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Apple Rejects Valve's Steam Link App Due to 'Business Conflicts'
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Nope still seems about the right response. If adding a Web browse that allows you to buy things outside of Apple's 30% was an issue then all other remote access applications should also be banned from the AppStore because they allow the same thing. Access to a Web Browser running on the "server" (home computer) hardware. So does just opening Safari on iOS, or Chrome, or any 3rd party browser.
Likewise Apple could have pointed out to Valve the bug with Big Picture Mode and rejected it on those grounds, until at bug was fixed. Which doesn't seem to be the case here at all.
Apple has some explaining to do. And they will likely have to do it to EU regulators before long.
Hardly. Some of the very first remote access apps were targeted at steaming various from of entertainment form a home server (personal computer) to an iOS device. The early ones were mostly video and audio content that wasn't formatted for iOS. Then there were "game pad" apps that turned iOS devices into wireless controllers. And even then there were full game play remote access programs.
I used to use one called everyAir before it was "acqui-hired" in 2011.
http://www.bertolami.com/everyair/
There has been a long history of remote access Apps for running "games" off home PC/Macs. Apple is just targeting Valve because they're a high profile and focused primarily on being a game shop/hub as their core business.
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Now this is some BS. I don't think the app was useful in the first place, but what exactly is the reason it should be banned? They broke no rules. Is it just that Apple hates games?
You got that right. Apple doesn't really give but they sure are good about taking it away. I can't count the games and apps that I purchased only to have Apple pull it from the App Store. They got their 30% cut and I as a customer am left with nothing. Once its gone from the store you are out whatever it cost you to buy it in the first place.
Mother yells to daughter: "stop playing video games on that iPad and come eat your dinner"
Daughter asks her mother:"whats a video game?"
Daughter asks her mother:"whats a video game?"
With what, the RX580 you have to fight against Ethereum miners for? And you have to update all your hacks every time you update the OS. I've been down that route, and it's nothing but pain with little gain.the beauty of the hackintosh is that with the right video card, i get both.
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You don't have a decent terminal emulator (or any good dev tools for that matter), a way to reliably tell which apps are running, a way to not get spied on 24/7 by your OS vendor, a proper network settings page (with VPN support), iMessage, a password manager, any automation tools, or any well-advised peace of mind wrt security. And generally it's just a PitA to use for work.
What you do have is GPUs, proper drivers for them, and no BS when it comes to running games.
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If you want to build an RX 580 PC, you can get an AMD Combat Crate.
It costs $25 more than what it should now individually.
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It's nice, but it comes with stuff you don't want for a Hackintosh build, namely everything except the GPU, since Hackintosh on an AMD CPU is hard or impossible.
/shrug Hackintoshes are considered PCs, aren't they? Oh well. Yeah, if you're running Windows or Linux, it's reasonable. But I'd still probably go with Nvidia.
I said PC to note I was not talking about hacks.
There are valid technical reasons to choose an AMD GPU, not just price.
for you i suppose. its been smooth sailing for me for years now. the Clover bootloader is a remarkable piece of software. I get multiple PCIe expansion slots, thunderbolt, onboard firewire, and even PCI slots, which amazingly still work just fine 12 years after apple removed them. I pretty much have most of my connectivity needs, past, present, and future, all met here. and without having to buy dongles for them all. so i'd say ive gained a lot. but everybody's use case is different.
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This is complete and total BS. Apple refuses to produce consumer or pro grade devices with GPU’s to handle serious gaming. They also allow remote access apps. What’s the problem? I have zero desire to do serious gaming on a small screened iOS device but for those who do, why not allow it?
In what way would that interfere with their existing business? Gaming in native iOS apps will always trump this kind of app because you have to already own a gaming rig to make use of it. If Apple wants a piece of the gaming rig pie why don’t they offer consumer grade desktops and laptops with GPU’s that aren’t a complete and total joke?
Apps like this exist to solve the problem that Apple has created by refusing to offer serious gaming GPU’s across their consumer and pro product lines. If they can’t be bothered to offer a line of laptops and desktops with quality gaming GPU’s as add on options then why prevent others from trying to work around a situation Apple could, and should, make right?
The only valid reason would be if Apple decided it was going to produce either consumer or pro devices with options to upgrade to a good gaming GPU. If they don’t do so in 2019 then I’m done with them and will say hello to a Dell system that is easily upgradable along with a good gaming GPU I’ll install myself.
Apple has hundreds of thousands of customers, maybe millions of customers, lined up each with thousands of dollars they want to send Apple’s way who are completely and totally willing to pay the Apple tax on systems with good gaming GPU’s. Apple’s reply: “Go $&*@ yourself. We don’t want your money. Oh, and the companies who do want to offer a workaround, they can go $&*@ themselves too.”
I can’t believe so many Apple executives make so much money for refusing to take customer’s money then doubling down by refusing to make money on app sales from developers who are trying to produce apps to fix a problem of Apple’s own making.
