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Apple Releases Boot Camp Beta

I wasn't expecting this: PC RETURNING SWITCHERS!!!

I have started seeing customers who are within their "return policy" timeframe bringing back their recently purchased windoze desktop pc's and exchanging them for Mac's.

I can only imagine that this little "secret" is gonna get out and we'll be seeing a lot more of this over the next couple of weeks.

This could be bad for Apple inventory in the short term,but obviously very good for Apple and our Macintosh platform's installed base overall.
 
MacQuest said:
I have started seeing customers who are within their "return policy" timeframe bringing back their recently purchased windoze desktop pc's and exchanging them for Mac's.
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Isn't that interesting? :)

I still say, despite this enormous thread and all the expert punditry, we still don't know how this is all gonna shake out. The people who think this is gonna be just wonderful for Apple have just as much chance of being wrong as the ones who think this is finally The End. (And chances are, it'll be something in-between.)

I do have to say I think it is ironic in the extreme that the majority of us, who've spent years deriding Windows and all its defects, are so enthused about being able to put it on our Macs. What's up with that?
 
Thomas Veil said:
I do have to say I think it is ironic in the extreme that the majority of us, who've spent years deriding Windows and all its defects, are so enthused about being able to put it on our Macs. What's up with that?
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Simple - there are a bunch of hypocrites on MacRumors. :eek: :p ;)
 
Thomas Veil said:
I do have to say I think it is ironic in the extreme that the majority of us, who've spent years deriding Windows and all its defects, are so enthused about being able to put it on our Macs. What's up with that?
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I believe that many people's derision over the years has been little more than lightly masked envy. People felt a an urge to find fault with Windows to help justify choosing a platform where much of the good, useful software was unavailable. Now that those people can have it both ways, there is no more need to keep up the pretense.
 
Thomas Veil said:
I do have to say I think it is ironic in the extreme that the majority of us, who've spent years deriding Windows and all its defects, are so enthused about being able to put it on our Macs. What's up with that?
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I think it's more a thing of being able to run some apps that are available on Windows (only), more than being able to run Windows itself.

You can bet that if a solution ever shows where you can run the Windows app without the OS, that's where you'll find everyone going with it.
 
Thomas Veil said:
I do have to say I think it is ironic in the extreme that the majority of us, who've spent years deriding Windows and all its defects, are so enthused about being able to put it on our Macs. What's up with that?
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Are they the same people though? Because I see a lot of people who are still deriding Windows. I just think there were a lot of Pro-Mac people who wern't Anti-Windows who are excited about added possibilities.
 
Still having problems with Boot Camp-assistent. When I start the application, it give the following error

The startup disk cannot be divided into partitions or restored as one partition.

So I checked the disks and repaired them using the Tiger DVD and holding down C while booting. It verified and repaired, but I still get the same error.

Does it have to do with the fact I partitioned my 250 Gb HD into three different partitions..? I got a hunch it does, but I can't seem to get a definite answer..

Did anyone get Boot Camp-assistent running with a partitioned HD..?
 
@JackieTreeHorn:
Boot Camp Assistant only works with a Mac that has only one hard disk partition. It creates a second partition on your existing startup disk for the Windows Xp operating system.
It does it without erasing your existing partition or existing Mac Os X installation when it creates a new partition for Windows XP;)
(Copied and pasted from Apple's instructions)
 
sofila said:
@JackieTreeHorn:
Boot Camp Assistant only works with a Mac that has only one hard disk partition. It creates a second partition on your existing startup disk for the Windows Xp operating system.
It does it without erasing your existing partition or existing Mac Os X installation when it creates a new partition for Windows XP;)
(Copied and pasted from Apple's instructions)
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K...thanks! I got the info on the startup disk, but I must have missed the single HD partition info. Gonna give that Parallels a go then...
 
Thomas Veil said:
I do have to say I think it is ironic in the extreme that the majority of us, who've spent years deriding Windows and all its defects, are so enthused about being able to put it on our Macs. What's up with that?
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I agree with this and don't think that having widows on a mac is good for apple.
 
Billy Boo Bob said:
I think it's more a thing of being able to run some apps that are available on Windows (only), more than being able to run Windows itself.

You can bet that if a solution ever shows where you can run the Windows app without the OS, that's where you'll find everyone going with it.
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My solution to this is that I don't run those apps, if it's not made for a mac than it's not worth my time.
 
