Something else that Aperture doesn't have: some simple image "enhancements" like Edge Blur. It is a nice effect that would be nice to have to Aperture.
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Something else that Aperture doesn't have: some simple image "enhancements" like Edge Blur. It is a nice effect that would be nice to have to Aperture.
The purchaser thought Aperture 2 was worth $199. The product has not changed so they got the value that they expected. Apple have never offered the sort of protection under discussion and any reasonably wise purchases (especially one who cared about such things) would have researched this and be aware of it.
anyone else who is having the crashing like me, the solution seems to be that you have to let the app complete the 'processing' in the background before it becomes stable...
all ive had is crash crash crash, but this has stopped it.
one thing, ive only loaded up 650mb of pics, yet its been processing for 5 mins...
all ive had is crash crash crash, but this has stopped it.
one thing, ive only loaded up 650mb of pics, yet its been processing for 5 mins...
Buy NIK... if you do a lot of images
Not sure how much overlap there is with the new features just added... but the NIK suite is a killer addition. But the complete collection, it is only a bit more than one of the packages in the suite.
Been using them for over a year now, and don't know how I ever lived without it. Worth every penny (don't say that a lot). The level of control you have over your images is amazing. The use of pickable "control-points" lets you get at parts of your pics you could never get at (so quick & easily at least). Aperture2 & NIK was a gamechanger for me, and I have been chomping for 3.0 to come out.
Hopefully it is a bit faster, especially with really large libraries. I think they finally added the persistent sorting that iPhoto has (meaning if you quit, or shift between albums, you don't always default to the the "top" of the sorted images). That sorting glitch upgrade alone would be worth the price...
cheers.
Not sure how much overlap there is with the new features just added... but the NIK suite is a killer addition. But the complete collection, it is only a bit more than one of the packages in the suite.
Been using them for over a year now, and don't know how I ever lived without it. Worth every penny (don't say that a lot). The level of control you have over your images is amazing. The use of pickable "control-points" lets you get at parts of your pics you could never get at (so quick & easily at least). Aperture2 & NIK was a gamechanger for me, and I have been chomping for 3.0 to come out.
Hopefully it is a bit faster, especially with really large libraries. I think they finally added the persistent sorting that iPhoto has (meaning if you quit, or shift between albums, you don't always default to the the "top" of the sorted images). That sorting glitch upgrade alone would be worth the price...
cheers.
One glad customer
I am really happy Apple decided Aperture was worth keeping. And the update suits my need perfectly. I am no pro, just an amateur photographer who is passionate about his hobby. So, yes, "faces" and "places" were things I was looking for as well as coffe table photo books.
Adjustments are also very nice in my opinion. Aperture 2 is a great software but it was relying a bit too much on plugins in my opinion. I cannot justify the purchase of Nik's plugins, although they seem fantastic, so I am glad Aperture offers a bit more in this regard.
I guess that pro photographers around here might also find features they like and others they wish they had. But I cannot understand people complaining about "faces" and "places" being there. If you don't care, don't use them. After all these features come from iPhoto so it is not a major programming issue.
I am glad Apple rewrote the whole app since it takes better advantage of Snow Leopard on one hand and tells me the app is still alive on the other.
99 USD (swiss price) is also a good value proposition in my opinion. I upgraded immediately after launch of Aperture 3. Aperture 2 was a great value since it stood around almost too long
I am really happy Apple decided Aperture was worth keeping. And the update suits my need perfectly. I am no pro, just an amateur photographer who is passionate about his hobby. So, yes, "faces" and "places" were things I was looking for as well as coffe table photo books.
Adjustments are also very nice in my opinion. Aperture 2 is a great software but it was relying a bit too much on plugins in my opinion. I cannot justify the purchase of Nik's plugins, although they seem fantastic, so I am glad Aperture offers a bit more in this regard.
I guess that pro photographers around here might also find features they like and others they wish they had. But I cannot understand people complaining about "faces" and "places" being there. If you don't care, don't use them. After all these features come from iPhoto so it is not a major programming issue.
I am glad Apple rewrote the whole app since it takes better advantage of Snow Leopard on one hand and tells me the app is still alive on the other.