In what way would that interfere with their existing business? Gaming in native iOS apps will always trump this kind of app because you have to already own a gaming rig to make use of it. If Apple wants a piece of the gaming rig pie why don’t they offer consumer grade desktops and laptops with GPU’s that aren’t a complete and total joke?
Apps like this exist to solve the problem that Apple has created by refusing to offer serious gaming GPU’s across their consumer and pro product lines. If they can’t be bothered to offer a line of laptops and desktops with quality gaming GPU’s as add on options then why prevent others from trying to work around a situation Apple could, and should, make right?
The only valid reason would be if Apple decided it was going to produce either consumer or pro devices with options to upgrade to a good gaming GPU. If they don’t do so in 2019 then I’m done with them and will say hello to a Dell system that is easily upgradable along with a good gaming GPU I’ll install myself.
Apple has hundreds of thousands of customers, maybe millions of customers, lined up each with thousands of dollars they want to send Apple’s way who are completely and totally willing to pay the Apple tax on systems with good gaming GPU’s. Apple’s reply: “Go $&*@ yourself. We don’t want your money. Oh, and the companies who do want to offer a workaround, they can go $&*@ themselves too.”
I can’t believe so many Apple executives make so much money for refusing to take customer’s money then doubling down by refusing to make money on app sales from developers who are trying to produce apps to fix a problem of Apple’s own making.
I'd actually recommend any of the new Chromebook 2-in-1's or the new Acer Chromebook Tablet because they can run Android apps plus chromebook apps AND you can natively run Linux apps as well through Crostini. I use my pixel book for everything, it's really awesome!
Im not the one you asked, but I've got three hacks in the house, all OS updates installed, and never an issue. Its much different these days compared to how it used to be in the past. With clover even things you had to fiddle with very update (like built in audio etc) is all seamless now. Just a matter of choosing the right hardware to begin with.
That's the issue though, finding the hardware that'll always be right. I've tried Hackintoshing machines that work fine with certain versions of macOS but not others. Clover on an older HP Elitebook (forget which version) was a nightmare.
How many major OS updates have you gone through, and is it as easy as just pressing "update" in the App Store? My '09 Mac Pro has had every OS on it since Snow Leopard without any problems, unless you count the easy 5,1 firmware flash for Sierra+ that I had to do for the x5670 CPUs anyway.
I've been using hacks since 10.4 I cant remember the last issue updating, it was long ago. I went through the entire 10.11.x to 10.12.x series including the major upgrade from sierra to high sierrra, by just using it like a normal mac. Along the way I did do two small things. Update clover once in a while (pre-emptively before issues arrose), and recently change a few settings to get all my USB3 ports working at full speed.
I know things could change, and Apple could spring a horrible update for hacks along the way (and the Apple of today would probably purposely do that). Its the risk one knowingly takes I suppose.
sure. these days in hackintosh land the only time you really need to worry is major point releases when they make significant changes, like High Sierra. but even then its usually only a couple weeks before somebody in the community figures out how to make it work.
it really comes down to hardware selection on that constant updates. i do know some people who have regular issues with this, but getting the right hardware out of the gate is key to a trouble-free experience down the line.
I'm so glad to not be apart of this "ecosystem". There seems to be nothing but negativity for the customers, whether it be mac, iPhone, or iPad owners. At what point does one reach their boiling point from being fed up with all of the limitations, lies, and secrecy? I hope that the majority of users who have expressed their frustrations, follow through with their decision of moving out of apples "garden". I know that i would be extremely unhappy having to deal with one bad thing after another.
I'd love to move out, but not to the google spy ecosystem. For me the hardest transition will be to move away from macOS, not because of the OS itself but because of the stunning applications 3rd parties have made to run on macOS.
The moment something like eelo or a linux/libre phone os is viable the transition is very doable for me.
But yes, its time people vote with their wallets when Apple makes decisions such as this SteamLink app rejection. It's the only thing the penny pincher on top understands.
It had to happen sooner or later: The fraction of Apple users who don’t care about the Mac and who even applaud new Apple’s “accept to do this or you will asked again tomorrow” nagging screens, had to be hit by the new Apple demolition machine at some point. It was unavoidable, guys, you don’t mean more to Apple than the other fraction: the ones who love the Mac and who always loved how in the past you could answer a permanent and definite “no” when you didn’t want to accept something from the system.
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Not buying an iMac Pro is the best thing you can do if you love the Mac: if the iMac Pro succeeds, say bye bye to the “promised” modular Mac Pro.
It's the same with any company I'm sorry to say.
If those at the top are, themselves, not personally interested in something, or have a personal dislike for something, that's it. It's dead in the water.
If Steve Jobs came from a Gaming background, and loved games (and other things of course) and refused to let hardware be compromised to the point it was not suitable for a game (world leading GPU's) then history would be totally different.
He ruined Apple for such "Entertainment" tasks, and the current management have none of their own personal ideas that are strong enough to change that legacy.
You are right, Apple could do it, people would love it, but they won't.
Simply as those at the top are not interested in that direction.
Such a shame