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FYI -

I just got the case/remote added for free.

I didn't call, I filled out an email status request thing for my order, and said that when I ordered that the remote/case were listed as being included and I was wondering if I could get them at a reduced cost or something since they were listed when I ordered.

They were added today to my order.
 
Did Apple change the amp on the 4G iPod to make it sound better? Could someone who ordered/have a 4G iPod report on its sound quality compared to 3G iPod or Mini? I might get the 20GB 4G iPod if it sounds better than the previous version. And what's the amp power of the new 4G iPod? 10mW would be nice.
 
pepita said:
"International pricing issues" do not affect other computer products in the same way, especially by other brands. Also, please define "international pricing issues". Extra taxes do not necessarily apply to computer products; perhaps the iPod is classified differently. But in any case, whatever external issues there are, they wouldn't alone justify a 90 Euro increase.

Here is what I meant by that:

Speaking as a person who's 'real job' is to produce a product in the US and then ship it to other countries where it is sold in country.

We run into tarriff, warehousing differences. For example in some areas of Europe there is some type of 'warehouse tax' where what you have 'in stock' is taxed, so no one carries inventory, if you have to carry inventory it's extremely expensive, and reflected in prices of the item In Brazil we have to put a plant in Brazil to build at least 60% of the unit otherwise it's subject to a 40% tax.

Also in some countries (not as many as used to be) the US Dollar is worth a lot more so the cost in country is higher because of the US based manufacturing (even if built in Mexico for example) That's what I was thinking when I wrote that.


Yes, and it's a great thing. It's perfectly fine for an iBook G4 to be more convenient than an early iBook G3, for instance.

What I see as a bit of a joke in the iPod new pricing is that they're not doing an upgrade of that kind. We're not talking of that kind of extra jump. More reasonable prices and more decent batteries should have been the basics in the earlier ipods too.

The challenge here to me is that hard drive costs don't usually drop, just the density increases. For example a 3.5" 80GB HDD costs $50, 100GB costs $59, and 120GB costs $66 (per pricewatch). Six months from now that'll be 100/120/160 or even worse. The mechanical costs can't go down but the density increases

Not sure why people tolerate that and support it. It's getting to the point now that a person at home could easily have half a terrabyte of storage with no real way to back it up. That seems to be one deficiency of the Mac platform - no real easy way to backup your data.


Yeah, like that's such an intelligent comment. No one's talking of never buying any Apple products ever again; no one said the iPod is crap; not everything produced by other brands is a "piece of junk"

You're right. I snapped and I shouldn't have, some days I type to fast to let my rational thought take over. I apologize for snapping at you, in my defense I'd been reading through multiple posts where various whines were coming about ridiculous 'this doesn't have so it sucks' posts and I lumped your comments into that one.
 
regarding remote and case

Oh well...

disappointed. Apple UK couldn't do anything for me, despite them advertising the 40GB new iPod with case and remote online when I ordered and still not changing it 12 hours later!

Sales rep said it was company policy, and could only apologise for the mistake on the website (pah!). I got off the phone very unhappy. I'm still considering writing to them to voice my displeasure.

However I am still looking foward to getting the new iPod. The remote will just have to wait, and I'll hunt down a decent 3rd party case. Anybody got recommendations where I can get a good slimline iPod case in the UK?
 
sorry to add salt into the wounds... but my order has now been updated with a carry case and remote control for a penny each 🙂 (I think thats so they can actually get it on the order)

On a sadder note, the "ship on or before" date on the order has now increased to the 27th of July - I guess thats due to availability on the items... not a problem though!
 
moogman said:
sorry to add salt into the wounds... but my order has now been updated with a carry case and remote control for a penny each 🙂 (I think thats so they can actually get it on the order)

On a sadder note, the "ship on or before" date on the order has now increased to the 27th of July - I guess thats due to availability on the items... not a problem though!

Are you in the UK? If so, how did you manage to get them to do that for you?
 
I just rang them up, got passed around from pillar to post for a while... got someones voicemail, hung up... rang again... got through to someone who then put me through to "sales"

the nice lady on the end of the phone listened to what I had to say (just asked her if she could clarify what was going on, said I ordered yesterday at 3:30PM and the tech specs page said it had all the accs, also mentioned that I called this morning at 9am (which I did - after reading macrumors!), when the accs where still listed and spoke to someone else in "sales" and she confirmed that the 40gig ipod DID come with the accs mentioned. I then asked why the website had changed and who was right...) she put me on hold twice and then came back and said there had been a glitch on the web site and because I had ordered prior to the change that they would include the items in my order, and they have.

I think the key is getting the right person. I got no joy from anyone else and being put through to "sales" seems to help... I say "sales" in "" because once I rang the apple store 0800 number and pressed the numbers to go through to place an order (presumably sales?) and another time I pressed the button to go through with a current order (presumably post-sales?). Both departments said they had to put me through to "sales" though!

hth and good luck!

p.

oh.. and after all that... yes.. im in the uk 🙂
 
moogman said:
I just rang them up, got passed around from pillar to post for a while... got someones voicemail, hung up... rang again... got through to someone who then put me through to "sales"

the nice lady on the end of the phone listened to what I had to say (just asked her if she could clarify what was going on, said I ordered yesterday at 3:30PM and the tech specs page said it had all the accs, also mentioned that I called this morning at 9am (which I did - after reading macrumors!), when the accs where still listed and spoke to someone else in "sales" and she confirmed that the 40gig ipod DID come with the accs mentioned. I then asked why the website had changed and who was right...) she put me on hold twice and then came back and said there had been a glitch on the web site and because I had ordered prior to the change that they would include the items in my order, and they have.

