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Irrelevant. I could claim anything I want online and there’s no way to verify it. And the lawsuits are meaningless - just money hungry lawyers all trying to be first-to-file hoping they’ll find a smoking gun later.

So if a court with a jury finds Apple guilty, you will ignore that and pass it off as ‘money hungry lawyers’?
Kinda pointless discussing anything with you when you defend Apple against anything in a manor like that. Perhaps I should see if your an investor because that’s the only real explanation anyon could be so utterly dfensive like you.
 
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So if a court with a jury finds Apple guilty, you will ignore that and pass it off as ‘money hungry lawyers’?
Kinda pointless discussing anything with you when you defend Apple against anything in a manor like that. Perhaps I should see if your an investor because that’s the only real explanation anyon could be so utterly dfensive like you.

If they’re found guilty they’re guilty. I don’t question verdicts since I don’t have all the facts presented in court.

Like I said, let me know when you get some evidence (other than your hopes & dreams).
 
Yes, i prefer the dual lenses because i film my son playing flag football and it is VERY NICE to have the zoom lens that is stabilized for video. I cannot do that on your 6 or the 8. I can do that on the 8+ but the zoom video will be shaky because telephoto lens NEEDS OIS more than regular lens. (This coming from someone who had iPhone 7+)

Better viewing experience? X OLED supports TRUE HDR10/Dolby Vision; thus, movies viewed thru X display are FREAKING AWESOME. Your 6 is not even close...and cannot view such content. The 8/8+ does support HDR10/DV but it is watered-down and not true to what HDR10/DV can provide in terms of dynamic range and brightness.

The X OLED also supports 120Hz touch sensitivity...partly because it relies more on gestures but also helps with basically every time you touch the screen to interact with it.

Weather proof that important to you? Much cheaper to get a waterproof case. From what i hear, GS7 battery life is not that much better than GS6. YMMV

For me, the X camera has REAL-WORLD added capability not seen in your 6 or 8/8+. The X OLED again has REAL-WORLD added capability to better enjoy my movies.

(Oh, and the 4K 60Hz video recording is a game-changer in REAL WORLD. But 8/8+ can do this too.)
Perhaps I'm not presenting my question correctly but everything you've mentioned appears to answer the question "What improvements does the iPhone X offer over the iPhone 8" and not the "what are you able to do with the iPhone X that you can't do with the iPhone 8". Those are two very different questions and the responses I've received tend to address the former and not the latter.

Again I'd like to stress I am in no way questioning the specifications of the iPhone X nor anyone's decision to purchase one. I am very interested in knowing what the iPhone X allows someone to do that they couldn't do with the iPhone 8. What does TRUE HDR10/Dolby Vision really do for you? I am not wanting for a better movie viewing experience on my iPhone 6. The iPhone 6 has a great display, more than sufficient for movie watching.
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Visit any thread discussing the iPhone camera and posters will discuss ois. You may not hear about ois from your friends in casual conversation but the technology offers clear benefits to anyone using then camera on the X, whether or not they even know ois exists. Apple thought it important enough to include that hardware on both lenses on the x.

Some people like the latest and greatest in tech and others don’t care. It’s hard or near impossible to explain to a person who doesn’t care about the latest in consumer tech why that tech is beneficial.
Yes, they do. They're not the people I am interested in hearing from. If you're in it just for the latest and greatest then say as much and be done with it. That's a perfectly acceptable reason. What I don't want is a bunch of sugar coating trying to obfuscate this reason.
 
Perhaps I'm not presenting my question correctly but everything you've mentioned appears to answer the question "What improvements does the iPhone X offer over the iPhone 8" and not the "what are you able to do with the iPhone X that you can't do with the iPhone 8". Those are two very different questions and the responses I've received tend to address the former and not the latter.

Again I'd like to stress I am in no way questioning the specifications of the iPhone X nor anyone's decision to purchase one. I am very interested in knowing what the iPhone X allows someone to do that they couldn't do with the iPhone 8. What does TRUE HDR10/Dolby Vision really do for you? I am not wanting for a better movie viewing experience on my iPhone 6. The iPhone 6 has a great display, more than sufficient for movie watching.
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Yes, they do. They're not the people I am interested in hearing from. If you're in it just for the latest and greatest then say as much and be done with it. That's a perfectly acceptable reason. What I don't want is a bunch of sugar coating trying to obfuscate this reason.

