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Apple Readying New FaceTime Equipped iPads?
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I've been tempted to get an iPad ever since I played with one, was originally skeptical. But they really are great. But I think I'll be waiting for the second gen now.
Facetime would function much more appropriately on a 7" iPad. And gaming would be absolutely perfect at that size as well. Other remote-like apps would do pretty well too. However, music-making, sketching, productivity, web browsing & reading apps would all suffer incrementally (reading not as much as the rest).
Facetime on a 10" iPad seems strange to me.
Facetime on a 10" iPad seems strange to me.
Haha. Your math also failed. 8 mo x ~30 days/mo =~240 days x $0.50/day should be ~$120.
Yes it failed completely
I was replying to someone's Tweet at the same time and was not paying attention to either of my posts so technically I also fail at multitasking 
I'm gonna keep my original iPad and buy a new one.
I did the same with my 1st-gen iPod kept it when I bought a new one. I still have it (the 1st-gen one), though I've given or most of the subsequent iPods I've purchased (except for my 1st-generation nano, which I still use for its Nike+ function).
I'm not exactly an Apple collector, though I do like the few "museum" pieces I've held on to (1st-gen iPod, 1st-gen nano, and a PowerBook 2400, which is what I started my company on.)
Yeah, FaceTime everything. I want FaceTime in my Car, on my computer, on the TV, and everywhere else.
I can see Apple updating the iPad quickly. It sure needs the camera. A bump in memory would be nice too.
The iPod Touch seems to be stuck on 64Gb on the high end. We won't see the other products get bumped up until the iPod Touch's max goes to 128Gb.
I can see Apple updating the iPad quickly. It sure needs the camera. A bump in memory would be nice too.
The iPod Touch seems to be stuck on 64Gb on the high end. We won't see the other products get bumped up until the iPod Touch's max goes to 128Gb.
obsoletepower said:Yes it failed completely
That's when you need to use the iPad since it can't multitask so it'll prevent you from multitasking.
I have considered this before, and heard the idea tossed around. While I think the concept is great, the biggest problem is that the iPad is too big for this kind of thing. What are you going to do? Hold the iPad up awkwardly while you look at the overlay? It just doesn't work because the iPad is predominately pointed up/down for comfort reasons. I think the kind of thing you want would make more sense if the iPad was 5 or 7 inches, but not 9. So maybe if they came out with a smaller one the rear camera would work, but it is just stupid to have on the current one.
Besides, you are still speaking about something that is very niche at the moment, if those kind of uses were extremely popular it wouldn't even be a debate. The obvious future for this stuff are some sort of glasses that can do augemented reality, not something you hold in your hand.
Gotta love the early adopters and beta testers
Beta tester? How.
I've got a 64gig 3G, it's amazing, does everything i wanted it to do - zero problems. It's about to get an upgrade to make it do even more. For free.
So what's with this rubbish about early adopters? I also had a bondi blu imac a first gen iPod, an external iSight camera. All amazing products.
my first gen iPhone, my first gen 27" iMac - all perfect from the off.
Holding off til the next gen because it will have more features is sort of stupid. There will always be upgrades, doesn't invalidate the first iteration of a product in any way.
I reckon you should wait until 2018 until you buy your ipod, at that point it will fold up and fit in your pocket and work as a teleport device...
We've yet to see this camera, if the next gen has one, I won't be purchasing it - I can't have a camera like that at work.
There's no need for SD or USB connection, this isn't a wired device, it's a wireless one - focussed on portability. There are adapters for those who see this as a must have, but i gather sales of the camera connection kit have been tiny and sales of iPad have been huge - so what does that tell you?
Gotta have BOTH. Mistake to skip first gen, and a mistake to skip second gen. You have to have been enjoying iPad since day one, and then not even flinch when gen two comes out and buy that as well. Seamless.
Fun part? I'm serious.
Fun part? I'm serious.
Oh I agree, completely. I've been enjoying my iPad since day one, and I'll enjoy the 2nd generation from day 1, too. Looks like I'm a winner.
You say that like it's a bad thing or a new thing. You buy a device because it's fit for purpose. WHen you can no longer update it, it won't suddenly stop working, it's still the same device.