99 USD (swiss price) is also a good value proposition in my opinion. I upgraded immediately after launch of Aperture 3. Aperture 2 was a great value since it stood around almost too long
Yes, except that the purchaser did not have complete information since Apple keeps most of its upcoming products secret until release. Typically most s/w companies warn in advance of an upcoming version. This gives the buyer full knowledge about what they are buying. Apple, however, plays hide the ball.
Most buyers do not knowingly buy a version that is going to be outdated within a couple months. It's why you see steep sales declines in versions about to be EOL'd and also why companies offer a "free" update for purchases made after the announcement. It's called respecting the customer. They don't have to do it, but they do it because its the smart business move, and an inexpensive one too.
Also its a bit disingenuous to say that someone who happily bought version 1 today for $200 should still be happy if a refined and improved version 2 is released with 200 more features the days or weeks later. Maybe you'd go skipping along, but it creates ill will for most consumers. The consumer is worse off, your rationalization notwithstanding, because their $200 didn't go as far as it could have had they waited -- had they had some kind of heads up to do so.
I agree. Some people (I suspect most are not pros) seem to be upset that "consumer features" are added to a pro app... yet, some pros are saying they want the feature. Irrespective... it makes great biz sense for Apple to add these features... even if it was only to drive additional upgrades from the "enthusiast consumer" camp. Even this indirectly benefits the professional... because more people using A3 helps ensure a product that is viable for continued investment.
/Jim
Everyone has their own perspective. As someone that started with Aperture version 1 @ $499, several of you seem like whiners! And let's not get me started on the cost of staying current with Photoshop! THOU$AND$!
Aperture is a BARGAIN @ $199. And given the amount of features crammed into each major new release, the upgrades are a bargain @ $99.
Anyone that is unhappy about purchasing Aperture 2 just a few weeks or few months ago has only themselves to blame. This new release has been rumored AND discussed heavily since October.
Mark
Aperture is a BARGAIN @ $199. And given the amount of features crammed into each major new release, the upgrades are a bargain @ $99.
Anyone that is unhappy about purchasing Aperture 2 just a few weeks or few months ago has only themselves to blame. This new release has been rumored AND discussed heavily since October.
Mark
And actually the Faces in A3 is more sophisticated than what is in iLife. In A3 you can isolate faces by project. That is key for even photograpy pros. In iLife faces only works globally. So it is really curious why they would be complaining about this since Apple didn't just dump the iLife feature into A3 unimproved.
Does anyone know an easy way to get rid of my duplicate images? I took the plunge to A3 and did the iphoto import. For some reason I never noticed the duplicate files in iphoto but I have a bunch in A3. Any utility to remove them? I tried Tidy Up! but it's doesn't work with A3.
the unbearable cost of upgrades?
I agree, and I also paid $499 when it first came out. The cost is LOW, and the upgrade cost is REALLY low. There is no way that Adobe would be matching the upgrade pricing for LR if Apple hadn't set the benchmark on pricing. Not only does Adobe whack you on upgrade pricing they play games with the packages, forcing you to pay even more. Everyone knew the upgrade was coming, except maybe the LR shills who were saying it was being dead-ended and shelved (not, lol). Apple has always been secretive about their hardware and software upgrades, this is not news. If you don't like it, one is always free to buy something/somewhere else. If I had a project that I NEEDED the ap for at that moment, then I would just assume it as a cost of doing business. No matter what anyone says, Apple's upgrade prices are always very low, and very fair (with family-pack discounts, etc.).
Still sifting through the upgrade features, and it seem a HUGE step-forward for Aperture. There will be some bugs, but I won't be on the bleeding edge anyway. I had held off Snow Leopard upgrades because it didn't play nice with Aperture, and will be doing some hardware/software upgrades in a few months when my work slows down. By that time most of the bugs will be squashed (hopefully).
