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Apple Reassures Siri Team Members Feeling Disappointed and Embarrassed by Apple Intelligence Delay

They should feel embarrassed & ashamed by their quite frankly awful and shameful work so far. If they are the best Apple can find then Apple really needs to look at their recruitment criteria.

The blame is also on Apple for ignoring the industry AI demand and being so far behind. Work should have started many years ago. It’s clear that “Apple Intelligence” it’s still in its infancy while the competition zooms off into the distance with relatively mature offerings.

The whole Apple Intelligence effort so far is a sh*t stain on the company & brand.
 
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I7guy said:
As abazigal said, he’s the best all around tech ceo. No matter if some MR posters or pundits who make their money through clickbait headlines criticize his performance.
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Spot-on. Apple's 2+ Billion active and repeat customers are testament to that. And that Apple is one of the most successful tech companies in the world.
 
apple employees feeling disappointed and embarrassed by apple intelligence delays:

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"demonstrated ‌Siri‌ locating his driver's license number"
This is utter BS. I used to work for a company called Scandit. They had this technology on the iPhone over 3 years ago. So Apple is still lying about Siri.
 
It’s not entirely the employees fault. They started out working on a more simple assistant, Apple management kept the team smaller and let Siri languish for years. Then for years top companies and startups were all working on a much more advanced AI behind the scenes. Those in the loop saw all of this coming. Apple management didn’t prioritize it, and then they suddenly realized they were behind and poured more money into getting the talent they needed. Those are the people who started well behind, and it doesn’t help that management set unreasonable goals and decided to market software that wasn’t even close to ready yet. Apple did this to themselves by setting unrealistic expectations after not skating to where the puck would be.

The past two months I’ve had chatGPT teaching me how to make apps. I never had the time before and found myself laid off right before the holidays. It is so good and I love that I can just pick Xcode from the dropdown and it can follow along with what I’m doing and I can ask questions about selected blocks of code and it can help me with tricky logic or help me identify the source of a bug so much faster. The o3-mini-high model is amazing for programming and logic. I have a full iOS, iPadOS, and tvOS game that I’m hoping to launch in the coming weeks, and I’ve never had so much fun working on a project in my life. Idk if it would’ve been possible without AI giving me a boost!
 
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jgrove said:
Some of the comments here don’t take into account the human impact of working for Apple.

It seems that Apple puts huge pressure on the software teams to get features out of the door, to line up with new hardware releases.

This is due to the every year hardware refresh, meaning new software across a range of products, it’s unnecessary and only done as Apple maintains its profit margins.

Software from Apple has been poor for a long while, largely because the teams are not given the time needed to get it working in a way that meets quality control.

I feel for the teams that clearly wanted to get it working, even after they told Apple it might not be ready for the gravy train hardware refresh.
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The problem is more than the software team. The hardware (iPhone) side has also been stagnating for years, so they have to rely on software to sell the year’s new shiny.

Don’t get me wrong, same thing but slightly faster (takes slightly better photos counts in the same category) is not going to drive many sales
 
karnac said:
They need to just release it.
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So you think Apple releasing their AI that doesn't work as advertised is a better idea than waiting until it is ready? You think that would be better for the consumer, and for the brand? Can you imagine the reaction in the market and in these forums?

And people say Cook is a bad CEO. If Apple was led the way some folks here want it led, it would implode in a month.
 
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Dark_Omen said:
Not even close. Apple would not exist today if Tim were the one to handle Apple’s near bankruptcy way back when Jobs took over.
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How do you know? Look I respect what Jobs did for Apple and give him credit for being a great visionary, but the revisionist history of Jobs legacy since his death has really gotten out of hand. Jobs may have had great ideas, but it was Steve Wozniak and others that were the true brains behind most of the early products that launched Apple into relevance.

From almost all accounts, and most of the people that worked with Jobs early on in his career, he was not much of an engineer. Jobs was a great face for the company. He was more articulate than Wozniak and most of the other engineers who were actually building Apple.

Jobs was a master at manipulating the media and getting them to fashion just the right angle to the story that he was pushing. He was more than anything a great salesman and he was able to use a well put together team of engineers to sale his vision. But he most certainly didn't do it alone.

Jobs should be given credit for his role in helping make Apple the most successful tech company in the world, but he shouldn't be given all the credit.
 
