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I mean if I can manually quit and have it reopen as I had it, that would be good. As long as there's a manual option there, I don't need to wait for a timeout, nor would I run into the problem of cmd+tabbing to Mail, then going back to Safari only to have to wait for it to resume (ie. I'd leave it completely running).

If you have little memory and large documents loaded, Mail will cause Safari to swap out and you will have to wait anyway. So this suspend-resume thing is just swapping taken to another level (say, being able to sustain a reboot, and not take up both physical and virtual memory when not in use).

Or, maybe, old good "deep sleep" feature of your computer but on a per-application basis.
 
The real issue is where or not Rosetta environment is present in Lion. Snow Leopard had it as an option. Hopefully, Lion will have it too.
 
Quitting an app

I only used Lion for a moment, but I was able to quit apps by right clicking them in the dock and selecting quit. Same as Snow Leopard.
 
I only used Lion for a moment, but I was able to quit apps by right clicking them in the dock and selecting quit. Same as Snow Leopard.

You'd need to check Activity Monitor and see whether they actually quit or were suspended. I suspect it was the latter.
 
If you fail to see why they don't fix it, I invite you to answer to my question above: given that the final image is rasterized, and that a video card talks in pixels and bitmaps, how are you going to deal with a dual display setup with different pixel densities per display, and a window is half on one display and half on another? I, for one, don't see an acceptable solution for today's graphics cards which would not require CPU loads way above acceptable limits.

My understanding is that Windows 7 does it. Are you saying there is some design problem with the OS X GUI APIs that *prevents* any handling of Resolution Independence? Given that we've been having this discussion above 5 years I'm actually beginning to think this is the problem.

Instead of getting stuck trying to work out every corner case that might come up for every possible scenario, why don't we make 95% of the world happy and just provide a system wide DPI setting? That's better than we have now because I can pick a compromise DPI if I happen to have two monitors with different DPIs. Once that works and the majority of applications do the "right thing" when presented with non 72 DPI screens, then we'll have a *much* better chance of properly handling mixed DPI systems.
 
Oh boy. OpenGL 3.2. Only two years behind the rest of the world now! :rolleyes:

iOS features....so what? The App store was already added to Snow Leopard. Launch pad sounds unnecessary. Mail updates are an app update, not an OS update.

Overall, this seems like a MINOR update in the features announced so far. I'm pretty underwhelmed. Let's see how much they charge for it. I also wonder how much slower it will be than Snow Leopard given Snow Leopard was supposed to be an "optimized" Leopard yet runs slower in almost every regard! Removing PPC files and then making everything else slower isn't my idea of optimized.
 
I for one am looking forward to Launchpad like on iOS. Means I can consolidate down what is in my dock. Notice my dock and my folders. Some of the items in my dock cannot be grouped into a folder - as the library dependency will make the app crash if not in the Applications folder (but moved to a sub folder).

Ever heard of aliases?
 
What, no sign of tabs in Finder for 10.7?

A month ago I purchased one of the commercially available apps that adds tabs to Finder, thinking "Well, this will feel like a waste of money when Lion hits..."

I'm very happy with my tabbed Finder, so I suppose I can look forward to a Lion version of the app in question. But it would have been nice to have native Finder tabs in 2011.

Could tabs be added before release? Is it possible Apple is withholding Finder tabs (and other goodies) from the developer build?

Re. Lion's iOS-style autosave-as-you-go feature for documents, it does work and it does feel natural - after a period of adjustment - in a full computing environment.

I've been using a freeware text editor called Notational Velocity for a while. It uses autosave-as-you-go. It's very odd at first. I found myself deliberately quitting and restarting to make sure that, yes, it really does save as you go, reliably.

Whilst using it my fingers still itch to reach for CMD-S from time to time, but its live autosave really works. It makes sense for this to be the new paradigm in computing. It'll become the norm. 5 years from now, having to manually save documents will be just another thing we won't be able to believe we ever actually did. I'm looking forward to it. Shame about those tabs in Finder, though.
 
My understanding is that Windows 7 does it. Are you saying there is some design problem with the OS X GUI APIs that *prevents* any handling of Resolution Independence?
Windows 7 does have RI but it's problem is exactly why Apple pulled it the testing in OS X; Few 3rd party developers support it so it ends up looking like garbage.
 
