Apple Releases First Developer Preview of Mac OS X Lion

[h4ck]

aw how cute, someone passed a couple apple cert exams at prometrics. so have i. several. get over yourself.

when the system is being set up, you define if its a server or not. this will in _no_way_ effect you as a help desk person.

Stuff like this doesn't help them. This is yet another thing I have to restrict/remove to keep users from setting up their own "servers."

 

[torbjoern]

Man, I really hate that pastel, blurred out, Mt. Kilimanjaro (or whatever it is) desktop background they're using. Makes OS X "Lion" look more like OS X "Easter Bunny" or OS X "Care Bears". Yuck.

Looks more like Mt. Fuji to me - and I don't see how an arbitrary background image can affect the impression of an entire OS.

 

[I WAS the one]

I think Apple is noticing that a lot of geniuses are growing from the ground up with great ideas and concepts and people are open these days to try new technologies. Today computers are tools and not a cool toy anymore so I think we all going to see a faster improvement on Apple products with state of the art designs and software development. Thanks to Goggle with the Android OS because without it Apple wouldn't be such a boyscout introducing so many good stuff at the same time. We are the winners at the end. Next step will be wireless power. Apple will be the one to introduce a wireless battery that will recharge from an iOutlet that use bluetooth technology to power up a system without cables.. LOL imagine that! (I'm joking guys)

 

[steveh]

Try sharing a dual login iMac with a wife who never closes an app and keeps dozens of tabs open in her browser.

Is this a diagnostic behavior of wives? In our case, fortunately, we don't have to share any of our machines.

But doing any work on hers (updates, etc.) creeps me out, what with apparently all available applications running in the background at all times...

And the browser tabs.

 

[me_94501]

This is one of the more ridiculous cases of Chicken Little-ism I've seen in a while. Although I think the great pentalobe screw conspiracy tops it.

EDIT: To clarify, the system will not jettison apps that are active or backgrounded (i.e. apps that are using CPU cycles). Only apps that not designed for the feature and are in a non running cached state, or apps that support the feature and are in a suspended (non-running, but resumable) state. It's not going to just go shutting down your apps willy-nilly. Only cases where it is safe to do so.

Chicken-littleism to you. Legitimate concern to others, especially given the derth of information out of Cupertino.

A lot of the new user-interaction stuff in Lion has me concerned. Not a "oh-no-what-hath-Apple-wrought" way, but moreso, "Uh, I'm not sure how this is going to work out, and I have lots of questions about it, and how it'll impact my workflow. I guess we'll wait and see."

 

[steveh]

If you look at the dock, though, you will see it is not. Which is odd.

Dashboard isn't in my dock (I tossed it out as redundant, what with the dedicated key and all).

When I bring up dashboard, there's no still no dashboard icon that appears in the doc while it's running.

 

[karsten]

I've occasionally lost in iTunes purchase. Talked to iTunes support, they checked that I'd actually bought the item, and a bit later I got an email telling me to download it again.

Have you talked to them yet?

i tried that once and they told me i was sol

 

[calderone]

aw how cute, someone passed a couple apple cert exams at prometrics. so have i. several. get over yourself.

when the system is being set up, you define if its a server or not. this will in _no_way_ effect you as a help desk person.

Helpdesk, lol. I love people who assume things in order to make themselves seem superior.

BTW, this was already covered many posts back. Nice try. You actually define it during install, this is what I didn't know when the initial info hit. It will have an affect on me when I need to build new images though, considering I need to change my package options.

Dare I say, get over yourself?

 

[Doctor Q]

Resize form all corners? That's just catering to the anti-apple crowd. I liked it when that was used as a "superior" quality of windows. LOL

This sounds necessary but it really isn't.

I think more Apple finally listen to its users telling them that they want that because is is really nice feature windows has over OSX. Now if they could only include all sizes as well and it would be able to match windows in easy resizing.

Please. No one cares about multiple corner resizing options. A handful of users are complaining at most.

At least one user cares. This feature has been at the top of my wishlist since 2003 (and earlier). It'll save me a little effort and a little time each time I'm arranging windows, and when you multiple that by the amount of time I use Macs, and the number of windows I always have open on my dual displays, it adds up to a significant improvement.