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Lounge vibes 05 said:
OK, well let’s be fair here, Catalina was an operating system from almost 6 years ago.
Expecting any operating system that’s five versions ago and hasn’t even been supported in a security capacity for three years to play nice with today’s very different macOS just isn’t realistic.
Even during the early days of OS X, it’s not like you could go from 10.2 jaguar straight to 10.5 Leopard and expect everything to work perfectly, back then most people recommended clean installs for all of the new updates either way.
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I get what you’re saying but Photos is an app, not core OS. And how did they manage to make my photos take up more space? The point is that it’s sloppy.
 
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macduke said:
It’s not entirely the employees fault. They started out working on a more simple assistant, Apple management kept the team smaller and let Siri languish for years. Then for years top companies and startups were all working on a much more advanced AI behind the scenes. Those in the loop saw all of this coming. Apple management didn’t prioritize it, and then they suddenly realized they were behind and poured more money into getting the talent they needed. Those are the people who started well behind, and it doesn’t help that management set unreasonable goals and decided to market software that wasn’t even close to ready yet. Apple did this to themselves by setting unrealistic expectations after not skating to where the puck would be.

The past two months I’ve had chatGPT teaching me how to make apps. I never had the time before and found myself laid off right before the holidays. It is so good and I love that I can just pick Xcode from the dropdown and it can follow along with what I’m doing and I can ask questions about selected blocks of code and it can help me with tricky logic or help me identify the source of a bug so much faster. The o3-mini-high model is amazing for programming and logic. I have a full iOS, iPadOS, and tvOS game that I’m hoping to launch in the coming weeks, and I’ve never had so much fun working on a project in my life. Idk if it would’ve been possible without AI giving me a boost!
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Good luck with your game release! I hope you keep us updated!
 
I7guy said:
And Apple wouldn’t be as popular with such a diverse range of products if Steve had to move the company forward. One hypothetical begets another.
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Uh, what?

He came out with the iPad, iPhone, MacBook Air, iPod, and I believe he was the one that actually had plans for the watch.

Unless you mean “diverse” as in, have 4 different iPhone types with several different colors, 100 different iPad models, and 100 different watch models. In that case, simplicity was better than the fragmentation that exists now.
 
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digimc said:
How do you know? Look I respect what Jobs did for Apple and give him credit for being a great visionary, but the revisionist history of Jobs legacy since his death has really gotten out of hand. Jobs may have had great ideas, but it was Steve Wozniak and others that were the true brains behind most of the early products that launched Apple into relevance.

From almost all accounts, and most of the people that worked with Jobs early on in his career, he was not much of an engineer. Jobs was a great face for the company. He was more articulate than Wozniak and most of the other engineers who were actually building Apple.

Jobs was a master at manipulating the media and getting them to fashion just the right angle to the story that he was pushing. He was more than anything a great salesman and he was able to use a well put together team of engineers to sale his vision. But he most certainly didn't do it alone.

Jobs should be given credit for his role in helping make Apple the most successful tech company in the world, but he shouldn't be given all the credit.
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Tim isn’t a visionary, so how would have Apple developed a strong revenue stream when they were on the verge of bankruptcy?
 
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Dark_Omen said:
Uh, what?

He came out with the iPad, iPhone, MacBook Air, iPod, and I believe he was the one that actually had plans for the watch.

Unless you mean “diverse” as in, have 4 different iPhone types with several different colors, 100 different iPad models, and 100 different watch models. In that case, simplicity was better than the fragmentation that exists now.
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That’s not what I said about growing the company. And to be fair, it’s your opinion regarding fragmentation. That’s one thing time does well. Give the customers what they want. Steve’s I’ll tell what you want, what you really want won’t fly today.
 
brofkand said:
If they believe that Siri is the world‘s greatest personal assistant, that’s part of the problem. Apple has not shipped good software in years.

It doesn’t sound like this is ever going to ship, let’s be honest. And that’s probably for the best because it will never work. The only part of Apple Intelligence that’s actually useful is the part that is outsourced to open AI.
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Yeah. They are going to completely cancel this and use some other AI instead. Apple just doesn’t have what it takes to create software like that. People don’t understand Apple can’t create it because of their culture about privacy. literally the llm is about scrapping every bit of info, apple can’t do that.
 
I7guy said:
Tim isn’t going anywhere no matter how many people on Macrumors say it.
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He will. AI will be the doom of Apple. They won’t be able to recover from this, this is the iPhone moment the competitors experienced in 2007. I give them 3 years for people to realize it. Every phone will be coming with their groundbreaking AI except for Apple
 
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