Apple give more followup support (do you mean backwards compatibility) to their devices than any other company i know. Leopard will run on machines 3/4 years old - can you say the same about windows 7?
Apart from anything else, how many windoze boxes do you know that last 6/7 + years, i've got all of my previous macs up and running and working fine, if they're not here then they're in good homes. Hell, I've got an LC II which a friends mum uses, running 7.5 and it's still a great little machine.
Hell, i've got and HTC Hero and it won't even run Android 2, and that's less than 8 months old.
Don't care. I will buy an iPad only when Canon will release an app for remote controlling theirs DSRL cameras via USB port.
anybody who waits for the second-gen faces a whole new curse: the second gen! And seventeenth-gen buyers are stuck being the early adopters when everyone gets the eighteenth gen
There's a clever term or phrase meaning the feeling engendered by not being able to get the latest cool product unboxed and turned on before it's been rendered obsolete.
Can't think of it right now, my mind sticks on "future shock," which isn't it, but y'all know what I mean.
Still, since my iBook no longer hibernates and restarts even when turned off off, think I will finally be ordering the next (however minor) rev of the MB Pro rumored to be coming shortly. Nonetheless, not being a constant upgrader/migrator, think a facetime cam in the next Pad's such a no-brainer prediction, I will wait for that. Even tho' knowing I'll miss the seductive additions in at least rev 3 and 4.
Ya watches yer trends and ya makes yer choices.
Better wait until the final revision then, you don't wanna miss out. In that case, don't buy a car yet either - there will be new versions out any time soon...
I find most people who want a camera on the iPad don't own one and have no long term experience of using one.
A camera on an iPad would be useless unless it's on a desk stand, otherwise, the other person is looking up your nose - it's not a nice angle to be viewed from.
By the time you've got this on a table top on a stand with a blue tooth keyboard nearby you might as well be on your laptop/desktop.
Otherwise it's an ergonomic nightmare.
Not needed, and if they do include it, I do hope it doesn't push up the price point too much.
Why is it?
I bought the iPad knowing there would be a new model/revision out in 12 months or so. That's the nature of buying electronics - hell a lot of companies have much quicker product revisions...
When the new iPad comes out, my current one won't suddenly stop doing what I bought it for...
Does nobody understand how consumer electronics work? Does nobody see that every company in the world has product revisions? It's like apple are the only company who revise their products every year or so and that this is somehow evil.
There are some stupid comments from some very stupid people on this topic.
Beta iPhone 4 customers? Why what's wrong with my iPhone 4 - it works perfectly - best phone i've ever had with best battery life and best signal, so I'm guessing there was beta testing before this product was released. Don't believe everything you read in the press.
A camera on an iPad would be useless unless it's on a desk stand, otherwise, the other person is looking up your nose - it's not a nice angle to be viewed from.
By the time you've got this on a table top on a stand with a blue tooth keyboard nearby you might as well be on your laptop/desktop.
Otherwise it's an ergonomic nightmare.
Not needed, and if they do include it, I do hope it doesn't push up the price point too much.
Why is it?
I bought the iPad knowing there would be a new model/revision out in 12 months or so. That's the nature of buying electronics - hell a lot of companies have much quicker product revisions...
When the new iPad comes out, my current one won't suddenly stop doing what I bought it for...
Does nobody understand how consumer electronics work? Does nobody see that every company in the world has product revisions? It's like apple are the only company who revise their products every year or so and that this is somehow evil.
There are some stupid comments from some very stupid people on this topic.
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I almost feel as bad for iPad owners as I do for the beta iPhone4 owners. At least the iPad owners aren't stuck in a dead end contract.
You should have known something was up when that big iPad was less powerful than a PHONE. Duh people! I guess some peoples like to buy billionaire Steve new Mercedes. Just mail him the check directly next time.
Beta iPhone 4 customers? Why what's wrong with my iPhone 4 - it works perfectly - best phone i've ever had with best battery life and best signal, so I'm guessing there was beta testing before this product was released. Don't believe everything you read in the press.
Wow man, take it easy....I'm using the iPad on a daily basis with AC-7 Pro in my studio, wonderful device as it is.
