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Anyone else getting this update without being enrolled in the beta program?
EDIT: Nevermind, apparently I had enabled the option to show me beta updates at some point...

Glad I'm not the only one. I'm 100% certain I turned it off.
 
Two questions -

1 - Are there any release notes for the 10.13.1 beta?

2 - Has anyone running 10.13 had any issues with Messages, specifically when sending an SMS? The message will send but the green progress bar at the top of the window will get perpetually stuck about 90% of the way across. Happened on GM candidate as well so I would assume this has probably been present most of the beta period.
 
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I was having a weird problem with excel where, in existing spreedsheets, the text was a mirror image and upside down. This also affected brand new spreadsheets, updated office as far as I could to the early release updates and none of these fixed my problems. At the moment I'm resorting to using numbers....
Not seeing this either: I'm using Office version 15.38
 
It'd be good if it did fix the Fusion Drive issue.
I currently have a Mini with Fusion drive stuck on the last pre GM beta because I don't want to format it. I use it for SKY Go, and it only allows you to change devices once a month.
Its not showing as an update on the app store for me, but perhaps thats because my machine isn't on the GM release.
I wonder if I install GM on it as a HFS Fusion drive a later point release will offer to update it to APFS?
It’s straightforward to update HFS+ to APFS (I’m presuming it will be with Fusion too).
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P.s. if you get through to Sky Go online support and explain the issue they should reset your device count for you. I never got the sky store app to work on Sierra and so had them reset my device count a few times.
 
Anxiously awaiting APFS support for Fusion and regular HDDs.

Regular hard drives are already supported.

You have to convert from a fresh install within Disk Utility before setting up the new OS, but it works flawlessly.

I have a mid 2011 iMac with it running both HDD and external USB HDD with iTunes library and the speed is impressive compared to Sierra/HFS.
 
Maps in satellites view suddenly turns blue. No way to get satellite view back unless quitting and reopening the app. Anyone else?
 
I was having a weird problem with excel where, in existing spreedsheets, the text was a mirror image and upside down. This also affected brand new spreadsheets, updated office as far as I could to the early release updates and none of these fixed my problems. At the moment I'm resorting to using numbers....
This isn't a problem with Excel 15.38, the release version. Instead, the bug only affected 15.39 which was part of the "fast insider" update program, which is really a pretty early beta program.
 
wow, my macbook just decided it wanted this update and installed it on its own. that was interesting. just rebooted as I was going to bed. said it was installing something.. ended up waiting for it to finish cause i didnt know what it was, and I hadnt initiated it. I didnt even do the HS beta's, not sure why it decided it wanted this update.
 
Has anyone had any issues with old Aperture and the full screen mode "F" key causing the program to crash? They had fixed it with Sierra and wondered if it still worked with High Sierra?
 
Has anyone had any issues with old Aperture and the full screen mode "F" key causing the program to crash? They had fixed it with Sierra and wondered if it still worked with High Sierra?

I'm pleased to confirm that entering and leaving full screen in Aperture is working here normally, with Aperture 3.6 under High Sierra 10.13.1b1 (17B25c) on a late 2013 15" rMBP. I haven't been using Aperture much in the last two months (lens failure), but it seems to've been unaffected by High Sierra throughout the beta period, other than a glitch in one of the betas.
[doublepost=1506703871][/doublepost]That's a relief - coming from the GM build, this update left iTunes at 12.6.
 
Makes you wonder why he is not using pages or numbers.

Pages and keynote are good, but for the life of me, I could not figure out Numbers. What do you have to do to get the equivalent "File > New" experience that Excel has - just a giant cell array?
 
Pages and keynote are good, but for the life of me, I could not figure out Numbers. What do you have to do to get the equivalent "File > New" experience that Excel has - just a giant cell array?

You can resize the table, but Numbers, by design, does not do full-size table. Instead, you can lay out multiple tables (and other stuff like charts) on your sheet.
 
It used to take them months to even acknowledge issues, that alone fix them. Now they are release patches within a week of a software release? It means they knew these bugs existed when they released the software. Welcome to the new Apple where meeting your release date is more important than releasing quality products.
 
Weird. In 13.1 I get iTunes launching by itself every so often. Didn’t happen in 13.0.

Reverting to 13.0.

EDIT:

Not an issue with 13.1 specifically. Somehow after the update the IR sensor is launching iTunes every time I press the Guide button on the remote control for the TV. If I press Info, it mutes the MacBook.
 
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What MS Office issues?
Sorry for late reply. Some annoying bugs here: MS Excel is displaying some documents upside down. Word when searching through a document, the yellow highlight will stay as an artefact until I close Word completely.
I have sent feedback to MS on both. Hope they will fix it this year ;)

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It used to take them months to even acknowledge issues, that alone fix them. Now they are release patches within a week of a software release? It means they knew these bugs existed when they released the software. Welcome to the new Apple where meeting your release date is more important than releasing quality products.

Things were much better when they were on the 2 year release cycle. That ended at Mountain Lion and has been plaguing iOS as well. People’s attention spans are too short nowadays to wait 2 years for a major software update though. A problem onset by mobile devices and the internet, ironically.
 
does this fix the failed upload due to disk management error that leaves you with a very expensive desk ornament? I wonder how many people have had this problem and why hasn't it been mentioned on the home page of Mac rumors?
 
I had that issue as well, but simply scrolling the spreadsheet sorted it; working normally now,

10.13.1 Beta resolved the issue of the upside down reverse text issue for me. Additionally, the above solution wasn't a very good one if your spreadsheet was 2000000 pages hehe
 
Lets also hope it fixes Yahoo Mail, e.g.:

1. Can't always delete mails
2. Drafts get left in that folder, multiple copies per mail, even when the mail has been sent

The bug affected the Yahoo Business Services email as well as plain Yahoo IMAP. (The Business Services were sold off a long time ago, but the bug affected them as well.) 10.13.1 has solved the IMAP move error for me, when deleting an item in my business account.
 
Things were much better when they were on the 2 year release cycle. That ended at Mountain Lion and has been plaguing iOS as well. People’s attention spans are too short nowadays to wait 2 years for a major software update though. A problem onset by mobile devices and the internet, ironically.

I don't think it makes much of a difference. Massive features get developed on separate branches anyway — APFS, for instance, was clearly developed for several years, with small portions eventually merged into 10.12 Sierra, and much larger ones (such as support for booting and encryption) into 10.13 Sierra. Releasing annually hasn't kept Apple from doing that.

However, previously, there wasn't as much schedule pressure. Leopard was delayed by a few months, for instance, and it was no big deal. Now, they have to ship all OSes by fall, as features from each other depend on it. As an example, if 10.13 High Sierra hadn't shipped, or had shipped without HEIF and HEVC support, that would've compelled the iOS team to either also not ship, or to remove HEIF and HEVC until a later release — otherwise, you'd have shot photos on your iPhone that you then wouldn't be able to edit on your Mac.

I don't think the annual schedule is a big problem; it's easy to remember and keeps people focus. The pressure to ship four platforms each year to over a billion devices, though? That's a pretty big deal. And so if they can help it at all, they delay some features (such as Fusion Drive APFS support or iMessage in iCloud) that aren't quite there.
 
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