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Apple Releases 17'' MacBook Pro

Democrat622 said:
well, appleworks is better than m$ works, AND the 17" MBP DOES have 3 usb ports

my friend said fcp is bundled, i think he meant the banner that says it's universal on the MBP page, right?
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The Dell has 6, so by comparison the MBP misses out on 3 USB ports.

The MBP doesn't come bundled with Appleworks (at least in Australia).
It comes with this software ...

Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger (includes Spotlight, Dashboard, Mail, iChat AV, Safari, Address Book, QuickTime, iCal, DVD Player, Xcode Developer Tools)

iLife ’06 (includes iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie HD, iDVD, iWeb, GarageBand), iWork ’06 (30-day trial), FileMaker Pro trial, Omni Outliner
Photo Booth
Front Row
 
i just noticed that Apple still has the 12" powerbook listed on it's store. Does this mean that the Macbook will not be a replacemetn for the 12" PB and the 12 and 14 ibooks but instead there will be two models, 12/13" MBP and 13"macbook?
It is worth noting that each time Apple introduces a new intel line, that they upgrade the entire line. For example 17 and 20 inch iMacs, both cofigs of Mac Mini, and 15 and 17 inch powerbooks/macbook pros. I think this is going to show that there will at least be a ultra-portable mbp
 
Multimedia said:
Hey Mac Fly (film), please verify the 17" processor is also soldered directly to the mobo due to cooling and space issues. Thank you in advance for your help.
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Is he supposed to pry it open?:rolleyes:

We've seen deconstructed shots of the 15 MBP with how much room is between the top and the bottom of the motherboard, the chip is sandwiched with heat dispersing putty against the casing, there is NO room in that 1" thin for the socket itself so your answer is there is NO socket in these, no upgrade. But a mighty fine machine it is. I'm planning on buying as Merom wont see that great gains except slightly better battery life and it's a long LONG way before we see true 64 bit goodness, hell G5s have been around for three years with a virtually unused 64 bit goodness and we still never saw great gains on those over the G4s.
 
Earth to Mac zealots, please come in . . .

What website maintains an esitimate of real time mac sales from the Apple store(s).

I want to know how fast the 17" Macs, I so often endorsed, are NOW selling, since they are now a VALUE proposition.

Rocketman

Steve: Send me the private link. Thanks.
 
Multimedia said:
I use the ZOOM feature found in Universal Access all the time.
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Lol. Me too. It's great for reading things and doing puzzles from across the room on my 20" iMac. This is not on windows. I've tried to set it up and it looks terrible and is unusable. Another Apple OS positive.

barstard.
 
sartinsauce said:
Wow, cool beans, way to go Apple!

There's something I haven't seen anyone mention yet...

TS predicted this a week ago. Remember than next time you talk trash about TS. I know they've made some erroneous predictions in the past, and I know that the sun even shines on a dog's a** once in while. Nevertheless, give those cats a little credit for breaking a story...
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I've benefitted from Think Secret's predictions more than once. But it feels like right now, if you even say Think Secret 3 times, you'll get subpoena'd :)

Think Secret!

(honey, is that the doorbell?)
 
The thickness/thinness is the same as the 15" MacBook Pro, which is basically as thin as I think you would want a 17" portable. Any thinner and it probably wouldn't be structurally as stable as it is, because your still dealing with the properties of aluminium. Besides it feels like the perfect thickness!

I'm not sure if it's soldered or not, but at 2.16 Core Duo not many would care either way!


Here's some more snaps, they give you a look at ports/thinness.:D


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AidenShaw said:
When is Apple going to have docking stations again? What a mess of cables....
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what were docking stations anyway? ive only been a mac owner 6 months or so and i used macs at school my whole life, but we never had docking stations.

EDIT: i just remembered about docking stations. with bluetooth to to keybaord+mouse and a regular dvi output, airport for internet, a docking station would only add to cable clutter. wireless is the way to go!
 
I love that Apple waited just long enough to release the 17" so that almost all of my necessary applications with be Universal by the time I can get one. Now I just have to sell my 17" PowerBook and place my order!! :D
 
BlizzardBomb said:
It's actually $231 more. We pay have to pay VAT remember ;) Don't ask why it's still $231 more though, *cough* Rip-off Britain *cough cough*
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So if your office is buying a few, volunteer to be the guy who gets a cheap return flight to New York to buy them, and bring them back :)

Here in the states, I've considered flying to Portland, Oregon, several times for my next Mac, because there's no sales tax there, and, well, I used to live there and I miss it :) Too bad I probably can't get student pricing in the actual Apple store, though.
 
Yeah I basically came to the same conclusion and bought one as well... shipping by may 8th! How will I wait?



