Stock price goes up on growth
Apple's growth is slowing because they are so big already
Smartphone margins are due to fall because that's what happens when a product becomes a commodity
Same with tablets
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Apple Records Q4 2012 Earnings of $8.2B on $36B in Revenue, Tops $150B in Sales for Fiscal 2012 [Call Ended]
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Stock price goes up on growth
Apple's growth is slowing because they are so big already
Smartphone margins are due to fall because that's what happens when a product becomes a commodity
Same with tablets
Well, with $120B in cash they could easily afford a 51% stake and drive them into the ground.
In all seriousness though, I wasn't being that serious, just quick, albeit unfounded, observation.
It obviously wouldn't be in anyone's interest for Apple to buy Google or Samsung, nor would it be viable, but I can't help but feel like Steve's "thermo-nuclear war" might have included a mad-cap plan like that if he was still with us.
Iphone 5 4Q estimated went from 50M to 60m (after the 2m pre-order in 24 hours) and now down to 40m units and no one is confidence at 40m either since Foxconn is still fighting the quality issue. And now we find out that Apple gross margin in 4Q will be at most in the mid-30% vs 40% in 3Q12 and 43+% in 2Q12.. So the most important product for Apple is supply constraint and the margin across the board is going down.. Is there any reason the stock should not go down? Based on Apple estimate, 4Q12 will be the first Q that earning will be down yoy for a very long teim
Well there goes my money. Bought at $619. GODDAM it.
You only loose if you sell right now. Emotional stock buyers are the ones that loose the most.
Apple is Doomed
Apple have to make 4.7" smartphones. People prefer larger screen over one hand control. People prefer bigger battery over lighter & thinner. Apple failed. People don't care about ECO system or OS upgrade anymore.
Apple sold 27M smartphones vs Samesung sold 58M smartphones in Q4.
Apple have to make 4.7" smartphones. People prefer larger screen over one hand control. People prefer bigger battery over lighter & thinner. Apple failed. People don't care about ECO system or OS upgrade anymore.
Apple sold 27M smartphones vs Samesung sold 58M smartphones in Q4.
So...is the stock going to drop further because some iditotic "expert" investors predicted (by pulling that info out of their butts) that the profits/whatever would be better than Apple reported them to be, even though *APPLE* gave guidance in advance that turned out to be *CONSERVATIVE* since they beat that guidance? And they're selling a gazillion of their gadgets and racking in much $$$ in real profits, whereas Amazon (whom everybody loves) reports another quarter of *LOSSES* yet their stock profit likely won't be negatively impacted.
Up is down and down is up. I'm not sure why I even try to play around in the stock market. I bought some Apple stock when it was around $300 (only about a year ago I think) and I certainly wish I could have afforded to buy a lot more then (or have been smart enough to buy some many years prior). But I'm also thinking that maybe I should sell now and just cash in...not because I have any doubt in Apple being a solid company, but because I have so little faith in the stock market to accurately reflect Apple's real value in how they're valuing the Apple stock price. It seems to me like AAPL should *EASILY* be at $1000 a share or more, yet it's being held down low because of either some great conspiracy or just total idiocy in the market.
Up is down and down is up. I'm not sure why I even try to play around in the stock market. I bought some Apple stock when it was around $300 (only about a year ago I think) and I certainly wish I could have afforded to buy a lot more then (or have been smart enough to buy some many years prior). But I'm also thinking that maybe I should sell now and just cash in...not because I have any doubt in Apple being a solid company, but because I have so little faith in the stock market to accurately reflect Apple's real value in how they're valuing the Apple stock price. It seems to me like AAPL should *EASILY* be at $1000 a share or more, yet it's being held down low because of either some great conspiracy or just total idiocy in the market.
Apple sold 27M smartphones vs Samesung sold 58M smartphones in Q4.
Man, I gotta go get in that Samsung line. There is a line, right?
I just have a STP set pretty low. Until then, riding it out. Gonna get out at $629 though. I put too much leverage into this stock.
Speaking of Google, why do people continue to respond to lilo77's taunts? Don't you know Google gives him a nickel every time one of his endlessly anti-Apple rants appears on-screen?
I doubt Google would want to pay him any money at all as he is not very good at FUD or trolling. Maybe we can consider him the resident pet.
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Apple stock up tomorrow.
Apple up slightly in after hours trading. I do think that the stock will be down in the morning though. Good long term buy opportunity.
Seriously, can we just get past the Steve Jobs quote on 7 inch tablets and filing down fingers? He was in full reality distortion field mode when he said 7" tablets can't ever work well. Of course they can. The 8" iPad Mini is a better size for most people, but all sizes of tablets work pretty well if they are well made and run a nice OS.
I have a friend who says he uses his Galaxy SIII more than his first gen iPad now when he is at home. It works great for him.
Apple didn't miraculously hit on the perfect sized tablet the first time and it hasn't the second time. It has a great OS and tablets are great. That is the reason for the success. Not the exact size they happen to be made at.
But the people that move it around do, and should move it around accordingly. Unfortunately, you're right, that in the US, the culture is anti-ethics, which is why I've moved our company over the border to Ontario. While you guys squabble about how little you can pay for as little services as possible, I gladly pay slightly higher (but still relatively low, worldwide) taxes knowing it goes to improving the quality of life for the culture as a whole. All comes down to what value you want your lifes work to have.
Somehow, their second best quarter ever for Mac sales brings you to that conclusion!?
It's not really how many they sell, it's the ratio.
Working as an analyst in retail for a power tools these numbers just boggle my mind. They're almost incomprehensible. This is really impressive.
Then you'd better buy as much as you can afford this very minute. More than you can afford. Buy on margin. Take out a second mortage on the house.
If you believe in portfolio theory, you don't put all your eggs (and more) in one basket, even with 99% winning odds. Or gamblers ruin and black swans will eventually feast on your grave.
Or maybe you're just hiding under a bridge hoping that the OP will become your tasty morsel...