Couldn't you do any web languages that don't require compiling? I mean, I'm pretty sure you don't want to compile on an ARM processor...that's for sure.
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Apple Ranks Third in Global PC Sales With iPad Included
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Couldn't you do any web languages that don't require compiling? I mean, I'm pretty sure you don't want to compile on an ARM processor...that's for sure.
Because the ability to write programs is one of the primary reasons most people buy a PC? It's amazing how insignificant the reasons are that people are coming up with to disqualify the iPad from the PC market.
It's a fact that it competes in the PC market in the same segment as netbooks. It doesn't matter what you choose to call it. Any rational arguments to eliminate it from the analysis of the PC market would eliminate netbooks as well.
They are basing computing off screen size? Is a 5" UMPC running windows not a PC?
I say if the iPad is classified as a computer, so should the iPod Touch and iPhone. As they run the same OS, utilizing the same input technique (my grubby finger) and run large amounts of the same software, using similar processors and GPU's. Just because one is small and one is large does not negate the abilities of the products.
Think of Apples position then.
I say if the iPad is classified as a computer, so should the iPod Touch and iPhone. As they run the same OS, utilizing the same input technique (my grubby finger) and run large amounts of the same software, using similar processors and GPU's. Just because one is small and one is large does not negate the abilities of the products.
Think of Apples position then.
well i wouldn't say it can't be used for programming. i am sure if someone wrote a compiler for it you could. the calculator on the other hand can't play music in the background while you surf the web and read emails.
Not a pc
Once again I must say that the iPad is NOT A ****ING PC
Research firm Canalys today announced the release of its latest estimates of computer sales for the fourth quarter of 2010, showing Apple jumping to third place in worldwide market share at 10.8% when tablets such as the iPad are counted as computers.
With the iPad surging into the market, Canalys calculates Apple's unit shipment growth at 241% year-over-year to catapult the company from a 3.8% global share to its present 10.8% share that squeaks by Dell for third place behind HP and Acer.
In support of the inclusion of "pad" devices such as the iPad and Samsung's Galaxy Tab in its PC market numbers, Canalys argues that the definition of the PC has constantly been evolving and that tablet devices like the iPad do offer a true computing experience.Several reports showed Apple claiming third place in the global mobile computing market in earlier quarters, but the new Canalys report appears to be the first showing Apple attaining the position in the overall (notebook/desktop/server) market.
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Once again I must say that the iPad is NOT A ****ING PC
Because the ability to use device for writing/running programs is the most significant difference between toaster and personal computers. Nowadays some toasters have more powerful CPUs than iPad, does it make them PCs?
They aren't basing it on screen size. Without reading the whole report, the idea behind a market analysis is to determine the relationships between products that compete in that market. They didn't (well, shouldn't) just pick 5" screen size at random. Theoretically, their analysis of the market would have shown them that "media tablets" of a certain size (5" or less) do not have a significant impact on sales in the PC market.
It's not (supposed to be) just some random opinion of the definition of a PC.
I like how you switched goalposts there. Very clever. You went from "writing programs" to "writing/running programs" and pretended it was the same thing.
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not necessarily... you wouldn't go into the apple store looking to buy a basic computer and walk out with an ipod touch or an iphone, but you could possibly walk out buying an iPad.
i do agree that by no means would an iPad be your sole computer for all your computing needs. but instead of a second/third laptop or netbook you could buy an iPad.
I sure do. I wouldn't call doing *anything* on a postage stamp sized screen a revolution in usability. And teeny, tiny onscreen keyboard? Yeah. Ok. And navigation? A mouse works just as well as swiping your finger all over the screen.
Thank you for quoting the entire original post, graphics and all, for that one-line thread-hemorrhaging response. It was worth it, for such an original thought, surely one has not been brought and addressed over and over in this thread, and for one so thoughtfully stated, with your expert use of caps lock, and the word "****ING" so clearly illustrating the logic behind your cool, calm, and entirely rational claim.
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As the majority of people have said, including the iPad in the PC Sales is just silly. The iPad is not a PC, particularly as Apple still insists that you set it up, and sync it, with a real PC (Win or Mac). It seems that the Play Station is not included in Sony's number, despite the fact that I would argue that it is as close, or even closer, to a real PC as the iPad is. If the article had compared Mac sales to iPad sales, the it may be making a valid and interesting: iPads are selling remarkable well or Apple is now more an iPad/iPhone company than a Mac company, but this article if just pointless.
I do wonder where these stories come from. It often seem that they are just there to get Fan Bois excited and create hits for all the Mac media that report them.
I do wonder where these stories come from. It often seem that they are just there to get Fan Bois excited and create hits for all the Mac media that report them.
How about you read the thread and respond to the posts that explain why it is included? It's a market analysis, not an argument over the definition of PC.
I can feel your pain. Apple having more than 10 percent of computer sales world wide, that just has to hurt you so bad. As I said, I can feel your pain, but fortunately I don't share it
I thought the most significant difference between a toaster and a PC is that the toaster makes toast.
I thought the most significant difference between a toaster and a PC is that the toaster makes toast.
Actually, I've had some laptops (PC and Mac) that felt like they could easily toast some bread!
False.
There are currently at least 5 Basic interpreter apps available in the App store for the iPad. Plus Javascript is built in.
Plus, Apple's original Mac 128k did not ship with any programming language included. You had to compile programs for it on a Lisa. Microsoft started selling MSBasic for the Mac a few days later.
It can do that now after activation! Once it is activated, it magically transforms into a computer.
Or by "function," do you mean that it has to have over the air OS updates? Is that the real key feature that defines a computer to you?
The exact same thing was true about minicomputers, workstations, personal computers, luggable computers, laptops, netbooks and palmpilots. The iPad is less different that some of those other products from their predecessor computers, and far more powerful than two decades worth of top selling minicomputers (from DEC, Tandem, SGI, etc.)
I should have phase it better, I know it came from a market analysis and by including iPads as PC:
- Apple look great
- The story is on the front page of this, and other, sites.
- Every one get excited
- more publicity for the report.
I like how you switched goalposts there. Very clever. You went from "writing programs" to "writing/running programs" and pretended it was the same thing.
Programs are written to be run. Wyy else would you write them?
It is if you want to use your computing power while on the go. You can review and update your business spreadsheets while standing waiting for a taxi. Who wants to be stuck at some desk all day?
one more reason why iPad should not be counted as a PC.
The iPad is far from being a PC. Netbooks are pushing the limits but at least I can see the argument to count the netbook as a PC. It is still able and does run a full powered DESKTOP OS. It can do almost anything a desktop can. It biggest limitation is the processing power.
Honestly I am tempted to buy a netbook because I do need the desktop OS every now and then but my laptop is a lot of trouble to pack up and take with me. Netbooks are very small and can do almost everything I need while I am at school. Now it does not have the horse power to do some of the things that I need the processing power for but it has enough to do most.
iPad OS does not any were close OS I need. iPad is a large iPod touch in terms of what it can do in terms of work with out anything extra attach to it like a keyboard.
You do realize that needing to "activate Windows using Internet" is actually connecting it to another computer with specific software installed?
Tell you the truth you can activated windows with out ever connecting it to the internet. A little more trouble but still can easily be done. It is just a matter of making a simple phone call and then saying a string of numbers/letters and then you type in another string of number/letters.
String of numbers/letter you say into the phone is the hash key generated for windows from your computer based on hardware and what not. Return string based on that information. Windows is now activated. Takes a little longer but complete done threw an automated system. I have done it more than once.