Well, if you JUST updated, I would assume the CPU worked up a little sweat and has to cool down. Which you know, takes time. Just because you updated doesn't mean everything gets reset to room temp.
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Apple Releases Firmware Updates for 'Late 2008' Portables
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Well, if you JUST updated, I would assume the CPU worked up a little sweat and has to cool down. Which you know, takes time. Just because you updated doesn't mean everything gets reset to room temp.
Yes, it is the correct version; the "01B" on the site is a typo. (Systems without the update were version "B00".)I have a UNI MBP 2.4 that I bought on Sunday and when I try to download the update it says I already have them.. but the Boot Rom is not the correct version
Boot ROM Version: MBP51.0074.B01
SMC Version: 1.33f8
I haven't updated and mine says MBP51.0073.B02. I think your theory may be incorrect...
Just installed both updates on my MBP. All seems to be exactly the same as before. Fans spooled up during the update... wow! I haven't ever heard them half that loud before. They're back to ~2000RPM after the update. I will do some gaming under OS X to test how they react. I don't know about Windows because I don't have it installed and never will install it, but I play GTA:SA running through Cider on OS X and the MBP has never crashed once, or gotten above around 75ºC. This is with all settings maxed, under the 9600M. Also played a bit of Flatout2 and ToCa Race Driver 3 (demos) and I can easily max the settings on those games and haven't experienced any difficulty. I'm going to check it out now and see how the fan reaction compares.
Sidenote: The sudden motion sensor was listed as an area of improvement in the SMC KB article I believe. Mine is much less sensitive now. I can move my MBP up and down decently vigorously without invoking the SMS. Much better, and much more practical I would say.
All around, great updates. Thanks Apple!
--mAc
Sidenote: The sudden motion sensor was listed as an area of improvement in the SMC KB article I believe. Mine is much less sensitive now. I can move my MBP up and down decently vigorously without invoking the SMS. Much better, and much more practical I would say.
All around, great updates. Thanks Apple!
--mAc
Update:
Just ran 4 hours of Naxxramas on the 9600GT at max settings (4xAA all sliders maxed all glow/death effects) and just fine with beautiful framerates. Even did some fights that literally covered the room in spell effects and no problems at all. About 70-75 C while gaming in fullscreen (periodically windowing to check temp), with a cooling pad on my lap isn't even noticeable. I can actually touch above my keyboard without suffering burns! I've always ran smcfancontrol at 6200rpm, so my guess is they underclocked the 9600 a little. Which is fine by me, because I'm not taking performance hits at all. Maybe in games like Crysis its an issue.
Did Apple actually fix something with a firmware patch?! Did this patch have anything to do with the 9600GT chip at all?! Regardless, I'm a much happier Unibody owner now. Hopefully this holds up...
Why is a firmware update needed to adjust fan speeds so drastically? Shouldn't good fan speed levels been tested and finalized before they release the notebooks in the first place... Makes you wonder.
Likewise. Just tried out GTA:SA under OS X for a few minutes at max settings. I think its running a little smoother even than before (possibly placebo effect? I have no FPS data) but its cooling just as well if not better. The MBP ran around 75ºC, with the fans at ~3500RPM. Right now at idle I'm seeing temps in the low 50's ºC under the 9600M, fans at ~2000RPM. Around 5ºC lower for the 9400. Add to that the SMS tweaking and the update has been excellent, to echo my earlier sentiment. Go for it kids.
--mAc
EDIT: I should mention that this was all occurring with no cooling pad of any kind. The MBP is simply sitting on a glass desk.
I think the update actually made it worse. I'm only running iTunes, Adium, Firefox, and Word and the temps up to 155F. It would only go near that high when I play Warcraft 3. Would it be a good idea to set the fan at 6200 to keep it at roughly 100 F? Or will the high speeds kill my fans more quickly? O yea, would setting some stuff under the macbook so that it's raised help the heat?
After the updates.... when transcoding video the fans start to ramp up when CPU temp is in the 70s Celsius and are keeping the machine under 80C. Before the update they would sometimes not spin up above 2000rpm until the machine CPU temp was above 100C!!
Yeah I did, but the Drive is not Broke, I can still burn CDs and still use certain DVDs now, but before everything I put in it worked just fine, no way a CD/DVD drive just gets a mind of it's own and starts deciding what it likes and doesn't, it's the Update they did, not sure which one it was, but started noticing that the disks that did work just fine before stopped shortly before Leopard came out, so it was a update before that time.
SO it's really nothing a Apple Care thing could solve, it's up to Apple to fix the BUG, I already looked into it, and read up on other forums and allot of others have the same problem.Who knows how much time they had to do real world testing on different apps? As someone who has programmed a fan routine for a homebuilt machine once, I can tell you the process involves a crapload of trial and error, and good bit of analysis of what happens with what setting. It's not usually something you can do in a day.