You’re kinda dense, aren’t you? LOL. I like the car analogy used earlier by another user. So, a Porsche 911 TT is no better than a Kia Spectra...because Porsche really does not do anything “new”, right? And no reasonable person should ever get a Porsche 911 TT if they can afford it over a Spectra, right?

Like i said earlier, keep your 6 and rationalize away all logic. Your GS7 should be on its last leg by now with lag and stuttering. Good luck with that.
 
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You’re kinda dense, aren’t you? LOL. I like the car analogy used earlier by another user. So, a Porsche 911 TT is no better than a Kia Spectra...because Porsche really does not do anything “new”, right? And no reasonable person should ever get a Porsche 911 TT if they can afford it over a Spectra, right?

Like i said earlier, keep your 6 and rationalize away all logic. Your GS7 should be on its last leg by now with lag and stuttering. Good luck with that.
For a few people the Porsche offers real advantages. For the vast majority of drivers it offers nothing over a Kia Spectra. If you're the person who benefits from a Porsche then by all means buy one. If you're the type of person who just wants a Porsche then by all means buy one. What I am not interested in is someone who doesn't benefit from a Porsche telling me why a Porsche is technically better than a Kia Spectra. That doesn't interest me unless they benefit from the Porsche. See the difference?

Likewise I never said people should avoid the iPhone X. That's your strawman.
 
For a few people the Porsche offers real advantages. For the vast majority of drivers it offers nothing over a Kia Spectra. If you're the person who benefits from a Porsche then by all means buy one. If you're the type of person who just wants a Porsche then by all means buy one. What I am not interested in is someone who doesn't benefit from a Porsche telling me why a Porsche is technically better than a Kia Spectra. That doesn't interest me unless they benefit from the Porsche. See the difference?

Likewise I never said people should avoid the iPhone X. That's your strawman.

Well, a Porsche is technically better.
 
Perhaps I'm not presenting my question correctly but everything you've mentioned appears to answer the question "What improvements does the iPhone X offer over the iPhone 8" and not the "what are you able to do with the iPhone X that you can't do with the iPhone 8". Those are two very different questions and the responses I've received tend to address the former and not the latter.

Again I'd like to stress I am in no way questioning the specifications of the iPhone X nor anyone's decision to purchase one. I am very interested in knowing what the iPhone X allows someone to do that they couldn't do with the iPhone 8. What does TRUE HDR10/Dolby Vision really do for you? I am not wanting for a better movie viewing experience on my iPhone 6. The iPhone 6 has a great display, more than sufficient for movie watching.
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Yes, they do. They're not the people I am interested in hearing from. If you're in it just for the latest and greatest then say as much and be done with it. That's a perfectly acceptable reason. What I don't want is a bunch of sugar coating trying to obfuscate this reason.
This post and the posts that follow...I’ve already listed a few things the iPhone X can do, the 8+ can’t. It’s up to you to do the cost/benefit analysis, and that analysis will not potentially be the same across all users. That’s not sugar coated. You don’t have to accept the camera takes better pictures, not worrying about dirty hands with touchid, better display qualities etc. but other customers may find those reasons entice them into buying the X.

The questions you pose are exactly the same. A camera improvement on the X means you can’t take the same quality picture on the 8+.

It’s not relevant if someone doesn’t take advantage of the improvements, as you implied in the post above.
 
I'm no longer surprised or impressed by Apple's market share and revenues. Their gains were applaudable when they were a visionary underdog up against an industry of soulless Windows PCs. Now Apple has achieved a following that is so big that it doesn’t have to differentiate itself to sell product (at least in the USA). If the brand were to erode, it would take years before enough customers notice.

I wish there was a product that could compete with the iPhone. I really wish there was. Consumers always benefit from competition.

Sadly, there is no real competition.

I have an iPhone 6S+ for work and a Samsung Galaxy S7 for my personal phone because like many people I want to keep a foot in both camps. I've used Samsung, Motorola/Lenovo and HTC smartphones. I have never been able to get the same consistently good experience as I do with an iPhone.

