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I think I paid $500(?) for Aperture 1.0 when it came out.

There was no competition back then. Lightroom came out a few months later.

Even with all the competitive upgrades, Aperture is still better than Lightroom. Lightroom is more of a cheap Photoshop, and Aperture is more of a hardcore organizational tool. I rarely use Photoshop, as Aperture with plugins work fine. Mostly just use photoshop for repair brush only.

Aperture is much more useful than Lightroom if you shoot or organize thousands of photos a day, or if you have multiple photographers in an organization. I have to deal with photographers around the world.

Aperture's collaborative workflow needs improvement though - it needs to operate on a client-server database. I think the limit is that it's database uses TinySQL, which is single-user only, instead of a more robust multi-user database like MySQL.

Otherwise, I don't know how Apple could improve Aperture further.
Really? It's really slow compared to lightroom if you have a lot of photos, and start browsing & rating. On a MacBook retina of 3000 euro ... Maybe i do somerhing wrong.
 
Really? It's really slow compared to lightroom if you have a lot of photos, and start browsing & rating. On a MacBook retina of 3000 euro ... Maybe i do somerhing wrong.

I have exact opposite experience. Browsing and editing large amount of photos is faster with Aperture compared to LR 4. Didn't try 5 though.
 
I bought it on CD and today it showed up in the App Store under updates, just like last few updates...
 
I've been stitched up by Apple here. The Aperture update has higher system requirements than both the older version I used to run, and of Mavericks. So, suckered in by the promise of Mavericks running great on older hardware I've now got a version of Aperture that I can never run or downgrade.
 
I also bought Aperture 3 on disk, just a few months before it debuted on the MAS at a lower price. Anyway I have never had problems updating it via the MAS. I remember at some time in the past I was able to use my serial number to tie my disk purchase to the MAS. I also had no problem updating to 3.5 last night.
 
Just now, Apple offered to associate my Aperture 3.5 installation with my App Store account. Now it shows up as a purchase and I updated it on all my machines without trouble.

It's about time! No more having to enter three freaking serial numbers (been upgrading since 1.0!) every time I want to install it.
 
I'm trying to find a UI arrangement where it looks like the one in the photo and I can't. I have a 27" iMac display and there's no way the HUD gets that narrow. Also, the spacing between thumbnails is much tighter. What tool is that multi colour bar in?

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Phil did say "a new version of Aperture" but I guess that can mean a point update but I'm inclined to think this is a new version.

The multi-color bar is just from the Color tool. You can see in the image (if you zoom in a bit) that they are individual swatches and not a single color gradient. The spacing of the thumbnails is a bit tight, but you can probably adjust that or it's the screen size that makes the difference.

I'm afraid that isn't the new version. But, since Aperture is now the oldest piece of in active development Apple software without a big update a new version can't be far of. I think we'll see it when it's done. Just like Logic X
 
Which, I presume (hope!) means that when you edit the caption in FB it will no longer rename the version in Aperture next time it syncs.

Taken Apple long enough to fix this but better late than never I guess


One can only hope. I never quite understood why Aperture was allowing FB to change names.
 
No Updates for my Pro Apps

I read the "trick" in another thread. Create a new account with administrator privileges called "TEST". Log in and run Update from there. You will see Aperture as well as any iWork apps you installed from DVD. Enjoy!

The "Trick" didn't work for me, and I have the exact same problem with Logic X which is stuck in version 10.0.1.
 
Apple did not screw early adopters.

That's the major reason why I want this update. Looks like Apple is screwing over early adopters. There's no update available if you purchased it on disc. :mad:

I purchased mine on disk and the update came through last night on the app store. No worries.
 
A full day has passed and there still isn't a download on their Support Downloads page for a standalone 3.5 update.

Weak performance, Apple. Especially when people are reporting problems or if they are supposed to do these "tricks" (which haven't worked for me numerous times)

And if I used Aperture AND iPhoto and had updated iPhoto I'd have some VERY fun times now. ;)

Step it up, so many updates and you forget to put a standalone update installer online for pro software that originally did ship on discs? Ouch...

Glassed Silver:mac
 
I'm trying to find a UI arrangement where it looks like the one in the photo and I can't. I have a 27" iMac display and there's no way the HUD gets that narrow. Also, the spacing between thumbnails is much tighter. What tool is that multi colour bar in?

Image

Phil did say "a new version of Aperture" but I guess that can mean a point update but I'm inclined to think this is a new version.

Either way, we know from hiring and from general common sense that Apple is working on a new version of Aperture. What we're all dying to find out is not "if" but "when". I think timed with the release of the new Mac Pro makes sense.

On 3.5: so there's no way to update to Aperture 3.5 if you bought it on disc?

1. The HUD is that narrow because as Phil said, that is a 4k display. Much higher res than your 27" monitor. This is also why the spacing between thumbnails looks tighter (he has the thumbnails much larger, but enlarging thumbnails doesn't enlarge the spacing between them).

