Apple Releases Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro

[AppliedVisual]

Well, given that he's already got a gig - I will be really surprised if he sees any significant benefit to CS2 by adding more.

I suppose that depends on what he's doing. My C2D MBP has 2GB in it and I can run short with a lot of what I do in Photoshop pretty easily. Then again, I occasionally find myself needing Maya or Lightwave open along with Photoshop and well, 2GB just doesn't cut it...

gonnabuyamac, next couple times CS2 is sluggish for you, try launching Activity Monitor to see how much free memory you've got and how much memory your various apps are using. Note that "inactive memory" will not be reported as free, but should be available to other apps as needed.

His activity monitor reports seem a little off... Then again, I'm not sure what I'm getting with mine, haven't really studied it and I don't have the notebook handy right now.

 

[YS2003]

Hey all, I don't know where else to ask this...

I am happily typing this on my 15" C2D MBP that I've had for a few weeks. I'm a first-time Mac owner - and a very happy one!

I'm realizing though, that running the Adobe CS2 suite is sometimes a little slow with the 1 gig of RAM I have. Where is a good place to get RAM? I hear that Apple is way too pricey with their's.

Thanks!

You need 2 GB Ram as a minimum for MBP. 1 GB is too week to run Rosetta and CS2. But, even with 1 GB Ram, there should not be too much for a performance hit. Here is the review on MBP by Mac World.

 

[Nar1117]

Well 1 gb is enough for the average consumer, who isnt using CS2. But yes, i agree, at least 2 gb is essential for CS2... 3 is probably good enough. Tolo bad you cant do 4 gb.

 

[Westside guy]

Oh good grief. I've got 2GB in my MacBook Pro, and I use Dreamweaver, Photoshop, and Aperture regularly as part of my job. The memory being used isn't anywhere near 2G at any time (and I actually check this sort of stuff), and the applications' response is great.

Some of you sound like those Dell ads where they say "How much memory do I need?" "Well if you're only doing basic web browsing and email, 1GB is enough." It's a bit ridiculous. 1GB should be plenty for the majority of users.

Next time you think you're using all of your RAM, look at how much of that is listed as "inactive".

Edit: I just remembered something - some of my old-time Mac user friends had a habit of never closing down any program, ever. Once they launched it, it's left running for days and days. Is that why you think you need so much memory?

 

[AppliedVisual]

Oh good grief. I've got 2GB in my MacBook Pro, and I use Dreamweaver, Photoshop, and Aperture regularly as part of my job. The memory being used isn't anywhere near 2G at any time (and I actually check this sort of stuff), and the applications' response is great.

I'll agree that 1GB is probably fine for many users. 2GB is more than enough for most people... But some of us do need more. I'm one of those who could really use 4GB in my MBP, too bad it isn't possible (or affordable). I'd go to 3GB if the 2GB modules weren't so expensive. And this is without just leaving applications open too... I routinely work with 3D models and scene data that can choke a 2GB system pretty easily. My desktop systems mostly have 4GB in them and it's plenty of overhead to do what I need to. OTOH, one of my G5 quad systems has 8GB and that's a real treat. I can actually have Final Cut Pro, Shake, Maya and Photoshop all open simultaneously and flip back and forth between them as needed.

 

[Reverend Wally]

My opinion of the MBP C2D

Now that I have used this new machine (MPB C2D 17" Matte display 160GB 2GB RAM) for about a week and a half, I have to say I absolutely love it.

I have no complaints about the Wireless Mighty Mouse, or the Mag-Safe plug.

I will say that I do use a coolpad that is made by Bytecc. It sells on Newegg for about 20 bucks and it keeps this thing absolutely cool. Go to the link below if you are interested. I also have some minor mods that can be done to make this cooler pad much more efficient and they are very very inexpensive to do.

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The Miglia TV products (TVMini HD and TV Micro) I am using are the top of the line.

If anyone here would like to order anything from them, go to

http://miglia.com

and make absolutely sure you pick the correct currency in your profile. Use promo code AUG01 and you will recieve a 20% discount on your purchase....no matter what it is. I have been authorized to post this by the head of US sales.

That's it for now.

 

[appie57]

Now that I have used this new machine (MPB C2D 17" Matte display 160GB 2GB RAM) for about a week and a half, I have to say I absolutely love it.

I have no complaints about the Wireless Mighty Mouse, or the Mag-Safe plug.

I will say that I do use a coolpad that is made by Bytecc. It sells on Newegg for about 20 bucks and it keeps this thing absolutely cool. Go to the link below if you are interested. I also have some minor mods that can be done to make this cooler pad much more efficient and they are very very inexpensive to do.

Same for me. I love the machine!!! I have glossy and am very happy with it, particularly for pics. Mighty Mouse also good. An amazing feature is streaming music via Airport to your stereo. It actually works!

 

[patrick0brien]

Important Safety Tip

-Gents

Well, I guess we're all happy and 'in love' with our new C2D friends. "Janus", my 15" C2D and I have been learning a great deal about each other - and as a result - I have a 'safety tip' to share.