I very happy with my Samsung Galaxy S7 (except for battery life) and I've had good overall experiences with every Android device I've owned. But it just isn't the same consistently good experience as an iPhone.

I would very much like to NOT be stuck in Apple's "walled garden" but at present I just don't see a better alternative.
 
This post and the posts that follow...I’ve already listed a few things the iPhone X can do, the 8+ can’t. It’s up to you to do the cost/benefit analysis, and that analysis will not potentially be the same across all users. That’s not sugar coated. You don’t have to accept the camera takes better pictures, not worrying about dirty hands with touchid, better display qualities etc. but other customers may find those reasons entice them into buying the X.

The questions you pose are exactly the same. A camera improvement on the X means you can’t take the same quality picture on the 8+.

It’s not relevant if someone doesn’t take advantage of the improvements, as you implied in the post above.
Apparently I'm not being clear in my question. I'm not asking "Is the iPhone X technically better than the iPhone 8". I'm asking "What do you do with the iPhone X that you cannot do with the iPhone 8". So far all I've received are responses addressing the former and nothing addressing the latter.

Re camera quality: What issue were you having with previous smart phone cameras that were solved with the iPhone X? A response to the effect of "They're technically better" doesn't answer my question.
 
That may be true. But if you are not taking advantages of those better qualities does it make sense to spend more for those technically better qualities?

But plenty do. On the X, it is everyday for most if not all owners.

And if you have not realize already, you fell for my trap scenario to prove my point.
 
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Apparently I'm not being clear in my question. I'm not asking "Is the iPhone X technically better than the iPhone 8". I'm asking "What do you do with the iPhone X that you cannot do with the iPhone 8". So far all I've received are responses addressing the former and nothing addressing the latter.

Re camera quality: What issue were you having with previous smart phone cameras that were solved with the iPhone X? A response to the effect of "They're technically better" doesn't answer my question.
What you are attempting to do, as another posted has noted, is distill the essence of a smartphone to it's basics. On an iphone 6 and iphone x both can check Facebook. Make phone calls. Both have means of authentication. Both have mobile payment systems. Both take pictures. In fact all smartphones can do these. If that is your thought process all fine and dandy, however I look at, can a new phone make my life more efficient/easier?

You will never get an answer to the question of: "What do you do with the iPhone X that you cannot do with the iPhone 8" because you are asking at such a high level there is no differentiation in the METHOD used to perform the tasks or no taking new technology into account which may make some things you do with the phone, more efficient, easier or just plain more fun.

The same thought process can be used for cars when comparing a Honda Accord to a Mercedes S class AMG or even a Ferrari. Yet I can buy an Accord fairly quickly, but there is a two year waiting list to buy a Ferrari. The conclusion that I draw, is sometimes the METHOD used to perform the task matters to some people.

With regard to camera quality, I was getting shaking and noise taken low light pictures. The better sensor in the iphone X has solved that problem. This is an example of something that is made better.

I work with gloves and I had to remove the gloves to authenticate on the iphone 8. With face id I don't have to remove the gloves. This is also an example of something that is made better.

If one doesn't care about the noise, or one doesn't mind removing the gloves, then sure, spending that much on an iphone x might seem frivolous, as both phones take pictures and have means of authentication. Again, it depends on your cost benefit analysis for upgrading your phone as to whether these two examples might make an upgrade worthwhile.
 
Apparently I'm not being clear in my question. I'm not asking "Is the iPhone X technically better than the iPhone 8". I'm asking "What do you do with the iPhone X that you cannot do with the iPhone 8". So far all I've received are responses addressing the former and nothing addressing the latter.

Re camera quality: What issue were you having with previous smart phone cameras that were solved with the iPhone X? A response to the effect of "They're technically better" doesn't answer my question.

Sometimes, it’s not so much what you can or cannot do, but how you do it which makes all the difference.

For example, the Apple Pencil doesn’t let me do anything I couldn’t already do with a third-party stylus, but the writing experience is on a whole different level, and that alone can justify the difference in price between an iPad Pro and a normal iPad for some users.

The iPhone X crams a plus iPhone into an iPhone 8 form factor, so it’s kinda like the best of both worlds here. You trade Touch ID for Face ID, which comes with its own pros and cons. You trade the home button for a new paradigm of swipes and gestures.

