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When I first learned of the 16-inch MBP, I was encouraged. As an owner of the 1st Gen 12" MacBook, I was very disappointed with its slow-ass performance, single I/O, watered-down camera, and especially the latent defect keyboard, combined with the horrible Apple Store of Scottsdale customer service. I vowed never to buy another Mac laptop (yes, that's what it is) ever again.

After Tim Cook finally authorized the reimbursement of the keyboard replacement, I decided to stay onboard and purchase the 15" 2017 MacBook Pro with the useless touch bar. However, I'm so tired of the USB-C I/O limitations; I kicked myself. Once again, I vowed to drop the MacBook Pro and look to the Lenovo P1 as my next portable laptop.

Even so, Apple is pretty good at marketing a suitable solution just before I decide to switch camps. Maybe the 16-inch will be enough to keep me from leaving.
 
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I think we could see a new Model on top of the MBP 15", Slightly thicker for better Thermals.

And a MacBook Air and MacBook CPU upgrade. ( IceLake ) The problem is, MBA and MB, that is only 2 Model for each, what is the other 3 model?

Edit: Turns out the Spec don't count as Model Number. There is only 1 Model Number for each Macbook Category, and not spec. So MacBook Air Retina, Macbook, MacBook Pro 13", MacBook Pro 15". MacBook Pro 13" WO Touch Bar, that is 5 Model.

Mac mini could also be a portable computer, that is 6 Model.

What is the 7th one? MacBook Pro Pro 16". Or MacBook Air Non Retina?
 
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The numbers indicate a breakdown of five different products with two extra siblings mixed in.

A2141/7 - MacBook Good/Better or Intel/A-series?
A2158/9 - MacBook Air Good/Better?
A2179 - 13" MacBook Escape?
A2182 - 13" MacBook Pro?
A2251 - 16" MacBook Pro?

Hope the prices come back down into territory that's at least adjacent to sanity. The current ones, especially for Touch Bar models, are straight-up banana pancakes.
 
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The numbers indicate a breakdown of five different products with two extra siblings mixed in.

A2141/7 - MacBook Good/Better?
A2158/9 - MacBook Air Good/Better?
A2179 - 13" MacBook Escape?
A2182 - 13" MacBook Pro?
A2251 - 16" MacBook Pro?

I highly doubt they will be releasing a new MBP anytime soon since they just did a refresh and they also had WWDC as a stage - if they wanted to announce it alongside the Mac Pro Cheese Grater Edition.

But what do I know?
 
When I first learned of the 16-inch MBP, I was encouraged. As an owner of the 1st Gen 12" MacBook, I was very disappointed with its slow-ass performance, single I/O, watered-down camera, and especially the latent defect keyboard,

I bought one of these too, and got rid of it a couple months later. I'd been buying Mac laptops since 1999 and this was the first one that was such a disappointment I couldn't keep it. I ended up going back to my 11" MacBook Air. The positives of the MacBook (thinness, display quality) did not even remotely outweigh the negatives you just listed. Hell, even with all that I'd have kept it if it had had a keyboard that wasn't horrible to type on.
 
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I highly doubt they will be releasing a new MBP anytime soon since they just did a refresh and they also had WWDC as a stage - if they wanted to announce it alongside the Mac Pro Cheese Grater Edition.

But what do I know?

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I highly doubt they will be releasing a new MBP anytime soon since they just did a refresh and they also had WWDC as a stage - if they wanted to announce it alongside the Mac Pro Cheese Grater Edition.

But what do I know?
I think the September/October event will see regular refreshes across a big chunk of Apple’s lineup. Likely just spec upgrades. Nothing worth taking up the extremely limited time at WWDC.
 
OK. Tell that to the dedicated extended warranty program that covers all of them.
OK...that proves nothing other than Apple is taking care of people with issues. If enough people had issues, a warranty program wouldn't be sufficient and they would have been forced to make a serious redesign in the most recent version which they didn't do.
 
I highly doubt they will be releasing a new MBP anytime soon since they just did a refresh and they also had WWDC as a stage - if they wanted to announce it alongside the Mac Pro Cheese Grater Edition.

But what do I know?

They seem interested in rapid refresh cycles now, so it's possible. But yes, it's more likely that the MacBook and Air will be the prime candidates for a refresh right now.
 
I hope this is a soon to be update for the non-touch bar MacBook Pro. I have been trying to decide if I should sell my 2017 non-touch bar MacBook Pro and get the 2018 MacBook Air because of the better keyboard and Touch ID. With these new Macs in the database, I am now willing to hold on to my MacBook Pro to see if Apple does update the non-touch bar MacBook Pro.
 
If enough people had issues, a warranty program wouldn't be sufficient and that would have made a serious redesign in the most recent version which they didn't do.

You'd think, right? And yet here we are with a keyboard with the tactile feedback of a piece of wood and which the official recommendation is to blow into with canned air to keep it from failing.

I'll wait for a better keyboard, myself, that has actual decent key travel -- or just keep running older Mac laptops until I can't anymore and then start looking at alternatives.
 
You'd think, right? And yet here we are with a keyboard with the tactile feedback of a piece of wood and which the official recommendation is to blow into with canned air to keep it from failing.

I'll wait for a better keyboard, myself, that has actual decent key travel -- or just keep running older Mac laptops until I can't anymore and then start looking at alternatives.
Honestly, what's wrong with that? If blowing canned air fixes your nasty keyboard, that's a fix. Most people evidently don't have the issue.
 
I highly doubt they will be releasing a new MBP anytime soon since they just did a refresh and they also had WWDC as a stage - if they wanted to announce it alongside the Mac Pro Cheese Grater Edition.

But what do I know?

Exactly my thoughts as well. May be "Portable" Computer mean something else?
 
This is probably a spec bump update. We know Dell will be shipping an Intel 10th generation Y-series Ice Lake processor in its XPS 13 2-in-1 in July. This is the same series processor used in the MacBook and MacBook Air.
Some info on these chips:

https://www.pocket-lint.com/laptops/news/intel/146552-intel-sunny-cove-ice-lake

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...ics-sunny-cove-thunderbolt-3-usb-c,39477.html

I have the 2018 MBA and while it is a fine computer the cpu is super weak. Hope a new chip results in real gains for that machine.
 
Some info on these chips:

https://www.pocket-lint.com/laptops/news/intel/146552-intel-sunny-cove-ice-lake

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...ics-sunny-cove-thunderbolt-3-usb-c,39477.html

I have the 2018 MBA and while it is a fine computer the cpu is super weak. Hope a new chip results in real gains for that machine.

That is not entirely Intel's fault, Apple decided against active cooling in 2018 MBAR, the CPU would throttle when ever you are pushing it hard for more than a few minutes.
 
The "Pro Team" predates the current macbook pro design which is why it's one of the worst apple products. The moron who was incharge of the trashcan mac pro was also in charge of the macbook pro. He is now gone... I'm looking forward to seeing how they can make it better with the 16". I had a 2013 and now a 2016 mbp and desperately looking to upgrade but won't do so until they redesign it. I'll beat a dead horse here and say I want better cooling and keyboard. USBC doesn't bother me.
 
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