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Has anyone got this working? Like others, I'm finding it needs an update to the iCloud for Windows app which doesn't seem to have been released yet (last update was 2 years ago to the day).
Update came last week.
 
I don’t get it.

On one hand we are advised to avoid browser extensions because of security issues.

on the other hand Apple starts supporting password access through a mob extension on a competitor’s browser (key being that Apple doesn’t control a competitor’s s/w engineering or coding decisions.)
 
App in MS store is from 2 years ago still, so can't get this to work
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Chrome? No thanks. Will take a Firefox version though, could stop paying 1password.
I've been with 1P since the very beginning. Over the last two years, I have seen a steady but definite decline in the app. It used to be very reliable and easy to use, and all the functions worked. I have been looking for an alternative for quite some time. Safari passwords don't always work.
 
Because Apple has made pretty clear that services is as much a priority as hardware. They don't want to funnel an exclusive number of people to doing everything on Apple, they want everyone to be using Apple products in some capacity.
Agree. Also since other web browsers can be default on iOS Apple needed either create Safari for Windows or open Toolchain to stay competitive.
 
Because Apple has made pretty clear that services is as much a priority as hardware. They don't want to funnel an exclusive number of people to doing everything on Apple, they want everyone to be using Apple products in some capacity.
Sure. I suppose they might, but I don't think that would be a smart move.

It's one thing to write a Keychain client for Windows; it's another to port the entirety of Photos.
 
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Sure. I suppose they might, but I don't think that would be a smart move.

It's one thing to write a Keychain client for Windows; it's another to port the entirety of Photos.

Maybe, but I don't think Photos is a USP or killer app for MacOS. It's not like people are buying a Mac because it has photos on it. It may even be more likely that people avoid Macs/the Apple ecosystem because they don't want something as personal and important as their photos to be locked in. Or maybe they own a Mac but are using Google Photos instead because they want to access them on a PC, a problem Apple could solve by developing the browser version of Photos.

I don't see that making Photos an exclusive part of the walled garden is really giving people a reason to buy a Mac over a PC. You could easily argue it's the opposite.
 
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Once I switched from Safari to Firefox I started to use Bitwarden. I've since found it much more useful than keychain (as Apple haven't even bothered to write a keychain app for iOS) so I wouldn't move back even if they opened up Firefox support.

I like the fact I can fill in any field, as Bitwarden is pretty customisable. My router password, as just one example, would never be seen as a password field by Keychain/Safari but Bitwarden has no issues with it.

For me and my usage, I'm finding all of Apple's stock software getting worse and worse. I'm moving away from them one by one. This will also allow me to switch hardware (phone and laptop) in the future if necessary although I have no current plans to do that. I still like the hardware.
Except, there is keychain support for iOS in Settings - Passwords. It may not be 100% compared to Keychain on the Mac, but it's pretty close.
 
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Maybe, but I don't think Photos is a USP or killer app for MacOS. It's not like people are buying a Mac because it has photos on it.

Well, historically, iLife was such a big deal that they would print it straight on a Mac's box.

That's no longer true to the same extent, but really, what out-of-the-box experience on a desktop/laptop competes? A Chromebook with Google Photos, perhaps, but that's not a particularly great machine to view (too small) or edit (doesn't look great) photos on. Microsoft doesn't really have a photos-focused service (you can store photos in OneDrive, but they aren't really pushing that much).

It may even be more likely that people avoid Macs/the Apple ecosystem because they don't want something as personal and important as their photos to be locked in.

As problematic as platform lock-in can be, I really don't think that factors into the decision for almost anyone. It's mostly a geek concern.

Or maybe they own a Mac but are using Google Photos instead because they want to access them on a PC, a problem Apple could solve by developing the browser version of Photos.

Sure.

I don't see that making Photos an exclusive part of the walled garden is really giving people a reason to buy a Mac over a PC. You could easily argue it's the opposite.

Not Photos in particular, no. But at some point, if all their stuff also runs on Windows, why get a Mac at all?
 
This is a terrible take on things.

Thanks?

Apple makes money from services too, windows users also use services that apple makes.

Yes.

There’s Apple Music for android too, should apple delete that app to make people buy an iOS device?

No, but it's not quite the same. The Music app at this point primarily exists as a client to the Apple Music subscription service; features that integrate into the iTunes Store or your locally-stored music really haven't been pushed much in years.

Photos, in contrast, works basically equally well whether you enable iCloud Photo Library or not. It's an add-on that you don't have to use at all.

And viewing/editing photos on a big screen (such as an iMac) is a much more important use case than playing music on it.
 
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But at some point, if all their stuff also runs on Windows, why get a Mac at all?

Because Windows is awful?

Honestly, we're way beyond the point now where exclusivity of individual software apps is the primary or even secondary reason people are buying Macs.
 
Maybe, but I don't think Photos is a USP or killer app for MacOS. It's not like people are buying a Mac because it has photos on it. It may even be more likely that people avoid Macs/the Apple ecosystem because they don't want something as personal and important as their photos to be locked in. Or maybe they own a Mac but are using Google Photos instead because they want to access them on a PC, a problem Apple could solve by developing the browser version of Photos.

I don't see that making Photos an exclusive part of the walled garden is really giving people a reason to buy a Mac over a PC. You could easily argue it's the opposite.
It must be a difficult balance to maintain. The Apple ecosystem is praised for its integration, but the iPhone is far more widespread than any other Apple device class, so most iPhone users likely use a non-Mac, if any computer at all. The iPhone cooperates soso with Windows and barely at all with Linux, so most users deal with workarounds and a substandard integration compared to Android. Improving the integration could lead to growth in market share vs Android, while decreasing the appeal of Macs.
 
Because Windows is awful?

I can install WSL to get many of the Unix advantages of macOS.

I can… use many of the same apps as on the Mac, because more and more is just an Electron wrapper anyway.

Now some people in this thread are advocating, "hey, why not port Photos as well?".

I don't get that.

Honestly, we're way beyond the point now where exclusivity of individual software apps is the primary or even secondary reason people are buying Macs.

OK, and what, precisely, is the reason? If fewer and fewer apps are Mac-exclusive, why get a Mac?

Yes, there's the hardware (even that had a few… not-so-great years *cough* butterfly keyboard *cough*), but I don't think hardware alone is a great differentiator compared to, say, a Dell XPS.
 
why support windows at all then? why have icloud web?

To have a good-enough experience. But for the best experience, get a Mac.

At least, that's traditionally been Apple's approach. If they're abandoning that, I think they're making a grave mistake.
 
Honestly, we're way beyond the point now where exclusivity of individual software apps is the primary or even secondary reason people are buying Macs.

In general that is probably true, however I have seen the following two cases advocated for staying on Windows and/or not going to an Apple Silicon Mac:
  • Top-tier games
  • Applications (scientific, manufacturing, CAD, etcetera) that is needed to do one's job
Over time the two examples mentioned above may go away, especially if Apple keeps on putting out improved SoCs for the remainder of the Mac line of computers.
 
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