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I think the that when electric cars become main stream, they will quickly become highly commoditized with low margins, like televisions; so I can see why Apple may wish to avoid that particular market. But Apple can still contribute like they are doing with AppleTV and HomeKit, ResearchKit etc...

Apple's go to market strategy may include an automotive platform including the software framework and related key components technologies such as coherent navigation technologies and power management technologies. The same way HomeKit can have all your home appliances collaborating, CarKit and related protocols compliant automobiles will be able to collaborate on the roads for safety and traffic flow advantages.

Apple is already dealing with virtually all auto makers with CarPlay where each auto maker integrate some Apple Technologies in their infotainment systems. That can eventually be extended to a core framework that allows customization and differentiation while providing vital core technologies for the auto industry.

Note that Apple has already trademarked the term Iris Engine and Iris Picture Engine, these engines could be to recognize live 3D objects like pedestrians, cyclists and other vehicles and 2D images such as road signs respectively. Apple is also working very hard on camera technologies that could compete with MobileEye technologies.

Imagine your car inside your garage first telling your garage door to open up and then telling other protocol compliant cars that it see in the driveway to move so that it can get out. :)

Time will tell.
 
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When you find a bug in iOS or OS X you could just ignore it or find a workaround.

How are you gonna deal with Apple's bugs in a self-driving car from Apple?

And you believe the typical car manufacturers are better in writing software? Well, so far we know that VW/Bosch can write software that cheats, Tesla's software thinks that a truck is a sign and lets users ignore crucial safety rules, and today GM recalls 4.3 million vehicles worldwide for a software defect.

But otherwise I hope this rumor is true. I don't see Apple making cars. Just as well they could make washing machines and container ships and that sounds too much like Samsung.

If they really want a car, then just use some of that offshore money and buy Tesla. Elon Musk would even make a good presenter for Apple products on the next keynote. Elon and Steve in one company would not have worked but Elon and Tim would probably work.
 
So basically Google had it right for a while then. Rather than developing a car it's better to work on the technology behind the car and work with partners interested in the technology.
 
So you bought an Apple Watch which you thought was ugly to Begin with, only to hope Apple would create a less ugly Watch?

The round variant will be here eventually. Here are my thoughts. Elon Musk, from Tesla, made an interesting comment when the Watch debuted last year. He said "The Apple Watch isn't there yet, it will be, by version three."

That's in short, not a direct quote. But he is correct, the Apple Watch is an evolving product. I believe Apple wanted to see the demographic being how new and upcoming the Smart Watch market is moving. I'm thinking by Version Three, the Watch will be redesigned, adding a round variant, fully waterproof, micro-OLED, LTE, independent from
The iPhone entirely, ect...

The point is, you disparage the Watch, which in terms we need to allow the Watch to mature and evolve more. Gen 2 of the Watch was a decent upgrade, minus the physical characteristics, which I can appreciate. It's a slow process, but it will evolve, just like the iPad, iPhone and Mac Line.

Yup... SLOW process indeed.
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That mentality is why you're not running a worthwhile business. Any opinion on Elon's rocket explosion?
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It was pretty clearly because of the way text is presented. If you think it's so ugly why on earth would you spend your money on one?
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Whine whine whine as if you can somehow solve the battery problem that no one else can. Entitled much?


I said ugly? Are you putting words in my mouth? I said after a year a half you'd think it would be thinner and then I made a side comment about a circular watch face. iPad 1 vs iPad 2. One year apart. iPad 2 was thinner, lighter, faster, etc. It was the good old days. You consider what I'm saying is "whining." I guess that's one way to look at it. Another way is "he's right, what on earth have the Apple people been doing slacking on the Mac, slacking on the iPad, now slacking on the iPhone and watch?"
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Oh no! 1 millimeter thicker and slightlier heavier, which is highly unlikely the user would not notice, because of a larger battery which supports a more powerful S2 Chip and GPS integrated, with more water proofing and brighter display. Sure, the Apple Watch is slightly thick, but coming from a stainless steel owner, I'm loving every second of it with the weight and heft.

Those are substantial upgrades, which hopefully will lead to a round variant, thinner display by Version 3. Comparing the Watch to an iPad is entirely different. The Watch is not groundbreaking by any means, but the smart watch market is unstable until it defines a true calling. Some appreciate the fitness features, others use the Watch strictly for notifications.

I'm also guessing you don't own or have used the Apple Watch based off your original comment, which, if this is the case, you have no grounds to bash it.


You're in the minority and making a fool of yourself. The watch needs to be thinner and needs to have more great features. Are you saying this is it? The watch is done and is perfect? LOL
 
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Can't say that I'm surprised, I don't think Apple really knows what they want. Now that self driving cars are the in thing, they're jumping on the bandwagon.

I'd like to see more of these Apple reboots.
but the reason why I bought an apple was that it didn't reboot as much :eek:

:p
 
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Perhaps the lack of definition of the project caused the problems? I've been involved in many projects that had "soggy" definitions and deliverables.