So if I want to record a streaming video I should forget about it since I haven't found a Mac equivalent to WMRecorder/RMRecorder? (If there is one, I'd like to know.) Or watch Chinese TV via pplive, or purchase WMA files on 7digital.com that aren't available on US iTunes? I'm not a gamer but these are just some of the things I've had to use my PC for. And that's just for personal use, not the work or school obligations many have alluded to already.

The love-fest is actually over being able to use our Macs more, not Windows itself.
 
Jeff Wampler said:
I agree with this and don't think that having widows on a mac is good for apple.
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Apple came out with the ipod and itunes music store and despite more feature s and bells and wistles other players have not been able to beat them. Sony is having a really bad time lately.
so what is apple up to.

Well pulling from my own experience this past week with boot camp here are my observations.

1) I think apple has a firm grip on reality and that is most or at least many mac owners also have a windows pc, its unavoidable, there are just tasks you need to do for school or work that just can't be done on the mac because there is no direct port of the required application. Lets face it its a windows world right now.
More reality....

If your into software development like me than your replacing your equipment or adding to it about every 14 to 18 months or ealiier, it used to be about 3 years but now its getting shorter.

More reality...
At the same time other costs are also esculating, gas for the auto, colledge expenses , food just to name a few.

So when you need to make that buying decision again, do you buy the mac that you perfer because it is superier or do you buy the windows pc that you "NEED".

This is very true with regards to colledge, we were just discussing this a week ago, we were deciding which would be better for our student an ibook or a windows pc. boot camp made it easier for us to decide on the new ibooks that should be coming anytime soon.

The imac is the perfect computer for a dorm don't you think?
when apple says they are positioning boot camp at windows switchers they may be targeting the education market. Apple used to have a big piece of that market and this may help them to regain some of that.

Further, remember apple is an os and Hardware company.

PS: I've used a lot of dual boot setups in the past, dos/windows , windows 2000 / win98 osx/0s9 windows/linux
but this dual boot has to be the fastest , cleanest I've ever seen. Its not as convienent as a vm , but its not a big pain either.

In the last few hours I switched between the 2 environments 3 times. Thats amazing in my book.
 
avensis087 said:
btw...windows seems to look better on my iMac...maybe its just me. ;)

mr
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I don't think you are alone...I mean it is on a Mac....shell look better...helps a % or 2 ;)
 
avensis087 said:
btw...windows seems to look better on my iMac...maybe its just me. ;)
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My mate came round and said XP made my Mac look cheap! Although he changed his mind when I showed him Half Life 2!
 
Many different illiterate people said:
:eek:

So wait, this solution works with PPC macs too?
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Sorry, but this question comes up way too often when the answer is blatantly blatantly obvious if you read the very 1st post of this thread, any of the replies, or the Apple/Boot Camp webpage itself.

If you just posted and asked, read read read.
 
max_altitude said:
It's like there's some kind of plague infecting everyone with a new found love for Windows. Quite frightening really.
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I don't know about everyone else, but I will never use Boot Camp, but am still excited about it.

I won't use Bootcamp because:
1. I won't pirate software and don't already own Windows.
2. I won't give Microsoft money for any product other than Office, and if Apple puts a wysiwyg font menu and grammar checker in Pages, then I'm switching to iWork.
3. Why would I (a Mac user who stopped playing games in high school*) want to run Windows?

I am excited about Bootcamp because:
1. I think switchers who are afraid of not being able to…? will have nothing to fear.
2. Pretentious windows users (who aren't quite pretentious enough to use a Mac) will get Apple hardware to run Windows simply because Apple hardware is pretty and they can feel elite.
3. Apple can not sell less hardware because of this, only more. Which gives them more R&D dollars for my beautiful OS X.
4. People who switch and think they'll revert back to Windows, will stop switching to Windows about 3 weeks in as they get used to OS X and realize its superiority.

David:cool:
 
harveypooka said:
My mate came round and said XP made my Mac look cheap! Although he changed his mind when I showed him Half Life 2!
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:D

Funny, I thought the same, until I went out yesterday and bought Half Life 2, Far Cry and C&C Generals. I've hardly seen daylight since. Yowza.. so much for Macs not being gaming machines! <insert winkey smiley here>

I still feel a little dirty buying software off the PC shelves though... maybe if I just hid them among a few adult magazines, it wouldn't look so bad..
 
I put it on, installed it, installed xp and I'm happy now. I still do most of my work in osx, but its nice not having to boot up my laptop if I need to do something in windows.
 
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