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Let's have it in November!!!!!! This is precisely what I and hundreds of thousands of others on the side line are waiting for.

Can at&t handle it? Maybe a CDMA iPad and iPhone 4 announcement late Nov with 4.2? Available in Jan. Maybe even November. :apple:
 
camera needed?

..iPad craze took over, it started selling like hot cakes even without a camera.
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Q: When was the last time you used the camera on your MacBook (whatever)?

Apple knows what it's doing. A camera will only be a significant asset when it becomes compelling and common to use one. Otherwise it's just bloat, another tick on the salesman's feature list.
 
I knew this would come to iPad which is why I am waiting for one with a camera! Hopefully before Christmas.
 
This post makes no sense. I bought an iPad day one. I love it and use it every day. If I followed your advice and waited for 2nd gen I would be without something so incredibly useful in my life for an entire year!

I can simply sell my iPad if I really want 2nd gen. Who cares?

iOS 4 is coming out for the iPad a good 5 months before the next gen comes out. That is lots of time! There is nothing missing from my iPad other than that. I see nothing about it that is "beta" or anything like that.

Please stop these pointless posts.

Ditto.
 
a lesson to you all , NEVER BUY 1ST GENERATION APPLE PRODUCTS

as they haven't had enough real world testing and are too expensive with things missing that are later added by Apple (such as 3G to the iphone, sd card slot to macbooks/imacs, ios 4 to ipad, a working antenna to the iphone 4, blu -ray(?) and now a camera to the ipad).

Wait until 2nd Generation and look in amusement at the cool kids/wanna-be celebs lay down their rent money for the Apple product of the month.

I love my 1st gen iPad. I will love my 2nd gen ipad. My 1st gen will find a good home with my daughter (who uses it more than me anyway), and I've been able to enjoy it for a year.

Exactly why should I have bought a 1st gen apple product? It's not defective or anything, but of course a newer/better/shiny-er version will come out. It's called 'progress' :)
 
I regret taking back my iPad every day lately. As a university student, the iPad truly is a God send with a add on keyboard. Light, compact, and long lasting battery life is reason enough to buy one. I'll probably soon switch to a Mac Mini/ iPad combo. I'm holding out for the 2nd Gen now, and I'll be there at midnight for sure.
 
Give me retina display and 512MB of RAM and I'll buy one immediately. (That's assuming there's not an Android tablet in as slick a form factor with better specs)

Still happy with my decision to return my iPad after two weeks. I just didn't need it enough to deal with the shortcomings.

No way are you seeing a retina display in a large device. Having the same ppi of 326 would equate to a resolution of about 3600 x 1700 in an iPad sized display. I haven't seen anything like this in just about any factor. Looks like you aren't going to have an iPad.
 
Why? This is 5-6 months away still. Sounds like you are going to be without an iPad for half a year. You probably could have kept it for another 4+ months and still got a lot of money for it.

Ummm, really? Think about it - when will an older used version sell for more money - 5-6 months before the new version with a camera is coming out and before most folks (who don't frequent the rumor sites) even know about it? Or a month before when more folks are aware and can stand to wait 4 more weeks for a pretty useful feature. Before you question someone else's actions, perhaps you could think it through yourself first.
 
Having your tabs in Safari not reload every time you switch to one is function.

Bump! Most annoying feature of the iPad. It's maddening if the way you surf the web is to open multiple pages from the site you're on, only to try and read them later and have to watch every one reload.


No way are you seeing a retina display in a large device. Having the same ppi of 326 would equate to a resolution of about 3600 x 1700 in an iPad sized display. I haven't seen anything like this in just about any factor. Looks like you aren't going to have an iPad.

If true, that's a bummer. The resolution on the iPad was noticeably low when I owned one. (Not distractingly so, but you could tell.) After having the iPhone 4 it'd be very tough to go back to that. I look at my wife's 3GS and the low resolution really stands out.
 
I certainly hope this is true. I would love to have FaceTime on my iPad.

I am sure of that. Some of the strip downs of the first iPad's showed an internal molding frame that made room for a cell-phone like camera component. I wouldn't be suprised if FaceTime was working on the iPad first (perhaps as much as four years ago.)

However, Steve wanted it rolled out with the iPhone 4 since he felt that handheld video conferencing would make more of a splash than tablet-based video conferencing.

The iPad form factor was enough of a splash and they didn't want to do another trick with the audience already in applause. This is an example of the old P.T. Barnum rule, "When the audience is in fanfare immediately wind down the show and save the rest for the next pass through town."

It is now the next "pass through town" and the camera is the next trick to show.
 
I am sure of that. Some of the strip downs of the first iPad's showed an internal molding frame that made room for a cell-phone like camera component. I wouldn't be suprised if FaceTime was working on the iPad first (perhaps as much as four years ago.)