In short, you are really paying for a new form factor and way of interacting with your device, not so much an increase in productivity or capabilities.
 
another completely disingenuous headline from an apple fan boy

this COMPLETELY ignores these facts:
1. any time there's an apple launch of an iphone it's always big and the first idiots through the door are the fanboys who salivate to have anything apple puts out as soon as possible
2. but in time, the truth comes out: and what is left out of this article is that apple has MASSIVELY ramped down production of the X due to horribly low demand (you know... shortly after all the fan boys lapped up apple's latest offering).
 
I never understood forum fanboys obsession with Apple's profits. It's not as if those profits belong to you.
 
Actually it does to some as a few who post on here are Apple share holders, so they actually have personal financial interests in defending Apple and it’s massive profits.
That bias you are implying for shareholders does not mean the non-shareholders are bias free.

If a Company is going to take in dollars by the barrel it might as well be Apple.
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another completely disingenuous headline from an apple fan boy

this COMPLETELY ignores these facts:
1. any time there's an apple launch of an iphone it's always big and the first idiots through the door are the fanboys who salivate to have anything apple puts out as soon as possible
2. but in time, the truth comes out: and what is left out of this article is that apple has MASSIVELY ramped down production of the X due to horribly low demand (you know... shortly after all the fan boys lapped up apple's latest offering).
Same as the disingenuous market share headlines. Because market share is an indication of revenue. Right?

And maybe you can explain your second point. Apple has its customers who buy their products. Whether you are an Apple customer or not, there are people who like Apple products and want to be first to buy them.
 
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another completely disingenuous headline from an apple fan boy

this COMPLETELY ignores these facts:
1. any time there's an apple launch of an iphone it's always big and the first idiots through the door are the fanboys who salivate to have anything apple puts out as soon as possible
2. but in time, the truth comes out: and what is left out of this article is that apple has MASSIVELY ramped down production of the X due to horribly low demand (you know... shortly after all the fan boys lapped up apple's latest offering).

Idiotic logic. Samsung does not cut production on their product a few months after launch? Google practically given away Pixel 2 for free! You think that they are not cutting production?! You do realize that Samsung is getting eaten alive by Apple iPhones on the high end and Chinese OEMs on the low end?

What is important is...Apple next quarter guidance and if they can meet it. And according to that, Apple is still planning to sell plenty of iPhones!
 
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I never understood forum fanboys obsession with Apple's profits. It's not as if those profits belong to you.

In the same vein, I will never understand why people keep comparing Apple’s market share to android’s, when the two have vastly differing business models.

Market share is the means. Profit is the end. What’s the use of all that market share when it doesn’t let you turn a meaningful profit?

One can go crazy trying to track whichever doomsday narrative is in flavor at the moment. Wouldn’t it be way more productive and valuable to spend time learning about the way Apple approaches the world, and analyzing the company's results & strategy?

Products like Apple Watch, iPhone X, and AirPods tell us the Apple machine is functioning properly, and that Apple is far from doomed. Instead of trying to explain away Apple’s success, why not try to explain it, since Apple is so very clearly anything but doomed?
 
Every business professor will tell a budding entrepreneur 'to charge for a product a price that the market will bear'. That is perfectly applicable here.
I'm not saying that's bad for the entrepreneur. It's bad for my wallet. Obviously Apple is good at capitalism.
 
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Apple is absolutely dominating. Stronger than ever.
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So if a court with a jury finds Apple guilty, you will ignore that and pass it off as ‘money hungry lawyers’?
Kinda pointless discussing anything with you when you defend Apple against anything in a manor like that. Perhaps I should see if your an investor because that’s the only real explanation anyon could be so utterly dfensive like you.
OJ was not guilty.

The law is complex and you all are going to learn that in Apple’s case.
 
Well, with profits come support from developers, accessory makers, 3rd parties, and even car makers.

Beat me to it. Developers still favor iOS over Android. In 2018 yet. Still waiting for Android to take over (as is promised every year since 2011).

The average iOS user generates 4X the revenue as the average Android user. Who do you think developers are going to concentrate on? We already know the answer based on the superior quality and selection in The App Store vs Google Play.
 
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