Every other year when I buy a new laptop I can deduct the price off my business taxes since I use it for work. I take a toughbook with my all the time.
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Every other year when I buy a new laptop I can deduct the price off my business taxes since I use it for work. I take a toughbook with my all the time.
I wouldnt be so quick to assume Steve is as clueless as you think he is. You dont go from being an orphan to a billionaire by being a fool.
I dont think that you understand that the number of people who have the means and the desire to buy Apple products but dont have a highspeed internet connection is already small and is shrinking by the second. Apple doesnt want all the market, only the top of it.
Every machine Apple shipped that could play Blue-Ray would help prop up the outdated business model of companies that have proven hostile to Apple. Steve in particular, and Apple in general, thinks about the future and the future is not physical media.
I wonder how many of you guys bashing Apple for the non removable battery have actually a spare one. Anyone? And how many of you having the spare with you?
The Sony AW Series has a 18" Screen HD (allthough 20% less vertical resolution ). But... weighs 30% more, runs only 90 min on battery, therefore needs 4 more spare batteries to come close to the new MBP (so it weighs 3x more with the batteries and would cost around 3K as a base model + 4 spares), has a mediocre screen (save for the high end one costing 4K without spare batteries) but yes, has Blu Ray. It's by no means a bad laptop, but you see how good the MBP is in comparison.
Anyone voluntering to carry the Sony + batteries? Come on guys, they can be changed. Play the DJ with batteries.
The Sony AW Series has a 18" Screen HD (allthough 20% less vertical resolution ). But... weighs 30% more, runs only 90 min on battery, therefore needs 4 more spare batteries to come close to the new MBP (so it weighs 3x more with the batteries and would cost around 3K as a base model + 4 spares), has a mediocre screen (save for the high end one costing 4K without spare batteries) but yes, has Blu Ray. It's by no means a bad laptop, but you see how good the MBP is in comparison.
Anyone voluntering to carry the Sony + batteries? Come on guys, they can be changed. Play the DJ with batteries.
What a load of...... wonderfully clear post!
Why people think apple wants to be the new microsoft is beyond me, especially when THEY PUBLICALLY STATE there are parts of the market they don't want to deal with.
So your saying physical media will be done away with and everything will be down online though the itunes store?
I wont happen. Not yet, anyway, and when it does, apple wont be the only one doing it.
Physical media is never going to be eliminated in our lifetime. Apple has seemed to be taking our decisions away from us more and more each year. most obviously the removal of the choice of glossy or matte in a lot of their models. Support and the option to add blu ray should be given. The quality of the itunes HD can't even come close to a blu ray disk. iTunes isn't giving you 25-50gb movie files that a bu ray gives. I really hope this current trend of making decision for us stops and give us more choice. If theirs one thing apple can learn from Dell its that. Also would like to see dell like pricing but thats a dream thats not gonna come true.
Physical media is never going to be eliminated in our lifetime. Apple has seemed to be taking our decisions away from us more and more each year. most obviously the removal of the choice of glossy or matte in a lot of their models. Support and the option to add blu ray should be given. The quality of the itunes HD can't even come close to a blu ray disk. iTunes isn't giving you 25-50gb movie files that a bu ray gives. I really hope this current trend of making decision for us stops and give us more choice. If theirs one thing apple can learn from Dell its that. Also would like to see dell like pricing but thats a dream thats not gonna come true.
People are saying this because of apple's move to remove the floppy drive from their computers. That WAS bound to happen anyway, once 2000 came around. As for physical media, it may be done with, but not anytime soon. It will be with us for a long time,
You are not buying 8gb of RAM, you are buying 4gb. Granted it seems that 2x2 only costs ~$100
for some reason crucial only charges 499 for a single 4gb chip
http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT51264BC1067
but 1179 for the set.
I understand the removal of the floppy drive. What i don't understand is not having blu ray. Its not a dieing or aging form of media and it is definitely catching on and will continue to grow. The bu ray section in the store I work has doubled in size in just the last few months.
Exactly. If blu-ray was on its way out, then why bother creating a new format? Why not end the physical media with plan old DVD?
The target store in my town went from just a small 4 foot section in the middle of the regluar DVDs, to an entire isle (around 12 feet) by it self.. It may just be that one side of the isle (the other side is TV shows), but its a large improvement,.
People complain about blu-ray becauses its still a bit expenesive, just like they complained about DVD, over 10 years ago.
.Chris and Blackhand1001: Get back to me in 5 years and let's see if rotating disks of any type are still the preferred option.
No ones saying anything about it being a "preferred" option, we are just saying that it wont go away. Many are saying we wont see them anymore.....
So your saying physical media will be done away with and everything will be down online though the itunes store?
I wont happen. Not yet, anyway, and when it does, apple wont be the only one doing it.
Why not? Is there any reason you can come up with besides the need for greater bandwith? (which is only a matter of time) Steam, the App store, netflix download service, itunes, amazon mp3 store, etc etc these are the future.
Physical media is never going to be eliminated in our lifetime. Apple has seemed to be taking our decisions away from us more and more each year. most obviously the removal of the choice of glossy or matte in a lot of their models. Support and the option to add blu ray should be given. The quality of the itunes HD can't even come close to a blu ray disk. iTunes isn't giving you 25-50gb movie files that a bu ray gives. I really hope this current trend of making decision for us stops and give us more choice. If theirs one thing apple can learn from Dell its that. Also would like to see dell like pricing but thats a dream thats not gonna come true.
Poor you. Good thing Dell would be happy, even desperate, to sell you a computer.
Why do you think that a company like Apple can literally sell its products as fast as they can produce them, at a hefty mark up, while Dell scrimps by with ~4% net profit? Maybe more choice isnt always the answer?