This is incorrect, the part you are thinking of was determined to be the spot for the proximity sensor, not a camera.

There is no doubt that FaceTime is coming though, but I will be curious to see how the implement it. They certainly aren't going to just slap a camera on the front in some random spot, it something that takes a lot of consideration.
 
You have to love Apple's use of planned obsolescence. :(

You mean the same thing every company does that makes electronics? It's not planned obsolescence so much as straight up technological improvements over time.

People keep thinking that the first iPad could have had FaceTime, but they don't consider the fact that the software clearly wasn't ready at the time (the iPod Touch only just now got it). Lets also not forget that FaceTime on an iPad will have different software requirements, because the whole "hold the iPad any way you want" has to work perfectly with the camera, and since the iPad is bigger that might cause problems in terms of perspective changes.

But of course people don't think like engineers, they think like consumers. "Derrrrrp GIVE MEH CAMERAH"
 
Yeah I know Steve Jobs mentioned that FaceTime will be standardized but let's look at the facts:
He said FaceTime will work on 3G by the end of this year providing the networks cooperate. Also, by the time FaceTime becomes a well supported standard that works across all platforms the iPad will be in its 3rd generation. I just don't see this happening anytime in the near future.

Who did Apple do a deal with on the iOS name?
Who could use pushes for net neutrality to make their Corporate Customers their own phone company?
Who could use Facetime public momentum to drive their own agenda?

I'm sure Cisco are the so far silent partner in Facetime. It would give them a lot of up sell opportunities in the corp. world and let them more widely service demand for video conference and calls which in turn pushes up bandwidth demands and demands on equipment. Plus even as voice only Facetime sets up a back infrastructure to link callers via an email style address instead on a phone number. Giving them more leverage against phone companies who are holding on to the number system tightly.

FaceTime on an iPad becomes interesting when you start to think about more than 2 people in the conference. You now have the screen space to have face time views of two or three other people so if one person is in a conference with a couple the person calling in can have close up face shots. The caller could select who he wants to watch up of the group just like if they where in the room.

The corporate side is what will really drive facetime as the video calling standard for that Apple really does need some one like Cisco on the team.
 
I think there will be a new ipad before christmas. Just my 2 cents. Going to apple.com right now there is itunes 10 on the front page, this probably change, but, there is not 1 thing ipad on there. You go into a apple store and it seems 50% or more is nothing but ipads.

This is their baby right now, they may want to get another out with all of the things people are waiting for to get a early jump on the competition so people will not look elsewhere.

Plus I just want a ipad with facetime.:)
 
I think there will be a new ipad before christmas. Just my 2 cents. Going to apple.com right now there is itunes 10 on the front page, this probably change, but, there is not 1 thing ipad on there. You go into a apple store and it seems 50% or more is nothing but ipads.

This is their baby right now, they may want to get another out with all of the things people are waiting for to get a early jump on the competition so people will not look elsewhere.

Plus I just want a ipad with facetime.:)

Um the reason the front page has nothing on iPads is because they just released new iPods. Also that logic doesn't even work, if they were coming out with new iPads wouldn't they have them advertised all over the place and not just on the store? They would want to get rid of inventory as much as possible.

They are selling over 3 million iPads a month and it's not slowing down at all, it is likely to have a HUGE holiday season, and you think they are really are worried about competition? Don't make me laugh, you clearly have no clue what the "competition" really is. Also why would they risk a weaker holiday season by chancing supply issues to try to meet demand? This is why Apple prefers to release their flagship stuff in the beginning of the year, and their cheaper (easier to mass produce, ie. iPods) products before the holiday rush. By the time the holidays roll around, the flagship stuff has all it's supply issues worked out so they can sell tons during the holidays and have the next gen stuff ready for the next year.

Based on that logic of "competition" they should come out with a new iPhone too right?

It sounds like your desire to want a new iPad with FaceTime is clouding your judgement of what the market really is like right now.
 
No way are you seeing a retina display in a large device. Having the same ppi of 326 would equate to a resolution of about 3600 x 1700 in an iPad sized display. I haven't seen anything like this in just about any factor. Looks like you aren't going to have an iPad.

You obviously don't understand what a retina display is. :rolleyes:
 
honestly I have never used facetime on the Iphone .. Never. Why would I need it for the Ipad?

there will always be a faster processor, better display, etc .... who cares.

All you suckers who don't have an Ipad now missed out. I've thoroughly enjoyed mine for the past 5-6 months since it came out. Something I have sued everyday.
 
how much testing is needed to put a camera in there? also, why would anyone buy an ipad? nobody needs one. it doesnt print. it doesnt have a camera. or a usb port. or an hdmi port. or a lot of ram. or a telephone. or multiple carriers. or good games. its not a good ebook reader. the os doesnt have as much functionality as android.

really, whats the point? is it just for people who feel like droppin a lot of money on a big ipod touch?
 
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