It may not apply you your machines, but I'm 90% sure it will...

I noticed some strange behavior with Janus lately, like I'd pull it out of my bag, and though closed, it's on. And due to the on state, and suffocating nature of the bag - it's really hot and the fans are going to town.

It's having issues staying asleep - and I think I figured it out.

In System Preferences:Energy Saver:Options turn off "Wake for Ethernet Network Admin Access" and "Restart automatically after a power failure".

I think the winter has allows spurious static to play with the ethernet port and wake the machine - sometimes doing the same thing with the nearly flush MagSafe port restarting it.

Since I turned them off, no issues.

 

[Reverend Wally]

-Gents

Well, I guess we're all happy and 'in love' with our new C2D friends. "Janus", my 15" C2D and I have been learning a great deal about each other - and as a result - I have a 'safety tip' to share.

It may not apply you your machines, but I'm 90% sure it will...

I noticed some strange behavior with Janus lately, like I'd pull it out of my bag, and though closed, it's on. And due to the on state, and suffocating nature of the bag - it's really hot and the fans are going to town.

It's having issues staying asleep - and I think I figured it out.

In System Preferences:Energy Saver:Options turn off "Wake for Ethernet Network Admin Access" and "Restart automatically after a power failure".

I think the winter has allows spurious static to play with the ethernet port and wake the machine - sometimes doing the same thing with the nearly flush MagSafe port restarting it.

Since I turned them off, no issues.

I realize that sometimes it may seem beneficial to carry a notebook in "Sleep" state in a bag, BUT...
It is never a good idea or a good practice to do this.

The new MBP C2Ds restart pretty quickly and also start up very fast....so it is best that when you transport the machine, to turn it all the way off.

 

[patrick0brien]

I realize that sometimes it may seem beneficial to carry a notebook in "Sleep" state in a bag, BUT...
It is never a good idea or a good practice to do this.

The new MBP C2Ds restart pretty quickly and also start up very fast....so it is best that when you transport the machine, to turn it all the way off.

-Reverend Wally

Yeah but I'm lazy.

 

[brutusfly]

Not my style

I realize that sometimes it may seem beneficial to carry a notebook in "Sleep" state in a bag, BUT...
It is never a good idea or a good practice to do this.

The new MBP C2Ds restart pretty quickly and also start up very fast....so it is best that when you transport the machine, to turn it all the way off.

That would be a shame. I've been using my Ti Book for 4 years and have went months at a time without a restart. I prefer to leave my most used apps open, and all their windows arranged to my liking. It's great to close and run, then be right where you left off in two seconds. I thought restarts were for Dell users?

P.S. My 17" Glossy C2D ships Monday! Yes!

 

[Westside guy]

I realize that sometimes it may seem beneficial to carry a notebook in "Sleep" state in a bag, BUT...
It is never a good idea or a good practice to do this.

The new MBP C2Ds restart pretty quickly and also start up very fast....so it is best that when you transport the machine, to turn it all the way off.

I disagree. Your hard disk is powered down with its read heads parked, so there's no difference in state between sleep and "power off". The default sleep behavior with the new Macs is to write the memory state to disk (something I've disabled BTW), so even if you sleep until the battery drains completely you're not losing anything. HFS+ is a journaled filed system, which means the risk of data loss is negligible.

I've been using laptops for about 8 years now (first Windows, then Linux, and now Mac), and have been using sleep and/or hibernate for as long as the OSes have supported it - which is pretty much that whole time period. I don't think there's a good reason to power down just to transport your laptop.

 

[Reverend Wally]

That would be a shame. I've been using my Ti Book for 4 years and have went months at a time without a restart. I prefer to leave my most used apps open, and all their windows arranged to my liking. It's great to close and run, then be right where you left off in two seconds. I thought restarts were for Dell users?

P.S. My 17" Glossy C2D ships Monday! Yes!

I am a very lucky guy ... never have had a Dell, although I used to sing my own rock'n'roll version of the "Farmer in the Dell"...

I wonder how he got in there...!

I disagree. Your hard disk is powered down with its read heads parked, so there's no difference in state between sleep and "power off". The default sleep behavior with the new Macs is to write the memory state to disk (something I've disabled BTW), so even if you sleep until the battery drains completely you're not losing anything. HFS+ is a journaled filed system, which means the risk of data loss is negligible.

I've been using laptops for about 8 years now (first Windows, then Linux, and now Mac), and have been using sleep and/or hibernate for as long as the OSes have supported it - which is pretty much that whole time period. I don't think there's a good reason to power down just to transport your laptop.

Some say Tomottoes .... some say tomaytoes .... LOL

I guess it all depends on personal preferences.

I sometimes will transport in sleep mode IF I am only going to travel a very short distance.

BUT ... One thing for sure

I love my new Macbook Pro
In fact I just went and bought it brand new travel acommodations today .... a brand new Targus Clamshell Platinum Notebook case. And a nice snug Incase sleeve to keep it safe.