For me Aperture was a paradigm shift, and a whole new approach (better IMO). There was a good quote on just this in one of the reviews:
"None of us were really thinking about photo management as being a part of the same tools as photo editing and processing but as soon as the software was released it made immediate sense. Instead of revamping Photoshop, Apple decided to revamp the whole process. Digital photography up until that point had been about filters and layers, the task of managing a collection of images was naturally hard because it had been hard with film. Apples idea was to take the most difficult part of the process and make it simple, we were all taken off guard." (http://aperture.maccreate.com/2010/02/09/aperture-3-overview/)
While LR may offer some editing tools, I suspect they will not go too far, so as to not kill the golden goose of PS, and the substantial cash streams of perpetual costly upgrades. PS still offers me: layers, type, CMYK conversion, sizing (which amounts to 5-10% of my imaging work). Aperture offers with one click the ability to edit/work in Photoshop (or NIK, etc), and the workflow is seamless. When 100% of my imaging went through PS, it took longer, didn't look as good, and often was size dependent... not to mention I had no archiving solutions (I used Portfolio, which I hated, and paid $500-600 for to boot). When iPhoto came out the archiving alone blew the doors off Portfolio, and at a cost of $99. Priceless.
cheers.
I agree, and I also paid $499 when it first came out. The cost is LOW, and the upgrade cost is REALLY low. There is no way that Adobe would be matching the upgrade pricing for LR if Apple hadn't set the benchmark on pricing. Not only does Adobe whack you on upgrade pricing they play games with the packages, forcing you to pay even more. Everyone knew the upgrade was coming, except maybe the LR shills who were saying it was being dead-ended and shelved (not, lol). Apple has always been secretive about their hardware and software upgrades, this is not news. If you don't like it, one is always free to buy something/somewhere else. If I had a project that I NEEDED the ap for at that moment, then I would just assume it as a cost of doing business. No matter what anyone says, Apple's upgrade prices are always very low, and very fair (with family-pack discounts, etc.).
Still sifting through the upgrade features, and it seem a HUGE step-forward for Aperture. There will be some bugs, but I won't be on the bleeding edge anyway. I had held off Snow Leopard upgrades because it didn't play nice with Aperture, and will be doing some hardware/software upgrades in a few months when my work slows down. By that time most of the bugs will be squashed (hopefully).
For me Aperture was a paradigm shift, and a whole new approach (better IMO). There was a good quote on just this in one of the reviews:
"None of us were really thinking about photo management as being a part of the same tools as photo editing and processing but as soon as the software was released it made immediate sense. Instead of revamping Photoshop, Apple decided to revamp the whole process. Digital photography up until that point had been about filters and layers, the task of managing a collection of images was naturally hard because it had been hard with film. Apples idea was to take the most difficult part of the process and make it simple, we were all taken off guard." (http://aperture.maccreate.com/2010/02/09/aperture-3-overview/)
While LR may offer some editing tools, I suspect they will not go too far, so as to not kill the golden goose of PS, and the substantial cash streams of perpetual costly upgrades. PS still offers me: layers, type, CMYK conversion, sizing (which amounts to 5-10% of my imaging work). Aperture offers with one click the ability to edit/work in Photoshop (or NIK, etc), and the workflow is seamless. When 100% of my imaging went through PS, it took longer, didn't look as good, and often was size dependent... not to mention I had no archiving solutions (I used Portfolio, which I hated, and paid $500-600 for to boot). When iPhoto came out the archiving alone blew the doors off Portfolio, and at a cost of $99. Priceless.
cheers.
aperture 3 seems really nice. i don't have that much time to work on photos at the moment, or i might consider getting it
Video processing
I would be nice if Aperture could do the same processing to video that it does for photos; image adjustments and presets.
I would be nice if Aperture could do the same processing to video that it does for photos; image adjustments and presets.
That's fairly typical in the industry - the license cannot be resold or transferred so it naturally reasons that it's not intended to be upgraded. Looks like you will have to buy a full version.
