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Can someone explain, why would a company with majority of its R&D spent in US, and purchase component from Global sources, need to pay Tax in France? And What % does it need to pay?
Well, without the French buying their stuff, Apple couldn’t generate any profits in France in the first place.
 
There's likely a deal in place for Apple to pay a token amount instead of the actual ~500m figure, otherwise any company in their right mind would pack up and leave instead - it would make more sense financially.

Still, even if it's only a fifth or even a tenth of what they should be paying, it's more than they ever paid and that's not a bad thing.
 
That answers how little Timmy Kook has been able to make Apple a profit. I'd make a lot more each year if I didn't pay my taxes to.
 
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There's likely a deal in place for Apple to pay a token amount instead of the actual ~500m figure, otherwise any company in their right mind would pack up and leave instead - it would make more sense financially.

Still, even if it's only a fifth or even a tenth of what they should be paying, it's more than they ever paid and that's not a bad thing.

Um, no. When you're found guilty of not paying taxes the option isn't to "pack up and leave". The next step is Apple having all their assets in France seized and arrest warrants being issued.
 
Yes, the big multinational corps get a tax advantage, and it's unfair. But this sounds ridiculous, like they've passed a law and applied it retroactively to Apple.
 
Someone has to be absolutely blind not to see the increased quality of materials used on the X models, particularly the display that the beloved Samsung sells to Apple on the highest price possible. Now if people use the gift that nature has given them (called a brain) and they do the math, they would realize that Apple by doing so it adds to the cost of the X versions. But it is like I said earlier, make a trash version of iPhone, dedicated only to moaners. sell it dirt cheap (much cheaper than iPhone XR but also much lower quality) and the world would be on pace ;)

Why so cocky?
 
Wasn't it Ireland who broke the EU laws by offering Apple the tax rates?

The fact that it was someone else that actually broke the law doesn't mean that the benefit you got from this is yours to keep. Is somebody robbed a bank and gave you $10.000, you're going to have to pay give that back if the authorities find out about where it came from.

I'm not sure how it where you are, but in the US everything is about deductions and loopholes when doing taxes (both personal and business). Apple would be remiss to it's shareholders if it paid more taxes then it had to.

The problem with that assertion is that these really were taxes they had to pay. We're not talking about Apple using a legal loophole, which the EU has been coming down on pretty hard over the last few years, what we are talking about is an illegal tax deal with the Irish government.

To use a U.S analogy it's a bit like states agreeing to allow people to make state tax deductions to their federal taxes based on made up state taxes they have no intention of actually collecting on (i.e helping people cheat the IRS).

If the entity charging the taxes doesn't like the loopholes or deductions, they are free to eliminate them. Retroactively charging people or companies for tax loopholes or deductions that were eliminated is wrong.

The issue with this is that they were violating the treaties they ratified when they joined the EEC, the predecessor of the EU, way back in 1973. Nothing about this is retroactive except the collection of the taxes they should have collected in the first place. This was not a loophole, it was a deal that broke treaties Ireland had singed and ratified decades earlier.

Also, one of the main points of the EU is to set up a common set of rules for everyone and in a framework like you simply can't decide which rules you want to follow and which ones you don't want to follow. If Ireland wants to leave the EU they're allowed to do so, but for quite a few reasons that would be economic suicide for them and thus they're obviously not going to do that.

To again use a U.S analogy: Ireland deciding they don't want to follow common EU rules they don't like is like Florida deciding to not follow or enforce federal laws they don't like.
 
Thanks. Out of the ~5 Quoted reply it become obvious most of the people doesn't have the faintest idea about tax. The problem is that assuming the value creation within France, as in Store and Distribution Centre etc is greater than the money deducted from its Operation. I.e If Apple US Sold iPhone XS to Apple France for $800; inclusive of IP, Apple France sell at Apple Store for $999, and $899 to wholesale and carrier. Apple France made roughly $99 - $199 per phone. These profits ( Gross Income ), once subtracted the rent of Apple Store, Operation Cost such as office and headcount become Zero.

How do you tax against Zero Profits? Because from what I am understanding a lot of people are arguing for either Tax against Gross Income, or Tax against Revenue.
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I am sorry not only it is not "exaggerated" it was flat out wrong. Although you may not read it on the news some shareholders actually complains about Apple being too "good" on its own country's tax code, when it has tools to paid a lot less. The Apple Annual Report is one of the easier to read out of all the Mega Corp, and they are not hiding much. ( Apart from Unit Sales )
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I am not aware Apple missing a single dollar ( of Pounds ) of UK VAT. Which is included in every purchase of UK's Apple product.

I never said they did
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Isn't that the tax consumers pay not the corporate tax Apple pays?
There is really no difference. Just two different way of calculating it. What you pay - what Apple retains = tax
 
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