Photorun said:
Is he supposed to pry it open?:rolleyes:

We've seen deconstructed shots of the 15 MBP with how much room is between the top and the bottom of the motherboard, the chip is sandwiched with heat dispersing putty against the casing, there is NO room in that 1" thin for the socket itself so your answer is there is NO socket in these, no upgrade. But a mighty fine machine it is. I'm planning on buying as Merom wont see that great gains except slightly better battery life and it's a long LONG way before we see true 64 bit goodness, hell G5s have been around for three years with a virtually unused 64 bit goodness and we still never saw great gains on those over the G4s.
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*shrugs* Once upon a time I considered the 17" to be my baby. That changed over time as I realized how many places where a 17" laptop simply was not appropriate nor easily portable. No doubt for those who need that kind of workspace its going to work exceptionally well (Even though the res is pretty low considering how close we are to res independent OS from Apple.) but for me the amount of site to site travel that I do made the 15.5"er optimal size, weight, and screen real-estate.
 
maladroit said:
Great, a 3,000 dollar macbook pro, let me go sell my car to buy one...:eek:
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Comments such as these seem so out of left field, a computer is an investment, arguably considering the possibilities with a computer they could be considered to be worth MORE than a car. Apple computers probably hold their value better than crappy US car makes, that's for sure.

$3,000 doesn't seem that much as I make that every two weeks, maybe when I was in college or something that'd be a lot. 1/24th my yearly salary is well worth the oooh shiny metal goodness and that fresh computer smell!
 
SiliconAddict said:
*shrugs* Once upon a time I considered the 17" to be my baby. That changed over time as I realized how many places where a 17" laptop simply was not appropriate nor easily portable. No doubt for those who need that kind of workspace its going to work exceptionally well (Even though the res is pretty low considering how close we are to res independent OS from Apple.) but for me the amount of site to site travel that I do made the 15.5"er optimal size, weight, and screen real-estate.
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Agreed. I think the 15" is on the large side. 17" is a monster.
 
Multimedia said:
What is "SLI" and how do you rationalize a 5400rpm 100GB HD and NO Gigabit Ethernet? You are Screwed when you hook up to the network. The battery life is much lower. Apple's is 68 Watt Hour. And I don't see OS X being offered here. :rolleyes: :eek:
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I still haven't seen the need for gigabit ethernet, at home. I'm about to plug a 6 foot FW cable between my Mini and my PC, though, to get 400Mb/s instead of 100Mb/s. Besides, can you really save to disk faster than 35MB/s right now on your machine? A friend of mine with a 15" MBP and gigabit to his server says that's about where he tops out, and that's a dual Opteron server running Linux and serving Samba.

I admit, I could be totally wrong in thinking about this, but right now I just don't see why it's a must have. And if it is, can't I get a gigabit ether card for a PC laptop for $20-30 right now? :)
 
mackeeper said:
$2799 is frickin expensive!
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It is, but in 1999, that's about what bought me a Sony Vaio with a Pentium 3 running 750MHz, 512MB RAM, 15.4 inch screen (largest one on the market at the time) and something like a 40GB drive and a DVD-ROM. I had to buy a PCMCIA 10/100bT card for it, too. And it only lasted a couple of years before falling apart. And I babied it.

I expect that if if you actually plan to use this machine for 6 or 7 years, instead of the year or two that most readers here seem to keep theirs, it's really nice for the price. And, well, there are always smaller models, or the upcoming MacBooks :)

But if you need everything this has, 7 years = $400/year = $33.33/month to love the way you work. For 3 years only, yeah, $77.78/month doesn't sound that great :)
 
For Me, Gigabit Ethernet Is Essential

artifex said:
I still haven't seen the need for gigabit ethernet, at home. I'm about to plug a 6 foot FW cable between my Mini and my PC, though, to get 400Mb/s instead of 100Mb/s. Besides, can you really save to disk faster than 35MB/s right now on your machine? A friend of mine with a 15" MBP and gigabit to his server says that's about where he tops out, and that's a dual Opteron server running Linux and serving Samba.

I admit, I could be totally wrong in thinking about this, but right now I just don't see why it's a must have. And if it is, can't I get a gigabit ether card for a PC laptop for $20-30 right now? :)
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I really don't want to get into a protracted argument about the need for T1000 Ethernet. I have experienced file transfers and remote access to files between computers without it and it is PAINFULLY SLOW. OK? So please have a good time waiting for transfers. I don't have that time. For Me, Gigabit Ethernet Is Essential. That is why the 12" PowerBook G4 is a JOKE.
 
SiliconAddict said:
*shrugs* Once upon a time I considered the 17" to be my baby. That changed over time as I realized how many places where a 17" laptop simply was not appropriate nor easily portable.
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I'm curious, where do you find that the 17" was too big to go? I carry my 17" with me every single day and I don't ever feel bothered by its size. I'm a musician so maybe its just smaller than everything else I carry so I don't really think about it.
 
jaydub said:
Same here, although I'm not even sure I need dual layer burning, since I've never had it anyway.
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Honestly, the media costs are substantially more than for single layer, so unless you're doing something very specifically requiring that much space per disk, there's probably not a big need for it on a laptop.
 
twoodcc said:
i'm not so sure that you're right. it takes more power to spin faster, correct?
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This is the Internet, after all. Someone could get the model numbers for both drives, pull the specs from the vendors, and settle this.
 
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