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Apple Refocusing Final Cut Pro? Jobs says "Next Release Will Be Awesome"
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Oh you are being picky! Ok but it would be a right pig to edit with. Couldn't really charge much for that edit suite.
And the point is?
You're complaining about Apple's switch to x86 and the lack of PCI x slots all over a one line quote from Steve Jobs that said the next release would be awesome. It's really amazing watching people complain about this quote, I guess some people just don't want a GCD, OpenCL capable Final Cut Suite do they?
True but then pro level Mac's loose one of their best selling points. With FCP you had to have Mac based editing suite but with Avid, Autodesk and the rest you can go with any recommended PC box.
I've been using Final Cut Pro since v.1.0 (got the t-shirt to prove it, yeah I'm a loser) and I'm all for an FCP rewrite. The weakest points of the app have been the same for as long as I can remember and I'm surprised it runs as well as it does today. Don't get me started on some of the things that drive me crazy, but overall it's such an incredible tool.
Apple is a hardware seller and I'm thinking a rewired FCP will actually renew interest in the Mac Pro line. Imagine how many 8-core machines Apple could sell if one of its flagship applications could actually make use of that hardware.
I really hope they re-work the Suite as a whole. Roundtripping to Color and back is killing me when finishing complicated projects on a deadline. If only they could integrate these applications into a single unit somehow. I also find it encouraging that Randy is on the team. Afterall, unless I'm mistaken, isn't he the one that gave birth to FCP's UI in the first place? More power to you, Apple. I'm ready for a change and can't wait to see what's coming next.
Sorry, if you've been using FCP since v1 then I'm guessing you're a pro. Like it says in the article:
"Apple is said to be revamping their Final Cut Pro product to appeal to a more mainstream audience rather than high end professionals."
So this new release is definitely not for "finishing complicated projects on a deadline" like you mentioned. And Color? Are you joking? There's no way the mainstream audience is going to know what to do with color correction tools, its back to the 3-Way Color Correction filter I'm sure.
This pretty much sums it up for me. I will wait to pass judgment on the new product. WE have no idea what is going to happen. None, nada.................
More importantly Ollywood is that PC manufactures such as Dell and HP offer small, medium, and large corp. extremely attractive pricing and incentives to own. You can buy a Mac equivalent in hardware with 3 years of onsite warranty (option for 24 onsite and laptop replacement regardless of damage), and trade in options for less than Apple.
I love Apple however for businesses Apple is just not doing what it needs to do to get its foot in the door. I know at my job if Apple offered better pricing and service to us almost our entire business would switch.
I am a FCE user.
If Apple shows it the door then I will have to look for an alternative. But I will keep using FCE as long as I can.
What ever happens I hope the new FCP, FCE or whatever don't end up with the freakish interface like iMovie has now.
Sorry, the moment we saw how Apple was jumping on the YouTube upload bandwagon, and catering to the trendy crowd, the other apps would suffer. Now look where we are.
Hopefully FCP will not be lessened as a product. Making it easier to use, hey I am all for that. Some day I hope to graduate up to FCP. But I'm happy with FCE now.
If Apple shows it the door then I will have to look for an alternative. But I will keep using FCE as long as I can.
What ever happens I hope the new FCP, FCE or whatever don't end up with the freakish interface like iMovie has now.
Sorry, the moment we saw how Apple was jumping on the YouTube upload bandwagon, and catering to the trendy crowd, the other apps would suffer. Now look where we are.
Hopefully FCP will not be lessened as a product. Making it easier to use, hey I am all for that. Some day I hope to graduate up to FCP. But I'm happy with FCE now.
Sometimes my english skills fail me, but I'll guess this is sarcasm.
There is no relevant gain in having some i3's. I have a 13" MBP and I am doing 3D on it. The fact that Sony managed to squeeze discrete graphics in their Z series - good for them, won't make me switch to Windows and crappy support for the same price.
For me those who bitch about i3 are mostly people who update their PCs every 5 years.
It would make a HUGE DEAL!!! I have 2 monitors FULL of tabs! do not need any more thank you very much!!
And leave Color to the color people I love my Apple monitors!
Apple Pro Package
Apple needs to go after Avid and Autodesk more aggressively. They need to offer a pro package for high end 3D and compositing along with Final Cut Pro. Apple would need to acquire some new packages in the process and build a unified GUI across the board. Here's what it would look like:
Final Cut Pro + Nuke/Shake Hybrid + (Houdini 3D + Color + Mari + Realflow + Massive + zbrush + Modo) + Soundtrack Pro/Logic Hybrid (geared towards sound engineers) + DVD Studio Pro
Nuke & Mari
http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/
Houdini 3D
http://www.sidefx.com/
Realflow
http://www.realflow.com/
Massive
http://www.massivesoftware.com/
Zbrush
http://www.pixologic.com/home.php
Modo
http://www.luxology.com/
Apple should really push Mac OS X into the forefront of 3D and special effects compositing. I'm surprised they haven't done this yet. Its right there with content production. I intentionally left Motion out, I see it as either an express type application or possibly along side iMovie. Nuke/Shake destroys both Motion and yes After Effects.
What packages would you like to see Apple put together?
Apple needs to go after Avid and Autodesk more aggressively. They need to offer a pro package for high end 3D and compositing along with Final Cut Pro. Apple would need to acquire some new packages in the process and build a unified GUI across the board. Here's what it would look like:
Final Cut Pro + Nuke/Shake Hybrid + (Houdini 3D + Color + Mari + Realflow + Massive + zbrush + Modo) + Soundtrack Pro/Logic Hybrid (geared towards sound engineers) + DVD Studio Pro
Nuke & Mari
http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/
Houdini 3D
http://www.sidefx.com/
Realflow
http://www.realflow.com/
Massive
http://www.massivesoftware.com/
Zbrush
http://www.pixologic.com/home.php
Modo
http://www.luxology.com/
Apple should really push Mac OS X into the forefront of 3D and special effects compositing. I'm surprised they haven't done this yet. Its right there with content production. I intentionally left Motion out, I see it as either an express type application or possibly along side iMovie. Nuke/Shake destroys both Motion and yes After Effects.