There's some legitimacy to the reasons for not buying a first generation product from Apple but it's not as strong as it used to be. I think Apple have serious improved the quality of their release products.
A while ago now, when generations of computers didn't change so comprehensively (and so quickly) products were released and revised. It used to be that you avoided buying a Rev A product from Apple because there were a lot of bugs that would be significantly improved in Rev B. Even though the products were basically the same because technological innovation and implementation happened at a slower rate.
These days the products are released relatively bug free, if at all. I was confident to get both a Rev A G5 iMac and i7 iMac in their first iterations and haven't been disappointed.
It's features that make the difference now. First gen products are usually missing a couple of things that come later, even if the design clearly shows that they had those things in mind already. It's like cars, in order to keep people buying new cars, features are introduced over time for incentive.
I would buy any gen iPad without a camera, I have FaceTime on my phone and Skype on my iMac and laptop. There's hardly a shortage of devices with cameras these days.
What I'm more interested in, other than features I rarely use, are features that I would be using everytime I used the device, like a retina display.
I don't think early adopters of the iPad are fools, it's a perfectly usable device that works very nicely. But I won't be ready until it has the display that I really enjoy on the iPhone. I always felt that way, btw, because reading on the kindle is easy on the eyes and I wanted to see how Apple was going to adress that.
It's weird though, seeing that whole Rev A/ Rev B thing start to disappear. A bit of nostalgia.
A while ago now, when generations of computers didn't change so comprehensively (and so quickly) products were released and revised. It used to be that you avoided buying a Rev A product from Apple because there were a lot of bugs that would be significantly improved in Rev B. Even though the products were basically the same because technological innovation and implementation happened at a slower rate.
These days the products are released relatively bug free, if at all. I was confident to get both a Rev A G5 iMac and i7 iMac in their first iterations and haven't been disappointed.
It's features that make the difference now. First gen products are usually missing a couple of things that come later, even if the design clearly shows that they had those things in mind already. It's like cars, in order to keep people buying new cars, features are introduced over time for incentive.
I would buy any gen iPad without a camera, I have FaceTime on my phone and Skype on my iMac and laptop. There's hardly a shortage of devices with cameras these days.
What I'm more interested in, other than features I rarely use, are features that I would be using everytime I used the device, like a retina display.
I don't think early adopters of the iPad are fools, it's a perfectly usable device that works very nicely. But I won't be ready until it has the display that I really enjoy on the iPhone. I always felt that way, btw, because reading on the kindle is easy on the eyes and I wanted to see how Apple was going to adress that.
It's weird though, seeing that whole Rev A/ Rev B thing start to disappear. A bit of nostalgia.
I enjoy my first gen iPad enormously and to be honest, I don't need a camera on it. I have an old iPhone 3gs for taking photo's and short films and I don't see a need to FaceTime. I haven only used the camera on my macbook once or twice and that was just to test it. I'm not missing it all. But it is good to have the option, I guess.
Oh I agree, completely. I've been enjoying my iPad since day one, and I'll enjoy the 2nd generation from day 1, too. Looks like I'm a winner.
Exactly!
I bought one that my wife and I share. When version two comes out next year the wife will inherit the first generation and the second generation will be mine. If you spend all your time waiting for the next model you'd never buy anything.
Personally I want this to happen BEFORE Christmas.
There is someone who I would like to buy an iPad for as a Christmas gift, but no way am I paying full price for an iPad for them when I know in perhaps 4 months it's going to drop in value big time due to the new model.
Either I will buy them something else, or just get them a token gift and say I shall buy them their main gift in a few months time.
IMHO you would have to be crazy to buy a current model iPad at Christmas with the new model on the horizon with Facetime.
There is someone who I would like to buy an iPad for as a Christmas gift, but no way am I paying full price for an iPad for them when I know in perhaps 4 months it's going to drop in value big time due to the new model.
Either I will buy them something else, or just get them a token gift and say I shall buy them their main gift in a few months time.
IMHO you would have to be crazy to buy a current model iPad at Christmas with the new model on the horizon with Facetime.
If you've got an iPhone 4 or iPod touch 4g, FaceTime on the iPad would be so pointless. Don't see why people are so excited about it unless they don't own a FaceTime device. Another one of Apple's money making schemes.