May be not everyone can afford it. I have Verizion Fiber optic but I know a lot of people who cant afford any internet at all and they get theirs off a nighboor or go town to a local coffe shop or restrunt.
What you guys are saying is blu-ray will die, and thats not true. Blu-ray will not only contune to grow in the living room, but it will make a huge impact on computers.
I agree, internet downloads will grow, but so will blu-ray. Dont say it will die just ebcause you cant afford it your self, there are many people who dream of this, and the blu-ray disc beats any apple/amazon store download, for those who care about sound and video quality, as well as the features blu-ray disc comes with. (a lot more the DVD)
No FW 400!
What they are thinking? That I am stupid?
This MacWord is a farse.
Downloading Linux...
What they are thinking? That I am stupid?
This MacWord is a farse.
Downloading Linux...
.Chris: You criticized someone's grammar a few pages back...and yet here you are butchering the English language. Granted, maybe English isn't your first language...but if that's the case, you shouldn't really be criticizing other people's grammar, should you? If that isn't the case, and English IS your first language, then maybe the Macbook Wheel is for you.
Yes, I registered just to say that.
Oh, and for all you people saying the new 17" is too much money...it's exactly the same price (in North America) as the previous version. Better specs, better design, new tech battery (that will really only be a nuisance to <1% of Apple consumers) FOR THE EXACT SAME PRICE!
The last revision of notebooks saw prices go UP for the new models...were you honestly expecting them to go down this time?
For people in countries other than North America, it's not the fault of Apple if the prices went up for you...that's the fault of exchange rates.
OK, so disks won't die because not everyone can afford internet, but Blu-Ray will survive even though most people can't afford it? What kind of twisted logic is that? If it's cost that's the issue, downloads will always beat out physical media. If it's bandwidth, you might have an argument, but not on a cost-benefit ratio.
jW
I'm just saying that discs wont just "die" like people are saying. You have to be stupid to think of that. They will still charge for downloads, and yet you wont get the same quality as blu-ray gives you, highest will be 720p and thats just the starting point for HD. Bandwidth is very well an issue, let alone those who not opnlyn want to watch on their TVs, but also on their computers when they are on vacation....
The real issue is blu-ray as a whole, it wont just "die"
I wish apple would just add blu-ray or say that they wont do it. Then this whole blu-ray argument between apple fans can just end.
I seem to be late to the forums on this but my $.02:
1)I think the new 17" book is extremely cool looking and overall asthetics are extremely pleasing.
2)I think the new product is overpriced. I know some folks will dish out $2800 + tax for a laptop when a lower cost model will do just fine...but I think given the state of the WORLD economy, this may be a slow seller.
3)There was some chatter about Blu-Ray on this thread...my opinion, and most industry insiders/authors/reports agree with me is that Blu-Ray will soon be dead if Sony and their friends don't quickly get their act together. I agree with Apple, that for numerous reasons, BR is a waste on ANY laptop...and probably a waste on ANY desktop. But the death of BR is a topic for another thread...you can easily find articles all over major news outlets about its upcoming death.
I hope Apple will release a decent update to the Mini and iMac...
-Eric
1)I think the new 17" book is extremely cool looking and overall asthetics are extremely pleasing.
2)I think the new product is overpriced. I know some folks will dish out $2800 + tax for a laptop when a lower cost model will do just fine...but I think given the state of the WORLD economy, this may be a slow seller.
3)There was some chatter about Blu-Ray on this thread...my opinion, and most industry insiders/authors/reports agree with me is that Blu-Ray will soon be dead if Sony and their friends don't quickly get their act together. I agree with Apple, that for numerous reasons, BR is a waste on ANY laptop...and probably a waste on ANY desktop. But the death of BR is a topic for another thread...you can easily find articles all over major news outlets about its upcoming death.
I hope Apple will release a decent update to the Mini and iMac...
-Eric
2. It is, as many said before, you are just buying for the name. Theres no reason whats so ever it should cost that much . I can see 2099, but 2800?
3. I really dont see any problem with blu-ray at the moment. Its still new. and no, its not a waste on computers. People said the same when DVD drives started to show up on computers, Watching videos on the computer? thats what the tv is for" but look at them now. Like I said, it will get better as time goes on, not only for the TV, but for the computer. We will start to see more blu-ray burners. And guess what? The ones complaning will be the ones getting it. Its always end up like that. They will also say "nope, that won't happen" but just watch...
So explain something. Those screaming :"blu-ray will die soon!" are you saying it will die as a whole or just on computers? because if you are saying as a whole, then look back at what you said about DVDs, VHS, etc.. Those took almost 10, 15 years to end up "dieing" and VHS, just died not to long ago, after more then 30 years. DVD is still in its mid years...
Yes, it will die, but not anytime soon... I think blu-ray may be the longest living formatt, with small improvements here and there..... HD is the thing now, weather you like it or not
Yes and no...the whitebook is still selling for $999. You can easily find a Windows laptop with similar or superior specs for A LOT less than $999. But the reason people still get the Apple is for the simplicity of the OS, virus security/peace-of-mind, and innovative designs.
$2099 for a 17" laptop made out of aluminum, an Intel Core 2 Duo processor, a first-of-its kind battery, dedicated graphics and Leopard OS...you're dreaming.
He truly is, but the sad truth is that it's a complete nightmare that Apple would charge that much for a laptop that would get circles run around it by 15" laptops with more ports and a not $2800 price tag.
I rely on my Apple software EVERY SINGLE DAY, and now that I have Daylite and live by it as do a few others at my current job there's no way I could comfortably go back to Windows..... but I hate the anal raping that goes on.