As if all that wasn't bad enough, fan ramps are, to a point, subjective. Some people are unnerved by 80C chips, and don't mind 35dB of noise to avoid it. Others don't care, and want silence.
rlmccormick said:I wonder if the MBPs power consumption while in sleep mode will be improved. I lose ~20% of my battery in 12 hours while in sleep mode
is it just me or does others find it unnecessary to leave your MBPs, or any laptop for that matter, in sleep/hibernation for that long? I mean, i dont mean to sound rude, but experiences tell me that nothing good can ever come out of hibernation. windows/mac/linux.. something is bound to go wrong and you wind up having to restart anyways.. but just my 2 cents
I can't install the EFI update...it says my target drive which is my Mac HD is not compatible or something like that.
This is my first Mac.
I'm going to try to click the Apple in the top right hand corner and select software update.
Anyone have any ideas?
This is my first Mac.
I'm going to try to click the Apple in the top right hand corner and select software update.
Anyone have any ideas?
After i update and reboot, the macbook-EFI-firmware-updater is still runnig in my dock. Can i close it now?
it's running for like 10 minutes now with no sign of any activity.....
I just tried, and i can't stop it (Right click on dock icon --> Stop) cmd+Q doesn't work either.......should I do a forced stop?
Nevermind, got it fixed
it's running for like 10 minutes now with no sign of any activity
.....I just tried, and i can't stop it (Right click on dock icon --> Stop) cmd+Q doesn't work either.......should I do a forced stop?
Nevermind, got it fixed
Which computer do you have and how many weeks? What do you mean you are going to try to run software update? That is what you were supposed to do in the first place. You run software update, it installs the firmware, then you quit software update. Then it will open the installer and tell you to shut down. You shut down, and then it does its thing.
My hard drive still does its idle click when stationary. I don't think it changed for me.
Likewise (got mine on Monday, too). Apparently, these patches are first applied to new systems before they are sent out to existing ones.
is it just me or does others find it unnecessary to leave your MBPs, or any laptop for that matter, in sleep/hibernation for that long? I mean, i dont mean to sound rude, but experiences tell me that nothing good can ever come out of hibernation. windows/mac/linux.. something is bound to go wrong and you wind up having to restart anyways.. but just my 2 cents
Been sleeping my Macs daily for 7 years. I can count on one hand the number of times it didn't wake correctly and those were in the early days of the Intel switch (I've got an early '06 MacBook Pro). Resuming from hibernation ('safe sleep' in Mac parlance) has also never failed whenever I've needed it. The benefit of having everything resume exactly how I left it, including VMWare Windows XP virtual machines, is priceless.
Let me guess... are you used to Windows' "Russian-roulette" approach to sleep and hibernate?
How the heck are you managing that? AFAIK the 9600GT just isn't capable of that.. If I put the draw distance above 50% it drops to about 5fps, and that's with glow effect and shadows disabled, and no AA.
You Nailed it ..... How does Apple expect this to fly when Snow Leopard comes out
..... So we are just like a windows machine now.... but since Apple is hip we get Black Screen of Death
Well I for one want to Rip my New UNiBody in half every time I have to use the trackpad in windows.... it is wwwwwaaaay BROKEN. The Driver needs to be updated.
I have a macbook pro and after the updates, the power led goes off when the machine starts to load the OS. I don't remember if it happened before the updates but i guess it remained on all the time.
Is anyone experiencing this situation?
Is anyone experiencing this situation?
Hah, same problem here! I bought a 2.53GHz MBP with the 320GB 7200rpm hard drive option from an Apple Premium Reseller here in Munich, Germany. They took a normal 2.53GHz model and swapped in an original Apple Spare Part option hard drive with OS X pre-installed, at least they say so. I was in the store while they did it, and it took maybe five minutes, not enough time to re-install OS X on it, so it's probably true.
The drive is formatted with an Apple Partition Map (the format old PowerPC Macs used), not with a GUID Partition Table (which Intel Macs use). You can check that by starting Disk Utility and clicking the hard drive (not the Macintosh HD partition), it'll say in the bottom right ("Partition Map Scheme"). It's a small miracle the machine is booting at all
What is yours there?
What hard drive, MB(P) model do you have, where did you buy it?
Does it have any optional hardware?
Did you re-format or re-partition it?
Mine:
Macbook Pro 2.53 GHz, 4GB RAM
320GB 7200rpm hard drive option (A Seagate ST9320421AS drive)
Bought in Munich, Germany, at http://www.macmuc.de/
Maybe Apple has produced a range of hard drives with the wrong formatting...
P.S: I cannot use Boot Camp for the same reason, and the only solution right now is to re-partition the drive, for which I'd need to back it up first, and I don't have the time to do that at the moment.
is it just me or does others find it unnecessary to leave your MBPs, or any laptop for that matter, in sleep/hibernation for that long? I mean, i dont mean to sound rude, but experiences tell me that nothing good can ever come out of hibernation. windows/mac/linux.. something is bound to go wrong and you wind up having to restart anyways.. but just my 2 cents
I always use sleep mode. I never turn off the power on my MBP. Did the same with my iMac and white MB when I had them and I have never had any problems.
Cheers.
Sigh, this still hasn't fixed my external display issue
I still get flashing snow :\
-Rich-
Having the same probs..its driving me nuts now