But aperture 2 academic users ARE allowed to upgrade, why not extend it to 1.5 users who struggled when the application was incredibly premature.
actually it does video too.. and audio
It doesn't let you adjust the image, but it lets you preview and trim the clips, and also integrates with external video editors... Watched the demo clips that mix the stills & video, and was impressed. (see the clip here: http://www.apple.com/aperture/action/frakes/
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It doesn't let you adjust the image, but it lets you preview and trim the clips, and also integrates with external video editors... Watched the demo clips that mix the stills & video, and was impressed. (see the clip here: http://www.apple.com/aperture/action/frakes/
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From the "200+" feature list:
Autosplit Projects
On import, Aperture can use time-stamp data to automatically split photos into separate projects by day, week, or intervals of 2 or 8 hours.
That is essentially what Events does, but in a more flexible way.
This is a need for all of Apple's "library" based applications, and it needs to be smarter than just looking at file names. I scripted a sync routine across iTunes libraries back in the days before Time Machine that I'm still regretting...
Here's a thought: sign up for an Ethics class at your local college. Then you might legitimately qualify for academic pricing...Anyone know if the new version is going to be available at retail Apple stores today? I'd rather go buy in person because I can fake that I'm still a college student and get a discount
I agree as well. Nothing has infuriated me as much with Apple's two-tier system are features a pro-sumer has to "give up" moving from the consumer software to the professional software. The solution for Feature X has already been well thought-out, the code has been written, and the sales pitch has been made that it's the best thing for Program Segment Y since sliced bread. But, if you pay $200 instead of $50, you can't have it. Sorry.
I really hated this with iMovie versus Final Cut back when iMovie was a "little" Final Cut. I continue to hate it with iPhoto vs Aperture. Aperture gaining some of those consumer features for essentially "free" should have always been a no-brainer. I'm glad Apple is finally bringing these features in, and only hope they keep the trend up.
It would be like OS X Snow Leopard Server not coming with Safari, because a "real" server wouldn't need or want to run a web browser. You'd think the guy who decided that the couple megs of disk space saved by not putting that feature in ProAppX.app's package and ended up keeping thousands of consumers-wanting-more from the upsell from the consumer version would have been fired before the product even made it out the door.
There's always a cut-off.
My wife had to buy MS Office 2007 for a class about a month before the Office 2010 announcement. It would have been great if we could have bought it a month later and gotten Office 2010 for free when it is released, especially since 2010 offers no upgrade path at all so our entire 2007 purchase price is "wasted" (or, rather, a really hefty price for one month of utility).
You see, no matter where the "free upgrade" date is placed, you'll have folks on the one side of that line happy they waited a few more days to purchase and folks on the other side of that line pissed that they missed the cutoff.
Yes, Apple could move that date "back" a few months, but then you just make another bunch of folks pissed instead, and have greatly increased both complexity (you now have to keep track of when the software was purchased, which Apple currently does not track in any way) and potential for fraud.
That's just how software works. You buy something today because you see utility in what is offered today. If the wrapper doesn't specifically say "free upgrades for life", you need to accept that a new version might be coming out the next day. Count yourself lucky that some software allows you to "upgrade" from one version to the next instead of paying full price every time.
Keep waiting. And what's wrong with Pixelmator as a consumer photo editor? Why does a consumer photo editor have to come from Apple?
Just installed the trial version and love it already. The things that stand out as worthwhile improvements for me are the sliders etc. in the adjustments dialogs are larger (I find the ones in A2 a bit fiddly), the ability to drag Projects, Folders, Albums into any order in the Library pane which also means that you can put your own Smart Albums with the built-in ones so keeping them all together, plus I can finally stop the Import dialog opening when I connect my iPhone when Aperture is open
Very impressed, and worth the £79 upgrade price.
Very impressed, and worth the £79 upgrade price.
Faces and Places are the two features that will be latched onto by people who switched to LR and are unsure of their decision. They will use consumer features as a strawman argument to justify their decision by deriding the product. Notice how all the people on here who switched to LR say nothing of the non-destructive editing and other useful features of A3?
The people who use LR and are confident in their decision are off using it right now, and do not feel the childish need to post silly strawman arguments in an article that has nothing to do with LR.
I like the similar imovie 6 HD feature. Not sure how powerful it is but to edit video and photos in one package save allot of time switching between apps. Its no FCP but for those who do small projects will like version 3. Can't wait to try it when my order arrives.