What, no sign of tabs in Finder for 10.7?

A month ago I purchased one of the commercially available apps that adds tabs to Finder, thinking "Well, this will feel like a waste of money when Lion hits..."

I'm very happy with my tabbed Finder, so I suppose I can look forward to a Lion version of the app in question. But it would have been nice to have native Finder tabs in 2011.

Could tabs be added before release? Is it possible Apple is withholding Finder tabs (and other goodies) from the developer build?

There are likely features that Apple is still holding back, but this is the general gist of Lion.
 
Could tabs be added before release? Is it possible Apple is withholding Finder tabs (and other goodies) from the developer build?

It's possible. Apple is almost definitely withholding some stuff for later. Tabs (or a dropstack) would be great, it would allow for me to ditch Pathfinder.
 
It seems to me that Resume, Auto Save & Versions, and the matter that apps/files will no longer be open/closed (per se) but rather more like awake and sleeping is all part of the same larger paradigm shift.

I really wonder why file transfer between Mac and iPad will be via the server functionality in Lion instead of AirDrop which is integrated with Finder?

I’d also like to know if the Quick Look window will be changed to auto size to the correct dimensions of the file selected. There is some minor Finder functionality I’d also like, but I won’t bore you all.
 
It's possible. Apple is almost definitely withholding some stuff for later. Tabs (or a dropstack) would be great, it would allow for me to ditch Pathfinder.

I'd have been all over Pathfinder if it wasn't for its dodgy Dropbox support, and the fact that I was only really interested in tabs. I went for TotalFinder in the end, thinking - hoping - that Lion would come along and make me feel foolish. I still hope it might, but I think the Pathfinder and TotalFinder devs must be cracking open a bottle or two tonight.
 
I really wonder why file transfer between Mac and iPad will be via the server functionality in Lion instead of AirDrop which is integrated with Finder?

unless and until there's user access to some sort of filesystem (or "downloads folder") on the iPhone, it would be pretty inelegant.
 
I'd have been all over Pathfinder if it wasn't for its dodgy Dropbox support, and the fact that I was only really interested in tabs. I went for TotalFinder in the end, thinking - hoping - that Lion would come along and make me feel foolish. I still hope it might, but I think the Pathfinder and TotalFinder devs must be cracking open a bottle or two tonight.

I would've gone with TotalFinder had it existed when I got PathFinder, as Tabs is all I really use too. (Though the split view/dropstack are also nice.)

Curious though what was wrong with PathFinder's DropBox support. Works fine for me.
 
Hmm, hopefully Lion will have a revamped Finder, as well as support for SATA III, blu-ray, and TRIM cmd for SSD's (maybe ZFS filesystem too).
 
Hmm, hopefully Lion will have a revamped Finder, as well as support for SATA III, blu-ray, and TRIM cmd for SSD's (maybe ZFS filesystem too).

SATA III support is a given, Bluray definitely not, TRIM maybe. ZFS, no, there were licensing issues.
 
Curious though what was wrong with PathFinder's DropBox support. Works fine for me.

There were two problems I came across in the PF demo. One was right-click context menus sometimes needing a restart of PF to work. The other was the Dropbox icon not appearing on the files in the DB folder. I have come to rely on Dropbox to an alarming degree, and part of that reliance is noting when the green checkmark has become a spinning blue updating icon, and vice versa. In Pathfinder, that checkmark/spinning icon doesn't appear.

I loved the idea of Pathfinder and spent a few hours researching workarounds. In the end I stumbled upon TotalFinder - a bolt-on to Finder rather than a whole separate app - and my search ended there.

All of the tab-based anxieties could have been ended with a revamped Finder in Lion. I was so sure that we were going to get it that I was and am surprised it hasn't happened. Apparently.
 
Man, I really hate that pastel, blurred out, Mt. Kilimanjaro (or whatever it is) desktop background they're using. Makes OS X "Lion" look more like OS X "Easter Bunny" or OS X "Care Bears". Yuck.
 
I'm still considering suing Apple for the $2000 in iTunes purchases I lost when my first snow leopard install destroyed my iMac.

I've occasionally lost in iTunes purchase. Talked to iTunes support, they checked that I'd actually bought the item, and a bit later I got an email telling me to download it again.

Have you talked to them yet?
 
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