2. The color "bar" is the Colors adjustment panel. Has been in Aperture 3 forever.

3. DVD-based Aperture installs will be upgraded to Aperture 3.5. Some suggest waiting. For me, going to App Store > Featured > Quick Links > Account > Reset Warnings made Aperture (old DVD-installed version) show up in Updates (once I did that on one computer, it showed up on all computers on that account). Others have suggested that changing from non-English to English in the system language fixed the lack of updates. This applies to Aperture, iWork, and iLife DVD-originated installs.

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Still no Update option for me and Apple's Support Downloads page doesn't show the 3.5 update either.

Heck, there aren't even release notes for this version in German!
Did they just compile it or what? Come on Apple, step it up.

And yes, I tried both the US American and German Support Downloads pages. Nothing!
http://support.apple.com/downloads/#professionalsoftware
http://support.apple.com/de_DE/downloads/#professionalsoftware

Glassed Silver:mac

Change your system language to English and see if that fixes it (then change back, obviously). It appears that non-English Mavericks installs aren't seeing the updates, but flipping that preference temporarily fixes the problem permanently.
 
1. The HUD is that narrow because as Phil said, that is a 4k display. Much higher res than your 27" monitor. This is also why the spacing between thumbnails looks tighter (he has the thumbnails much larger, but enlarging thumbnails doesn't enlarge the spacing between them).

2. The color "bar" is the Colors adjustment panel. Has been in Aperture 3 forever.

3. DVD-based Aperture installs will be upgraded to Aperture 3.5. Some suggest waiting. For me, going to App Store > Featured > Quick Links > Account > Reset Warnings made Aperture (old DVD-installed version) show up in Updates (once I did that on one computer, it showed up on all computers on that account). Others have suggested that changing from non-English to English in the system language fixed the lack of updates. This applies to Aperture, iWork, and iLife DVD-originated installs.

Thanks, setting the language to English did the trick.
I'll keep this in mind for later on, I'm sure this will come in handy sometime again. :)

Glassed Silver:mac
 
It would be amazing to have those features be nondestructive and not take up that space with High-Rez Tiffs.

Fair point, but I usually immediately transfer my edited files over to my HD storage drives instead of leaving on my laptop, so it's never really been an issue.
 
Well, it appears Aperture 3.5 REQUIRES Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). That would explain why no upgrade is showing up for me. I'm still running 10.7 (Lion) because that's as high as I can go on my Mac Pro 1,1 (2006 model).

Mark
 
Well, it appears Aperture 3.5 REQUIRES Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks). That would explain why no upgrade is showing up for me. I'm still running 10.7 (Lion) because that's as high as I can go on my Mac Pro 1,1 (2006 model).

Mark

It's sad isn't it…? Just one day after Mavericks was launched, Aperture's already made obsolete on Mountain Lion… :mad::mad:
 
I think the trick is just same as the iWork updates: change the system language to English if it's not.
 
A full day has passed and there still isn't a download on their Support Downloads page for a standalone 3.5 update.

Weak performance, Apple. Especially when people are reporting problems or if they are supposed to do these "tricks" (which haven't worked for me numerous times)

And if I used Aperture AND iPhoto and had updated iPhoto I'd have some VERY fun times now. ;)

Step it up, so many updates and you forget to put a standalone update installer online for pro software that originally did ship on discs? Ouch...

Glassed Silver:mac

There won't be a standalone update. If you update from a non MAS version to A3.5 the update gets tied to your AppleID and shows up in the purchases tab of the MAS.

It is fairly clear that this and all future updates will be via the MAS not standalone updates.
 
just now, apple offered to associate my aperture 3.5 installation with my app store account. Now it shows up as a purchase and i updated it on all my machines without trouble.

It's about time! No more having to enter three freaking serial numbers (been upgrading since 1.0!) every time i want to install it.

how did they offer?
 
I updated. To Lightroom last year. Haven't looked back.

Haha, yeah me too...but I would switch back in a heartbeat if I saw an update come out that was even close to as good as Lightroom. I really hate what Adobe is doing with their CreativeCloud nonsense. Apple is ripe to add Photoshop like features to Aperture to get me out of Adobe software for good. I'm still holding out hope, but come on already, Adobe is eating Apple's lunch in this area.
 
Unlike earlier releases, this one isn't appearing in updates (mine is a DVD purchase) so it looks like I'll have to pay $80 to get it.

However I don't see any new features worth even $1. :(

I just got off the line with Apple Support talking to a smarmy customer support person… ugh

He says if you upgrade to Mavericks, Aperture will automatically be updated to be in the Mac App Store and do the upgrade to 3.5. He got smarmy when I told him people in the blogs for Aperture were having this done WITHOUT moving to Mavericks. I have some specific company based issues where I can't move my personal computer used for work to Mavericks yet. I had made a partition on my iMac and installed Mavericks but unless I install Aperture on that partition it will not upgrades says the tech.
 
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