I think the key is getting the right person. I got no joy from anyone else and being put through to "sales" seems to help... I say "sales" in "" because once I rang the apple store 0800 number and pressed the numbers to go through to place an order (presumably sales?) and another time I pressed the button to go through with a current order (presumably post-sales?). Both departments sad they had to put me through to "sales" though!

hth and good luck!

p.

oh.. and after all that... yes.. im in the uk 🙂


Thanks for that info. I suspect I should try again. I made my order at 6pm on Tuesday evening, only a few hours after yourself. This is worse from their point of view, as they aren't even being consistant
 
i would... i didnt get a "its not our fault we're doing nothing" atitude, she was apologetic in her explanation and had no qualms in adding the extras onto my order (presumably after she had checked with someone else - a supervisor perhaps?)
 
no wheel backlight...

Chances are that's just one of the many steps they'd taken to save on battery consumption. In my opinion, ditch as many of the extraneous glowy bits as possible, I'd rather hear my music. Besides, the location of the nav in incredibly intuitive so the glows serve little purpose here.

Occassionally even with Apple, form follows function. 🙂
 
I guess they assumed that one would automatically know which "click" did what in the dark. It is also an energy (battery life) saver.
 
i am returning my 3g?

i purchased a 40 gig, literally 3 days ago, but would love to get a 4g instead, i just need a longer battery, and the clickwheel is awesome. Can i return it cuz i simply want a new one? even tho there is nothing wrong?
 
jeff.macaddict said:
i purchased a 40 gig, literally 3 days ago, but would love to get a 4g instead, i just need a longer battery, and the clickwheel is awesome. Can i return it cuz i simply want a new one? even tho there is nothing wrong?

Doubt it, but you can always ask. I'd go to an Apple Store if possible, when the new iPods are available there.
–Chase
 
To be honest, it really doesn't make a difference to usability - I never looked at the controls of my 10GB 2G while using it - you just know what's where.
 
jeff.macaddict said:
i purchased a 40 gig, literally 3 days ago, but would love to get a 4g instead, i just need a longer battery, and the clickwheel is awesome. Can i return it cuz i simply want a new one? even tho there is nothing wrong?

Sure you can! I bought mine 1 1/2 weeks ago and returned it. You'll have to pay a 10% restocking fee though.
 
Apple Canada - 40gb case/remote

dmbfan said:
For all the Canadians out there, as of 12:26 am (man, I need to go to bed!), the 40 gig model is still listed on the tech spec page as coming with a dock, remote, and case.

The specs were still up on apple.ca this morning at 7 am pst when i called and after showing the page to the rep and a short pause on hold, i was given the case and remote for free. The specs have since been changed. Looks like apple had a fairly uniform response to this one across the board ...
 
I just ordered my iPod at my local apple resller, MacOutfitters. Even though I got the lazer engraving at the Apple website, I just liked the idea of actually picking it up at an actual store. I think its more exciting 🙂

By the way, they said it should be between 7 and 10 days to ship. Is how long most of you are waiting? (sorry, I don't feel like reading through 400 posts to find out)
 
If I follow the argument of the people saying that the 4G 20GB iPod is more expensive than the old one (when adding all the accessories), the 3G 15GB iPod was more expensive than the 3G 20GB iPod (as was the 3GB 10GB in respect to the 3G 20GB before that, etc.) and nowbody ever complained about that
 
nQuery said:
dmbfan said:
For all the Canadians out there, as of 12:26 am (man, I need to go to bed!), the 40 gig model is still listed on the tech spec page as coming with a dock, remote, and case.

The specs were still up on apple.ca this morning at 7 am pst when i called and after showing the page to the rep and a short pause on hold, i was given the case and remote for free. The specs have since been changed. Looks like apple had a fairly uniform response to this one across the board ...

No they didn't... not in Australia, where they somehow managed to have the specs 'correct' from the word go.

I've said this this to death so I apologise - just frustrating that they screwed up everywhere but for once, not here! 😉
 
allisonv7 said:
How do I know if I have USB 2.0 or 1.0?

This should work:
  • Open up System Properties (right click on "My Computer" and select "Properties")
  • Click the "Hardware" tab
  • Click the "Device Manager" button. The Device Manager window should open.
  • Scroll to the bottom of the list in the Device Manager window, and click on the "+" symbol in front of "Universal Serial Bus controllers"
  • If one of the entries in that section contains "USB 2.0" then you have it.
 
Shipping Tracking Status - Hasn't Changed

Hi everyone-

I posted earlier today, that my iPod 40gb shipped from China.

I paid $13 extra for OverNight FedEx -- But there hasnt been a new scan of this package the whole day.

Hoping it gets here tomorrow- if not I'll be calling apple and having them refund shipping charges that they charged me.

Big Deal that it's coming from Overseas, OverNight is OverNight Right?

Anyone elses tracking moved from China?
 
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