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Apple Releases Boot Camp Beta

sixstorm said:
Well, I finally got my Intel iMac and found out that Boot Camp only works with XP with SP2. WTF Apple? Not only is that retarded but SP2 sucks. It's a system hog!!! All that anti-virus, firewall and security center stuff is just a joke. Anyways, I have 2 versions of XP and I guess I can't install it cuz they don't have SP2 . . . what a let down. Anyone know if they will increase support later?
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There was a post early I read in this forum (page 11 or so) that had a way to make a legitimate copy of your Windows XP disc and add SP2 to it so it'll work with BootCamp.

Here's the website to make your Windows XP disc into an SP2 disc:
http://www.helpwithwindows.com/WindowsXP/winxp-sp2-bootcd.html

--CP
 
avensis087 said:
i purchased a set of discs from my school's computing/software department. one disc being M$ Windows XP Professional and the other disc being Windows XP Professional x64 edition. i've already gone through boot camp and loaded xp professional on my imac and it worked flawlessly. i'm curious if anybody knows any advantages/disadvantages/possibilities of being able to upgrade to the x64 edition? even possible? thanks.

mr
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Quick primer on 64-bit Windows.

There are two versions -- one for Itanium (Intel's earliest 64-bit processors) and one for AMD 64 and newer Intel 64-bit chips. The future is the latter and extensions shared by both Intel and AMD.

The 64-bit chips will happily run 32-bit operating systems. However, you can go to a 64-bit XP if you wish. There are a few benefits and many drawbacks.

The benefits are that you can run 64-bit applications, naturally (of which there are very few). You can also run 32-bit applications through WoW64 (Windows-On-Windows, the same way NT/XP ran 16-bit applications in a 32-bit OS). The 64-bit processors are capable of executing 32-bit code natively. So 32-bit apps run pretty well on the 64-bit OS. The big drawback is that you need 64-bit drivers for the OS, so if you're on the hardware bleeding edge or have interesting hardware, you may be stuck waiting for drivers.
 
contoursvt said:
PS. I'm a PC user and I can tell you that SP2 is the single biggest improvement to XP to ever come about. If your system sucks that bad that you feel a slowdown, then you have other problems to worry about like a hardware upgrade.
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Even Microsoft admits SP2 is not optimized due to the latticework of patches and hotfixes; SP2 performs more poorly than the original release of XP on the same hardware.
 
janstett said:
Even Microsoft admits SP2 is not optimized due to the latticework of patches and hotfixes; SP2 performs more poorly than the original release of XP on the same hardware.
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But from expirience, it's a lot more stable than earlier releases.
 
An ugly thought just came to me...

I'm wondering if we will see Bill Gates at the WWDC in August talking with Steve about dual-booting Windows and OS X..



just a thought mind you ;)
 
Peace said:
An ugly thought just came to me...

I'm wondering if we will see Bill Gates at the WWDC in August talking with Steve about dual-booting Windows and OS X..



just a thought mind you ;)
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We have seen Mr. Gates at a Jobs keynote before, so never say never... ;)
 
kwajo.com said:
I mean I can see a few lazy developers saying "why bother making a Mac version, they can run windows now anyway."
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Those "lazy developers" will be out of work if they do not keep up with the Mac OS. As soon as enough windoze folks try out OS X (due to boot camp) all software developers will be very interested in the Mac platform (platform of the future). Jobs owns the personal computer market if he wants it. It is just a matter of how much of it he wants to take.
 
wasn't there

~Shard~ said:
We have seen Mr. Gates at a Jobs keynote before, so never say never... ;)
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I don't think he was actually there, it was a video conference, no?
 
janstett said:
Stable and fast, pick one.
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I'll take both thank you since I dont find SP2 any slower (not even a bit) over SP1 when the firewall feature is disabled. If you enable it, sure there will be a slight performance hit but now you're asking it to do something sp1 was not doing.
 
How come it boots into Windows by default

Unless I keep a keen eye on the machine when I reboot and intefere, it will boot up windows. I like the possiblility, but that it does it automatically drives me nuts.

Thoughts?

Cheers,
Lars
 
Onkelskrue said:
Unless I keep a keen eye on the machine when I reboot and intefere, it will boot up windows. I like the possiblility, but that it does it automatically drives me nuts.

Thoughts?

Cheers,
Lars
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You have to use the Startup Disk preference pane to permenantly set a startup disk. Holding down option and selecting a drive only boots that drive for that time.
 
BenRoethig said:
But from expirience, it's a lot more stable than earlier releases.
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Hardly, I've never updated to SP2, and I've never heard any one really happy with it. It's slower and do you really need Windows to monitor your virus program? Not really.. My comp runs with purely free security tools, and it run as good as any windows machine, which of course isn't all that great but hey its doing the best it can.

But it does seem like you have to get over it in this case. Why anyone would want to disfigure a Macbook with that ugly monster of a OS is beyond me, but hey have your fun.
 
Wow...

sixstorm said:
Well, I finally got my Intel iMac and found out that Boot Camp only works with XP with SP2. WTF Apple? Not only is that retarded but SP2 sucks. It's a system hog!!! All that anti-virus, firewall and security center stuff is just a joke. Anyways, I have 2 versions of XP and I guess I can't install it cuz they don't have SP2 . . . what a let down. Anyone know if they will increase support later?
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Are you really that clueless??
I don't use Windows and I only read a few articles about Boot Camp but even I knew it required XP and SP2.
Don't blame Apple for not supporting some lame old Microsoft OS you own.
This is new beta software for 2006.
GOI.
(Get Over It)
and Deal With It! (TM)
 
Boot Camp is fantastic!!

1) Partitions any size you want.
2) Simple to use.
3) I love the cute little XP folder as a Tiger startup disk option!

The one saving grace of a recent intel mac mini upgrade!!

:D
 
Is it possible to run WinXP and MACOS X at the same time using Boot Camp?

Or do I have to shut down MacOSX first and reboot with WinXP partition to use Windows?
 
I have done this and works completely fine. I installed Microsoft Flight Simulator(RAM HOG!) and it works quite well. Works better on this than previous exxxpeee computers. :)
 
Coyote2006 said:
Is it possible to run WinXP and MACOS X at the same time using Boot Camp?

Or do I have to shut down MacOSX first and reboot with WinXP partition to use Windows?
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sorry, but i have no say no because its true
 
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