You know, you can report errors to Apple Maps. For the last two years, they have been really quick to fix everything I reported.
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Apple Receives Permit From California DMV to Test Self-Driving Cars [Updated]
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You know, you can report errors to Apple Maps. For the last two years, they have been really quick to fix everything I reported.
Oh sorry, I will remember about that when I have to swim through the lake to get to the gas station:
But no worries mate, I equipped myself with this car:
If Apple isn't planning on licensing out the software, shouldnt they be making a car first then?
Same thing happened to me in Portland Maine!
Could depend on where you live but for me, Apple maps all the way, no more google maps.
Each and every nav system has mistakes, this tells me exactly nothing.
I just picked yours, there are others which claim the same, use it for extended time and then see if it's so much worse than others, guess what, it's not.
Not necessarily.
Google started autonomous car testing years ago with the same Lexus RH450h model that Apple's newly issued permit covers. That was years before Google/Waymo's little bubble cars debuted.
Like Google/Waymo, Apple has likely reached the same conclusion that the standard automobile is mature technology and the immediate focus should be on software development.
Apple is trying to teach the driver. The vehicle itself is less important, just like teenager learning to drive in mom or dad's car. Whether a teen starts driving in a 2001 Toyota Corolla or a 2016 BMW 3-series is less important that what he/she learns.
I'd agree with you: Tesla have the experience. In fact, I think this is why the Apple Car is reputedly not happening: Tesla have already made the "Apple Car".
Plus, Tesla is run by a guy who seems to have a genuine enthusiasm for making cool sci-fi stuff, whereas Apple is run by a guy who has a genuine enthusiasm for watch bands.
Also, Tesla are likely to win the self-driving race: they're making a car with all the hardware needed for self-driving, and, presumably, collecting a metric shedload of real-world driving data (including possibly inadvisable use of the existing autopilot features) to train his systems, while his competitors are pootleing around a few cities at 20mph with a test driver behind the wheel and a lawyer in the passenger seat. If and when the software is ready for real-world use, they'll have a substantial customer base to roll it out to as an upgrade.
Otherwise - self-driving is going to take an awful long time to get that last 1% finished so that it is safe to use without the driver paying attention while also not being aggravatingly over-cautious.
You see, but the problem is not with the mistakes. It's with the "doesn't give a finger" attitude.
I've been reporting it for two years (maybe 2,5). There is no clear and comprehensible system that could track this.
Sure, every system has flaws, Google Maps, Garmin, HERE, TomTom, but they had it corrected in 3 months since my report.
Apple Maps no. Why? They are poorer than Garmin? HERE? They don't want to have up-to-date maps? They develop autonomous cars which don't need maps?
No matter what the answer is, there is something wrong with Maps which has been admitted by Cook himself (in 2012, and in 2016 again!: https://9to5mac.com/2016/08/14/appl...ne-7-launch-about-advice-aiar-and-the-future/).
They acknowledged it twice, they will again, because their pace is turtlish at best.
everyone knows that they reassigned all Mac hardware engineers to watch band design. Don't you ever read these forums?
I wonder how self-driving cars can be a reality any time soon. The software must be very complex and full of bugs, with serious ramifications. How can the coders anticipate every possible scenario the car will encounter? Maybe to assist the driver, okay, but not autonomous. As I've written elsewhere, I can anticipate something like this:
"Recommended software update 3.0.5 - fixes a problem where the windshield wipers came on instead of the brakes being applied under certain emergency situations."
"Recommended software update 3.0.5 - fixes a problem where the windshield wipers came on instead of the brakes being applied under certain emergency situations."
I reported mistakes with Google Maps nearby me yet those have never been fixed.
Here's the point, software will never be 100% accurate in self driving cars, there could be a 100% safe system if all moving things have accurate GPS (=accurate up to a few inches) and communicate with each other and take action if needed.
But, this can't be done, you can't stick GPS in Humans and animals.
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How about side tracking this and fast tracking the new Mac Pro
Yeah... the ONE thing pushing back Mac Pro development is these six drivers.
apple's strategy of "not being first to the game, but be the best" has always been my favorite thing about the company. Apple won't be the first to offer driverless software and cars, but you know it will focus on being the best.
that's also the reason why i think we haven't seen the last of updating the appleTV into a home.
don't be first, be the best. unless you're in a group of people running from a bear. because
if (bearsituation) {
first=best}
that's also the reason why i think we haven't seen the last of updating the appleTV into a home.
don't be first, be the best. unless you're in a group of people running from a bear. because
if (bearsituation) {
first=best}
Can this be serious though?
Six drivers, three test vehicles?
Sounds (to me) like an initial "proof of concept" as the complexity of driverless autonomy lies on wading safely through the infinite nuances of real-world, poor infrastructure, which is the exponentially-hard part.
And on a side note. Is Bob Mansfield still alive and well at Apple? He was the quiet star (in my opinion) among Tim's executive homies.
I find Apple Maps to be better and more accurate than any other map program I've used. If you hate apple so much, why do you continue to use their products (question based upon your sig)?
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Personally, I'd buy neither. Those advantages you list for Apple... they aren't immediately transferable to autonomous vehicles. No current self driving car uses a 'big computer'. Why would someone give Apple an edge in software writing? Afaik, Apple hasn't demonstrated any expertise in software for autonomous driving. What in Apple's supply chain management history causes you to believe they would have any sway in the automotive supply chain? Conflating what they do with phones with sourcing in the automobile industry is folly.
I do understand this was a hypothetical posed by @ArtOfWarfare, but your conclusions aren't based on real world problems faced by the auto industry, much less a newcomer trying to bring a product to market. Apple can't even properly negotiate with the entertainment industry. I can imagine their negotiations with the automotive industry which is even more insular than the entertainment industry.