What packages would you like to see Apple put together?
SO Then WTF difference does it make if the interface is more user friendly. Your scared that the 20 year old graduating college, maybe gunning for your job, then PRODUCE QUALITY CONTENT THEN. Otherwise stop being a cry-baby and go use "AVID/PINNACLE/VEGAS" or whatever product, and don't use FCP. Apple doesn't need "crybaby" wanna-be professionals in the community!
Read above and take two asprins.
You can't pull from a company marketing site. It's not like Apple is going to post the stuff Avid users say, or the bad things people say about Final Cut.
That's like saying: "X is great because the company that makes it says so!"
Agreed, it's been a long standing fact that Apple doesn't have the back-end to handle business. Apple only suggests on-site repair via a 3rd party.
True, but there are issues with the consumer apps as well. Not to mention the ability to add complex features into a simple interface.
It's visible in hardware as well. The more complex and abundant the features, the more complex the usability and UI. Take Pro DSLRs for instance.
Because they can't. There are nothing consumer oriented with high end post production. Then again what I've seen with iMovie in its current form Apple has failed to deliver easy and intuitive UI so its beyond me how they could build "consumer grade" UI for professional post production...
We need to stop comparing this to iMovie. It's probably not going to look anything like that.
Tell me "NO"
I can't believe the would do this to us. First they dumb down the laptops and refuse to listen when we all demanded matt-finished screens. If they do this I'll use the old version until I have the money to buy an Avid system then I'll never look back.
I can't believe the would do this to us. First they dumb down the laptops and refuse to listen when we all demanded matt-finished screens. If they do this I'll use the old version until I have the money to buy an Avid system then I'll never look back.
I'm going to laugh when they release the next Final Cut Studio, and the only change is the addition of it running 64 bit.
Seriously though, a lot of you guys need to REALLY calm down. It's just causing confusion for others, who then start to freak out as well. Then the actual facts get buried underneath, "I CAN'T BELIEVE APPLE IS KILLING FINAL CUT STUDIO!! OH NO!!" Some of you are acting like you just realized 2012 is actually happening!
I still believe good things are coming for Final Cut Studio. You can argue, but FCS is still HUGE in the professional video editing market.
Seriously though, a lot of you guys need to REALLY calm down. It's just causing confusion for others, who then start to freak out as well. Then the actual facts get buried underneath, "I CAN'T BELIEVE APPLE IS KILLING FINAL CUT STUDIO!! OH NO!!" Some of you are acting like you just realized 2012 is actually happening!
I still believe good things are coming for Final Cut Studio. You can argue, but FCS is still HUGE in the professional video editing market.
I'm going to laugh when they release the next Final Cut Studio, and the only change is the addition of it running 64 bit.
Seriously though, a lot of you guys need to REALLY calm down. It's just causing FUD.
Some of you are acting like you just realized 2012 is actually happening!
I still believe good things are coming for Final Cut Studio. You can argue, but FCS is still HUGE in the professional video editing market.
Don't mind my shortening of your post.
I agree, but many of us have seen Apple in the past, and notice the trend in much of what Apple and the tech world is doing. Plus, upon reading the rumor carefully, Apple does plan on making FCP suitable for mainstream users . . . or more like FCE which they sell more of.
Like another poster said, Apple can either do a great job of meeting that goal, and fixing most of the bugs and issues that the apps still have, or FUBAR it up completely.
p.s. everyone needs to stop with the 2012 bu!!$h!t, it's getting old and, like the movie, it's complete nonsense.
I'm not comparing it to iMovie. I'm only underlining the fact that Apple couldn't even make iMovie intuitive and easy to use. FCP is professional app for professional users. The requirements are far more complex and you can't shoe horn pro app into some easy to use consumer form. Even more importantly if the new interface effects the work flow we won't be happy.
Don't mind my shortening of your post.
p.s. everyone needs to stop with the 2012 bu!!$h!t, it's getting old and, like the movie, it's complete nonsense.
I have the same opinion on that subject, thus the "
"...
Something to keep in mind.
Remember that Apple has many relationships with Pro-Video and Pro-Camera companies and having been to the last NAB show in Las Vegas, I can tell you that none of those companies expressed any nervousness about moving forward with Apple and FCS.
This list is not exhaustive, but here is a sample of companies that work closely with Apple's products:
Panasonic, Canon, Sony, JVC, Grass Valley, AJA, and Blackmagic Design just to name a few.
I also spoke with one Apple FCS Engineer who, when asked about my concerns of the future of FCS, said that all the resources that were normally associated with Trade Shows had been pooled into the Product Team. While that certainly sounded like "Apple" Speak, I think he was trying to reassure me that I have nothing to worry about for the future of the product.
Remember that Apple has many relationships with Pro-Video and Pro-Camera companies and having been to the last NAB show in Las Vegas, I can tell you that none of those companies expressed any nervousness about moving forward with Apple and FCS.
This list is not exhaustive, but here is a sample of companies that work closely with Apple's products:
Panasonic, Canon, Sony, JVC, Grass Valley, AJA, and Blackmagic Design just to name a few.
I also spoke with one Apple FCS Engineer who, when asked about my concerns of the future of FCS, said that all the resources that were normally associated with Trade Shows had been pooled into the Product Team. While that certainly sounded like "Apple" Speak, I think he was trying to reassure me that I have nothing to worry about for the future of the product.