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Apple Releases Dual Core PowerMac G5s

itswoody said:
Goddammit I'm so pissed right now...saved up for months to buy a Dual 2.7 Ghz Power Mac back in April (although it took a whole month to arrive but that's another story) thinking it would last...and now this a few months later. Apple have screwed me and many others again....70% performance advantage over yesterdays "top of the line" mac!!! But still we buy their products! If you're listening Jobs, offer to buy mine back and give me a mega discount on a quad, that will make me happy. :mad: :eek: :mad: :eek: :p
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It's not worth getting mad at, dude. I bought a brand new G3 400 mhz Power Mac in 1999 (March) and the 450 came out in May and the G4s came out in November 1999.

You can't keep up with technology, and a faster system won't make you a better computer person.

I am buying a Quad because my G5 1.6 ghz single processor is too SLOW for me (I do a lot of HDV editing and am going to be cutting one-two feature films soon), and I want to have a G5 for 3-4 years before they go Intel.

It feels a little anti-climatic, though, because we've been waiting so long. And I notice they can't get rid of 2.0 ghz G5s, no matter what. ;-)

heath
 
Stella said:
If you really expected to see a G5 powerBook, I suggest you come back down from Lala land, into the real world.

Freescale dual core G4 processors aren't ready yet...
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In other words, I'd take ANY processor upgrade.
I'd even take a G5 at this point.

What happened? Did Apple give any indication why we are stuck at 1.67?
 
aswitcher said:
So, last update before intel? Or one more next year where the whole line goes dual dual?
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I personally expect a speed bump to this Power Mac revision in about 6 - 9 months.
 
spencecb said:
And upon carefully reading my original posting, you would conclude that I never said that you were the one complaining about Apple not updating their products quickly enough...that was a general statement to all those people out there that say this. You are just the one that complains when they update something.
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"I will never understand the people that complain that Apple doesn't update quickly enough, and then the same people get pissed when they buy something and Apple makes it better."

Umm durrrrrrr, you were quite clearly refering to my post and me. ;) Still no biggee...it was a joke anyway! :p
 
QCassidy352 said:
can i just ask the guy whose church had a dual 2.7 stolen... what does a church do with a top of the line dual G5?? :eek: ;)
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It requires a lot of horsepower to IM with God. A lot.
 
aswitcher said:
So, last update before intel? Or one more next year where the whole line goes dual dual?
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Whole line goes dual dual at or before MWSF ... especially after they see the mid-range sigle duals don't sell. JMO
 
Basic question: I know dual cores is supposed to be better, in theory, than separate chips, because the chips can share data faster.

Are there any DOWNSIDES to having both G5 cores on one chip, vs. the same GHz on two separate chips?

I'm curious about just the processor advantages--not the other specs of old vs. new Macs.
 
nagromme said:
Someone else said NONE are liquid-cooled anymore. What's the truth?

I see no cooling info on the official pages anymore.
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It looks like the're all aircooled. The previous 2.5 and 2.7 were overclocked, the dualcore 2.5 is not.
 
aperture?

All exciting stuff, but just one thing... I'm not sure about the name of the photo app... I mean... aperture? Seriously? I know it's a little adolescent, but couldn't they have thought of a less giggle-worthy name? I can see the joke posts and headlines now.. "I have a big problem with my aperture", "please help me instal plugin in my aperture" , "Steve Job's aperture feels good to computer geeks" etc etc.
 
Damn, I already placed my order and they didn't have the 7800 as an option so I didn't know about it. But damn it's much faster then the 6600. Anyone know when it will be back and and what price? I might have to call Apple and find out if it's worth me chaining my order.
 
kbonnel said:
question, can we use any 3rd party pci express card? any ideas if apple has special video cards for these? (I am sure they do, but wondering)

Kimo
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I was trying to figure that out myself. Any card would, of course, have to have drivers developed by ATI and nVidia for the Mac. It would also have to support Open GL.
 
nagromme said:
Basic question: I know dual cores is supposed to be better, in theory, than separate chips, because the chips can share data faster.

Are there any DOWNSIDES to having both G5 cores on one chip, vs. the same GHz on two separate chips?

I'm curious about just the processor advantages--not the other specs of old vs. new Macs.
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The main issue are thermal and FSB.

- You have more gates on the die so more heat generation however the die is likely larger and hence easier to interface to a cooling system (and yeah it looks like they are using heat-pipes and huge air cooled heat sink not liquid cooling).

- You have two cores sharing a single FSB now but the extra L2 cache size and on die sharing between cores can make up for that.

...that is about all I can think of.
 
Do apps need to be compiled for quad cpus or will apps use them if they are dual cpu capable? For instance will my encoding in EyeTV be 70% faster or will it just not see the other 2 cpus?
 
man teh most $$$ you can spend on a quad PM is 24,078.00!!

Mac it 11,900 for 16gb of Apple RAM!!

You can get 1TB in your PM Harddrive


I WANT IT
 
QCassidy352 said:
can i just ask the guy whose church had a dual 2.7 stolen... what does a church do with a top of the line dual G5?? :eek: ;)
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Many churches now adays are big into multimedia. We have two large screens with projectors on each side of the stage for worship song lyrics, ppt slide for sermon, video, etc, etc.
 
i skim through the powermac upgrades and I can say im not that happy. The apple upgrades as of late have cut down on the variety of machines u can purchase. (3 imacs->2 iMacs, Powerbooks have been cut down, eMacs have been completely cut out)

I thought for a machine that is now 3300 dollars, 1 gig of ram would come standard for such a price. Why so much???

Powerbooks....Not even a speed bump....

I'm not too excited for now...Though the powermacs do seem pretty fast..I'll have to wait for barefeats to get some benchmarks up before I get impressed.

Now I start to believe Apple is going to come out with another new machine, sooner or later. Removing the eMacs was plain stupid on Apple's part, it was the perfect family computer without going over a 1000 dollars. :mad:
 
MacTruck said:
Do apps need to be compiled for quad cpus or will apps use them if they are dual cpu capable? For instance will my encoding in EyeTV be 70% faster or will it just not see the other 2 cpus?
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It depends (regardless not really a recompile). If he software is locked to only utilizing two threads for its processing then it wont, itself, be able to fully utilize 4 core system without modification. If the software was written to query the number of CPUs then fire up a matching number of threads then it will better utilize such a system.
 
I placed an order for a dual 2.0, didn't think the speed increment was worth the 2.3 price. I so wanted the quad. Kind which they had just offered two quad configs. 2.0 and 2.5 but anyway...we'll see when it gets here.
 
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