I have always been surprised that the speculation has been around Apple producing a whole vehicle. That's really a huge leap across sectors; wayyyy beyond there usual horizontal intrrgranation backwards! I always imagined a tie in with another manufacturer or a re-badging at best. Similar to the new Nike Apple watch or simply an extension of Carplay?

I like the idea of an Apple car; but somehow . . . .


Can't say that I'm surprised, I don't think Apple really knows what they want. Now that self driving cars are the in thing, they're jumping on the bandwagon.


but the reason why I bought an apple was that it didn't reboot as much :eek:

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Yup... SLOW process indeed.
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I said ugly? Are you putting words in my mouth? I said after a year a half you'd think it would be thinner and then I made a side comment about a circular watch face. iPad 1 vs iPad 2. One year apart. iPad 2 was thinner, lighter, faster, etc. It was the good old days. You consider what I'm saying is "whining." I guess that's one way to look at it. Another way is "he's right, what on earth have the Apple people been doing slacking on the Mac, slacking on the iPad, now slacking on the iPhone and watch?"
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You're in the minority and making a fool of yourself. The watch needs to be thinner and needs to have more great features. Are you saying this is it? The watch is done and is perfect? LOL

I'm in the minority? Hmm..I sense wiggle room and your trying to defend your original rant on the Watch, when in reality I'm accurate on my thoughts towards the Watch and its future. You clearly didn't read my post thoroughly, because if you had, you would have read the Watch continues to improve and evolve, versus stating that the Watch is "Done" and "Perfect", it's neither of those, hence my above post. All you have managed to do is bash the Watch, providing "It needs to be thinner."

If your going to engage in discussion with me, at least answer my questions I previously asked you in my prior posts, before asking me questions. That's typically how a structured conversation operates.
 
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You guessed incorrectly. I bought an Apple Watch day one. And use it everyday. I was hoping after a year and a half of work they would make it less ugly and more powerful. That's always the goal. Side note, I really wish they would make a circular one. I read somewhere they decided not to because photos get cut off. Besides the occasional wallpaper background, I don't think I've ever opened the photos app on my watch and looked at photos.

It is square because text is delivered in a square format. And you've looked at a lot of text on your Apple Watch.

Let's see what Watch OS 3 does for our first generation watches. The reports are that it is a huge improvement.
 
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I heard Zadeskyl left after Schiller told him to be courageous and remove the wheels from the Apple car. Schiller told him,"Maintaining ancient, single-purpose wheels doesn't make sense because that space is at a premium on a car".
Courageous would actually be to remove the steering wheel :D
 
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Apple don't have a hope in hell of producing a successful, game changing car. It has already been done. By Tesla.

The Model S is everything Apple products used to be. Innovative, game changing, elegant and incredibly easy and pleasurable to use.

Apple is at least 5 years behind the curve and Tesla are surging forward. Ignore the stock market whining about profits - Tesla are playing the long game and investing heavily in R&D. Established automakers are starting to feel the pressure, let alone Apple.

I'm afraid it's becoming increasingly obvious that Apple don't have a clue what they're doing - they're desperately mucking around trying to find something to take over the iPhone as a cash cow but lack the strong, visionary leadership that is required to steal a march on their competitors.

Basically, they lack Steve Jobs.
 
From a product standpoint, Apple developing a car makes perfect sense since it excels at design and UI
Does it still? I would argue Apple has lost its way in terms of design and UI. I shudder at the thought of a Jony Ives-led car design with unnecessarily thin fonts on the instrument panel or infotainment screen, hidden options for HVAC controls, unsightly bulges to house batteries and some questionable color choices to boot!
 
Given they let head of Design take over iOS development, I think Bob is actually more suited ;)
Um, user interface <> iOS development. Craig Federighi, a computer science major and software engineer is responsible for iOS development.
 
With this change, Apple can still develop the car but not make the components, Apple can still design the car but not build it.

Car manufacturing is commoditized and easily outsourced.
 
So basically Google had it right for a while then. Rather than developing a car it's better to work on the technology behind the car and work with partners interested in the technology.
Because Apple and Google are alike in what way?
 
With this change, Apple can still develop the car but not make the components, Apple can still design the car but not build it.

Car manufacturing is commoditized and easily outsourced.
I think everyone assumed the building of an Apple vehicle would be outsourced. I'm amazed though that people think Apple is better suited to do software in this space when the thing the company excels most at is manufacturing and a lot of people complain about their software services like iCloud, maps, Siri, etc. Yet somehow Apple is going to excel at the type of embedded software needed to run autonomous and self driving vehicles and companies like BMW and Mercedes are going to be hitting Apple up for this software? Yeah right. And if people think hardware is commoditized? There are so many companies trying to play in this space now what is Apple's competitive advantage if they're not building the entire widget?
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google has it right from day 1 they will thrive in the self driving car market
Google's not really a products company, they're a services company. Apple is a company that for the most part sells you physical things and layers services on top of them. If Apple is trying to turn into Google we should all be afraid.
 
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