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Apple Releases Aluminum Unibody 17" MacBook Pro

In my opinion this is an absolutely stunning piece of technology and engineering.

If I hadn't already got a 15" MacBook Pro and had the money to spare, I'd have one tomorrow :)
 
Shunnabunich said:
Again in my experience, the battery in my circa-December 2004 PB now has 266 load cycles to its name. However, whether by its aging process or by my cavalier attitude towards "taking care" of it, it now has TWENTY-EIGHT PERCENT of its original capacity left. This is after four years of mostly sitting on a desk while plugged in. It lasts one hour or less unplugged. If the new battery lasts 5 years, I can tell you it won't be keeping that lovely 8-hour figure the whole time.
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Why do you think battery technology is the same as it was four years ago?

Personally I'd rather have one 8 hour battery that I didn't have to swap out instead of two 4-5 hour batteries that required swapping.

This battery issue is such a non-issue.
 
Apple doesn't make luggables. Apple doesn't make mid-towers. Apple doesn't make netbooks or tablets. If you want those things, look elsewhere.

I look forward to the day when people get a handle on that. :rolleyes:
 
champ01 said:
Ok maybe I'm being to harsh sorry about that

But this is suppose to be the baddest laptop available... or what the hell is Pro standing for these days?

And I'm not even talking about what problems you gonna get when the battery goes dead on people when they are working on a project with a tight deadline

So you tell me where apple is selling these laptops to cause I don't think any real pro user can afford having these risks
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Honestly you REALLY need help. You're just looking for a reason to post something negative on this forum. Be honest with yourself, you had no intention of buying anything even if Apple offered something truly great.

Also WHO is their right mind would be working on a project with a tight deadline on battery power? If someone is on a deadline and working on a important project they will plug it into AC power. Gimme a break dude. :rolleyes:
 
So with the battery being integrated how hard is it going to be to replace ram on it... Since apple wants like $1200 for 8gig :eek:
 
stevo8 said:
So with the battery being integrated how hard is it going to be to replace ram on it... Since apple wants like $1200 for 8gig :eek:
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Can you show me where we can buy 8gb of DDR3 SODIMMS significantly cheaper then that?

http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=CT2KIT51264BC1067

Apple isnt gouging as much as they used to for RAM.

And if the new 17" with a non removable battery and unibody construction is anything like the Air with a non removable battery and unibody construction, it will be trivial to open it and get access to the HDD, battery and RAM.
 
killmoms said:
Apple doesn't make luggables. Apple doesn't make mid-towers. Apple doesn't make netbooks or tablets. If you want those things, look elsewhere.

I look forward to the day when people get a handle on that. :rolleyes:
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There was a time when Apple didn't make phones.:rolleyes:
 
numbersyx said:
So anti glare = matte or something better? Weird that the charge is $50 more if it is just a matte screen.
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I think they didn't want to make matte an option so they could have a line of computers that all look the same, but they did anyway because so many people were complaining about the glossy screens.

If they charge an "upgrade" fee for the matte, they can make it seem as though the glossy screen is the normal one that everyone buys, as well as the ones they will use for their advertisements, or in other promotions, etc. because they really want to push the glossy look on us.

I bet a month from now, when the MacBook Pro 17's are on display at Apple stores, all of the displayed notebooks will be glossy except for one.
 
Well... As much as I want Apple to make me an enthusiast's laptop... It's all about making money and Apple is trying to appeal to the broadest market. A bit pro and a bit consumer. That fine-line balance between cool factor and bringing in the cha-ching. Keeping the choices to a minimum allows Apple to maximize their profit I bet.
I consider it a nice move forward, but, all things considered (even what I said just above), Apple really could offer more options. And, still, I am considering updating from my 2.33 C2D to this one... Typical quandary these days.
 
Mr.Gadget said:
Well... As much as I want Apple to make me an enthusiast's laptop... It's all about making money and Apple is trying to appeal to the broadest market. A bit pro and a bit consumer. That fine-line balance between cool factor and bringing in the cha-ching. Keeping the choices to a minimum allows Apple to maximize their profit I bet.
I consider it a nice move forward, but, all things considered (even what I said just above), Apple really could offer more options. And, still, I am considering updating from my 2.33 C2D to this one... Typical quandary these days.
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I see your point to an extent...BUT...Did it ever occur to you that keeping limited options helps maintain profitability? Notice how Dell offers a million different customizations for their computers and Apple offers just a few. When you have a bunch of customization offers the company has to keep plenty of spare parts for those options. If those parts don't get used for customization then the company (DELL or Apple) gets jacked and has a lot of left over stock.
Notice how several PC companies including Dell now sell their PC's just about ANYWHERE? They will sell a PC at your local Supermarket if they can. Dell used to be online exclusively but they have lost profit and now they're pushing their crap at many brick n mortars.
Apple on the other hand has made a lot of profit and sells their Macs at very few places such as Best Buy and Fry's. Apple is a smart company, I'm not saying that they please everyone but keeping customization limited is a smart idea, business wise. You can't cater to ALL customers.
 
What's the deal with Blu-Ray?

tritonus said:
unibody: go
battery: go
matte option: go
HD display: go
no blu-ray option: no-go
price/performance ratio: no-go
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Who needs Blu-Ray?
It's based on old technology. I'm looking forward to never having to deal with plastic discs again...
 
Replaceable HD

But does it have a user replaceable HD?

That to me would be more important than the battery. I never take out the battery nor would I want upgrade it if it is already better than anything anybody makes. My only problem is if it breaks, but the same can be said about anything else other than the HD and RAM.