 

[linux2mac]

We don't restrict our users from being admins on their box.

Wow! That sounds insane to me. I cannot think of a scenario where I would give users admin rights. The only way I would give users admin rights is if I were teaching a course on systems administration to users.

 

[blow45]

color coding is something that's very sadly missing from lion, like I said, what's with greying (or coloring over) every other button, and every side bar...

 

[karsten]

color coding is something that's very sadly missing from lion, like I said, what's with greying (or coloring over) every other button, and every side bar...

wonder if there will be any theming options. change the whole color scheme and such. the gray title bars are getting annoying that's for sure they could use some transparency.

 

[theumang]

Redmond, start your copy-machines!

Dang! iWanted to be the 1st one to suggest that

 

[majorchestnut]

Does anyone know if they changed the hideous looking blue borders around active windows in Expose?

 

[Cougarcat]

Does anyone know if they changed the hideous looking blue borders around active windows in Expose?

+1. I changed mine to the blue border from Safari's Top Sites. Look's MUCH better.

 

[calderone]

Wow! That sounds insane to me. I cannot think of a scenario where I would give users admin rights. The only way I would give users admin rights is if I were teaching a course on systems administration to users.

Our company culture is not restrictive in that fashion.

 

[sjk]

Think of the Normal Users who never Command-Q apps (yes, these people exist) and only close windows, then wonder why their computer has slowed to a crawl.

Never realizing more's possible than clicking the red gumdrop.

And there's the slowness for/of Normal Users who still power off/on their Macbooks between every usage. Looks like Lion won't change that.

 

[blow45]

wonder if there will be any theming options. change the whole color scheme and such. the gray title bars are getting annoying that's for sure they could use some transparency.

actually that I really like, although they could offer the option to do it transparent a la title bar, but it's criminal that they are greying out the side bars where even more colour would be required actually to be much more usable. This style change even goes against apple's own published style guides to developers...I can't understand it, I think it's change for change's sake.

 

[abhimat.gautam]

I really hope Spaces isn’t removed, as some have been suggesting. Although Spaces is a little unintuitive, I find it very difficult to work on computers without multiple desktops now.

 

[TheAshMan]

Nice to see

"Versions, which automatically saves successive versions of your document as you create it, and gives you an easy way to browse, edit and even revert to previous versions; "

Not saying it's because of me but I sent this exact suggestion to OS X Feedback.

It should be noted that Windows has had this capability since XP SP2. Nice to see Apple adding it and some of the other features.

 

[cmaier]

I really hope Spaces isn’t removed, as some have been suggesting. Although Spaces is a little unintuitive, I find it very difficult to work on computers without multiple desktops now.

Pretty sure Apple said Spaces will be there.

It should be noted that Windows has had this capability since XP SP2. Nice to see Apple adding it and some of the other features.

I'm running XP SP2 on my server machine and don't have that feature as far as I know. How does it work?

 

[iLunar]

I know that, but in almost every other dock image, certainly of Snow Leopard, it is featured there. With the amount of things on that dock, why would it not be there?

Also, my point still stands- will Apple remove the dedicated Dashboard keyboard key and replace it with either a Mission Control or Launchpad key- since these are the new flagship features of Lion? That would make sense to me. The question is, then, would existing machines' Dashboard button on the keyboard still be used for Dashboard after they've upgraded to Lion, or would that functionality change. I know no one knows the answer, but it's something small to think about.

I love my Dashboard, I use it all the time, but rarely use the button on the keyboard. I like using a trackpad gesture for it.

However, the new Dashboard is UGLY. I hate those texture backgrounds. Why can't they just leave it as a transparent black background with your desktop image showing?

 

[NT1440]

It should be noted that Windows has had this capability since XP SP2. Nice to see Apple adding it and some of the other features.

I never noticed that. Does it also have the Time-machine-esque interface to easily view prior versions of a document?

 

[G58]

Holy carp!

I just sent this to Steve. It's not my vid, but it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1PAOAIe-I8

 

[jaw04005]

That was the easiest desktop operating system upgrade I've ever did in my life.

Wow.

I hope they pull a Snow Leopard and charge $29 for Lion on the App Store.