calculated the wrong way several times now. So let me try:

Old Josef wants to buy a new MacBook (let's say in Germany). Now he has to pay 1449€ (EUR) (already including VAT.)

Old Jack now wants to buy the same new MacBook in the US. He has to pay $1299 (USD). At the counter he has to add VAT (~8%). That makes the MacBook cost 1299*1,08 = $1403,92 (USD)

Those $1402,92 (USD) convert at the actual exchange rate (of: 1€ (EUR) = $1,07 (USD)) to 1311,14€ (EUR)

Summarized: The new MacBook in the US for 1311,14€ is 137,86€ (EUR) or $147,51 (USD) cheaper to the one in Europe for the customer.

And that is the thing people in Europe complain about. (correctly as I feel with them)

markus
 
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Crapy moves like this are big part of the reason apple never really took off in europe. Yes, apple can throw some numbers about macs yoy growth but reality is that apple is nothing but a little overpriced niche in europe. Even iphone is hard to spot.

You have got be kidding with these statements right?! I've seen some funny posts on this site but this one is off the scale!
 
Every single Apple Laptop went up by $200 in Australia sadly :(

Apple should start paying its proper income tax here if it wants to jack up prices (although I do acknowledge prices are somewhat dependent on the exchange rate). The non Retina Macbook went up to $1549 - which is well above the currency conversion and our GST... not overly fair.

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Pffft...I'm out.

This 'conversation' has predictably gone the way of all news threads on this website.

When people start defending corporations over customers I have no interest in talking anymore.

You reap what you sow, mother****ers. All hail the mighty capitalistic monolith that is Apple. Enjoy your fancy new watches, er…I mean, old iPod nanos on fancy new over priced wrist straps.
 
f you go to Switzerland, you're going to pay wildly high prices, not just because Switzerland is expensive, but imports on electronics are insanely taxed.

Not true. Electronics are generally cheaper in Switzerland than in the EU. VAT is also low at 8%.

Example: the just-announced 12 inch MacBook is 1299$ in the Apple Store, which is without VAT. Right now, 1299$ are about 1300 Swiss Francs. Add 8% and you're at 1400 Swiss Francs. The price in the Swiss Apple Store is 1399 Swiss Francs and already includes VAT. So the prices are the same.
 
Hmm, I'm not usually and Apple-Apologist. However in this case you're all clearly placing the blame at the wrong feet. Might I suggest...

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I think the AppleTV DID get a discount. They probably increased the price to take into account the exchange rate and then deducted the $30 to match the price drop in the US.

Probably what's happened.

That's good thinking cause it matches up cause 69 USD is 90 AUD damn that sucks
 
So...

...if the people who bought their AppleTV yesterday for $99 only to see it drop to $69 today are up in arms and want a $30 refund, does that mean that if they bought a MacBook Pro yesterday, they should give Apple a further $500 after the price increase today? :D
 
Every single Apple Laptop went up by $200 in Australia sadly :(

Apple should start paying its proper income tax here if it wants to jack up prices (although I do acknowledge prices are somewhat dependent on the exchange rate). The non Retina Macbook went up to $1549 - which is well above the currency conversion and our GST... not overly fair.

The TV here still costs $109.
 
Are MacRumors readers this uninformed? It's called DUTIES, TARIFFS, IMPORT TAXES. If you go to Switzerland, you're going to pay wildly high prices, not just because Switzerland is expensive, but imports on electronics are insanely taxed.

Get your information straight before you start kicking Apple around. I agree that they're greedy (Apple Watch Edition freshest evidence), but this is basic customs and duties. If you but a Mac in the US on a trip and return to the EU, you better believe you'll need to claim it and pay taxes. Unlike the U.S., taxes/tariffs/duties are included in prices in other countries.

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Australians can thank their politicians for taxing electronic imports...no need to blame Apple for everything.

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You can thank the EU and your country for its protective taxes/tariffs/duties. The fundamental price difference--before currency adjustments--is due to difference duties and tariffs on imports, namely electronics. The EU also doesn't favor Chinese imported goods with the ease that the U.S. does...you should thank your government's protective policies.

True in switzerland import taxes are high, but if you buy one device its free if you claim its yours and being it from outside. Only if you bring many in you pay taxes... But still apple here in switzerland is overpriced no matter what...
 
The increase in price of the rMBP (especially the 15" model) in Australia is disgusting. I will be boycotting all Apple products for a long time and I call upon other Australians to follow suit. The high-end 15" rMBP model is now $3499, absolute insanity.
 
What's the Real Reason?

To raise prices due to a strong dollar is disingenuous at best. Except for the Mac Pro, none of the products are made in the USA, and to top it off none of the money made overseas is brought back to the USA because of tax law. The dollar has no material affect on Apple's position.

Perhaps those foreign currencies get converted to the dollar for the income statement for the annual report. But the dollar is not affecting Apple's cost structure and will only affect the shareholders if and when the money is brought stateside.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think what most (European) people are complaining about is the overall cost difference including VAT what I believe has been calculated the wrong way several times now. So let me try:

Old Josef wants to buy a new MacBook (let's say in Germany). Now he has to pay 1449€ (EUR) (already including VAT.)

Old Jack now wants to buy the same new MacBook in the US. He has to pay $1299 (USD). At the counter he has to add VAT (~8%). That makes the MacBook cost 1299*1,08 = $1403,92 (USD)

Those $1402,92 (USD) convert at the actual exchange rate (of: 1€ (EUR) = $1,07 (USD)) to 1311,14€ (EUR)

Summarized: The new MacBook in the US for 1311,14€ is 137,86€ (EUR) or $147,51 (USD) cheaper to the one in Europe for the customer.

And that is the thing people in Europe complain about. (correctly as I feel with them)

markus

it is also more expensive in germany cuz every electronic device that could potentially store copyright protected material has to pay a fee. I think it's about 49€ on a laptop. the "gema" even gets monex for a printer cuz u could potentially use it to print out copyright protected lyrics and music notes. it's utterly redicioulus
 
How can the US dollar be doing so well vs the other currencies? I don't get it. The US has trillions of debt they have zero intention of paying pack and many other issues too. I guess the world just see's the USD as the standard currency which all other currencies are measured against.

This is a flawed standard. I think the Euro should be the global standard instead. The Yuan is used by more people but if that was the currency standard of the world, the Chinese government's corruption would really abuse this and the whole world would suffer. The US government is no better in this regard actually. No single person is to blame. Both sides of US politics don't understand what a proper budget is and how to not spend money you don't have. And any single person who does understand this gets their federal budget blocked by both of parliament. So only flawed budgets ever pass the US parliament.

Australia is no better. But here one side of politics the Coalition side (Liberal/National) totally understand how to bake budgets that help the whole nation. But they never seem to have enough numbers in the senate and the other parties who fail to understand what a good federal budget is keep blocking the good budgets. So only weak compromise budgets ever pass.

And folks that's why Apple has to raise prices around the world.

And because Tim Cook wants to do more of this:

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Exchange Rates fluctuate every-day, so i dunno why it is reported only now to say "keep in price with U.S dollar"

Could this be only because they want more money, but trying to hide this ? :apple:

They are trying to keep end user prices (including VAT/Sales taxes) in rough parity in order to discourage a black market.
 
Out of curiosity, did Apple raise wages for its staff around the world?
Legit question, I simply don't know, but I assume I'd have read about this by now on here? :confused:

Glassed Silver:mac

I do agree that the Apple retail workers do deserve a payrise.
But all the people who make the Apple products work for Foxconn and others. Apple does not pay their wages.
 
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