The Stig
 
HLdan said:
I see your point to an extent...BUT...Did it ever occur to you that keeping limited options helps maintain profitability? Notice how Dell offers a million different customizations for their computers and Apple offers just a few. When you have a bunch of customization offers the company has to keep plenty of spare parts for those options. If those parts don't get used for customization then the company (DELL or Apple) gets jacked and has a lot of left over stock.
Notice how several PC companies including Dell now sell their PC's just about ANYWHERE? They will sell a PC at your local Supermarket if they can. Dell used to be online exclusively but they have lost profit and now they're pushing their crap at many brick n mortars.
Apple on the other hand has made a lot of profit and sells their Macs at very few places such as Best Buy and Fry's. Apple is a smart company, I'm not saying that they please everyone but keeping customization limited is a smart idea, business wise. You can't cater to ALL customers.
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They'd appeal to a broader market if they dropped the price too - but maybe some collaboration between marketing and accounting decided that losing some of the perceived quality, top-end, niche etc image would be a non profitable move.
They save money by offering the same hardware in a bigger box with standardized case manufacturing and offering no customization, while still charging a large price premium.
They should have a board with 4 ram slots in a computer like this, and if they've got a new board they should probably offer even two tier range of more powerful and workstation gpus.
Most options are just oem components that they can swap in easily, I think they should offer far more.
Selling computers wherever they can is a 'smart business move' surely? Doesn't cost them anything and there's the potential for more custom? People buying in the high street are probably far less educated about their purchases and (ignorantly) willing to pay more.
Dell offer a million customizations on a vast range of products, yet still sell their machines for less. From a customers point of view, surely that is a 'smart idea' and where your money should be going - it'll be better for an 'apple fan' in the long run, if next time you make a purchase you get more for less.
 
Mr.Gadget said:
It's all about making money and Apple is trying to appeal to the broadest market. A bit pro and a bit consumer. That fine-line balance between cool factor and bringing in the cha-ching. Keeping the choices to a minimum allows Apple to maximize their profit I bet.
I consider it a nice move forward, but, all things considered (even what I said just above), Apple really could offer more options.
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This is true, but I also believe the economy played a huge roll. It comes down to people not wanting to spend money. The fear of losing their jobs and not being able to pay off debt. By keeping it simple they will still continue to sell in the current recession. I understand that to many $1,000 to $5,000 my not be too much, but if you are in an unstable job you're not going to take the risk.
 
The Stig said:
But does it have a user replaceable HD?

That to me would be more important than the battery. I never take out the battery nor would I want upgrade it if it is already better than anything anybody makes. My only problem is if it breaks, but the same can be said about anything else other than the HD and RAM.

The Stig
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Depends how you define "user replaceable"

To answer your question, obviously not easy as in the 15" MacBook Pro and MacBook, but no more difficult then in the old MacBook Pros. I'm sure here once you take off the bottom lid you'll have full access to both the RAM and the HD
 
InkMaster said:
Depends how you define "user replaceable"

To answer your question, obviously not easy as in the 15" MacBook Pro and MacBook, but no more difficult then in the old MacBook Pros. I'm sure here once you take off the bottom lid you'll have full access to both the RAM and the HD
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"user replaceable" as in how the new MBP15 and the MB (current and last model) are replaceable without taking it apart.

I wonder where the ram comes out... I wonder if the HD is sitting right there too like in the MBP15 and MB (current and last model).

The Stig
 
The Stig said:
"user replaceable" as in how the new MBP15 and the MB (current and last model) are replaceable without taking it apart.
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You really don't have to take apart the 17", or the 15" to replace the RAM. You just take off the bottom cover and it's all right there.

It's not like replacing the hard disk in an old 15" MBP, where you have to actually disassemble significant pieces of the machine.
 
dal20402 said:
You really don't have to take apart the 17", or the 15" to replace the RAM. You just take off the bottom cover and it's all right there.

It's not like replacing the hard disk in an old 15" MBP, where you have to actually disassemble significant pieces of the machine.
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I wasn't trying to say you had to take it apart. I know where and how to put in the ram. I'm just wondering, if there is no door for the battery then there must be one for the RAM somewhere. I wonder is the HD is there too. We'll have to wait and see I guess...

The Stig
 
I am also curious about how serviceable the hard disk is. I hope when they ship that some people take them apart :D
 
so, how long until Apple ditches the dvd drive? they did it to floppy, why not? if it means an even bigger battery, and maybe improved cooling for a faster processor or video card, why not?

it's almost time to consider dropping ethernet, too. they've already done it on the MBA.

more space and $ available for the go-fast bits is better, overall.
 
Thanatoast said:
so, how long until Apple ditches the dvd drive? they did it to floppy, why not? if it means an even bigger battery, and maybe improved cooling for a faster processor or video card, why not?

it's almost time to consider dropping ethernet, too. they've already done it on the MBA.

more space and $ available for the go-fast bits is better, overall.
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Heh, I'd love to give up the optical drive if the space could be filled with an extra battery which would give me 3-4 more hours :)
 
Thanatoast said:
so, how long until Apple ditches the dvd drive? they did it to floppy, why not? if it means an even bigger battery, and maybe improved cooling for a faster processor or video card, why not?

it's almost time to consider dropping ethernet, too. they've already done it on the MBA.

more space and $ available for the go-fast bits is better, overall.
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...and video-out! And USB! And...aah, what the hell, that MagSafe jack is just taking up space, anyway...
 
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