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OS X sure has come a loooooooong way. It's pretty much unrecognizable from it's first days.

That's because that wasn't OS X.

Early OS X looked like this:
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That's because that wasn't OS X.

Early OS X looked like this:
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Even if he mistook Rhapsody for OSX, I think his point still stands. It has improved A LOT! :)

Having used both, it's hard to believe how pretty, fast, and lacking in 'beachballs' OSX is now!
 
have you noticed you can use 1 finger side scrolling in safari with the magic mouse for navigation? thats kind of cool. i set it up in but for global to be consistent too heh.

also i think apple is purposely releasing snippets of all these functionalities beginning with that keynote a while back then this release to get user feedback, all while they are saving a huge interface update for last. something pretty drastic to make it look more modern. that's my prediction:)


You can only move horizontally spaces now. Control-left/right arrow. (or control-number key to go directly to a space.) The concept of spaces as a "grid" is gone.

maybe someone will write an app to re-enable them:)
 
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You can only move horizontally spaces now. Control-left/right arrow. (or control-number key to go directly to a space.) The concept of spaces as a "grid" is gone.
Will take some adjustment to lose the convenience of my 3x3 Spaces grid.
 
I think he is right. As much as the power user needs them (not really, actually), the normal user can't get his head across a single tabbed finder. Good thing, Apple didn't get rid of it.

Also, if you were a power user, you'd stay in terminal rather than multiple tabs in a finder.

A tabbed Finder is very useful on smaller, laptop screens where it's hard to fit more than one window on screen at once. Also, normal users use a tabbed browser all day long, why couldn't they understand a tabbed file browser?
 
You can only move horizontally spaces now. Control-left/right arrow. (or control-number key to go directly to a space.) The concept of spaces as a "grid" is gone.

Oo. That sorta sucks. But I do tend to use the left-right most of the time, I suppose. Still, I'm used to thinking of spaces as a grid, not a chain.

Can you drag windows between spaces from mission control?
 
Air Drop

Air Drop sounds nice. But Lion ought to have a second (and, for my purposes, even better) means of file transfer: dragging icons between your desktop and open Screen Sharing windows.
 
Air Drop sounds nice. But Lion ought to have a second (and, for my purposes, even better) means of file transfer: dragging icons between your desktop and open Screen Sharing windows.

In our time people don't use just a single computer no more. We have laptop and desktop computers, tablets and smartphones; all these devices should work as one. I think Apple started working on that, however they made little steps. Hope to see more in the near future.
 
What still has me a bit confused (even as a pretty tech-savvy guy) is the purpose of all these new "launch points." We now have:

1) Desktop
2) Applications Folder
3) Dock
4) Launchpad

The obvious confusion stems from the Dock and Launchpad existing together. The Dock is a great way to manage running applications and open documents/windows, but in terms of launching Applications it is completely and absolutely replicated by Launchpad.

Will we see the Dock lose the ability to launch apps, and instead see it become a tool for managing running applications and open documents? :confused: Right now there just seems to be a lot of redundancy.

Desktop: I got temporary stuff
Dock: quick launch/open apps
Launchpad: is what I was hoping is going to replace the application folder(for me)

I hate going in the application folder to and scroll the apps to find the one I'm going to launch. I rather have some sort of pages like in launchpad so that I can categorize them in some sort as I don't want folders and sub folders, but that is just me.
 
You can only move horizontally spaces now. Control-left/right arrow. (or control-number key to go directly to a space.) The concept of spaces as a "grid" is gone.

Apple sure is good at destroying their own good ideas and reducing them to mush. The grid was perfectly functional. App launchers? Might as well get rid of the Dock. Hell, just dump all the Macs and use the iPad while they're at it. (BTW, Linux has the best version of 'spaces' ever...a spinning cube. But unlike OSX, you can pretty much make it work any way you want, not have someone give you a neat feature in one OS version and then take it away in the next one)

I think I'll skip Lion. I'm still regretting moving to Snow Leopard, given it made my 2008 MBP slower overall.
 
I think you misunderstood the text. It only said that there will also be an OS X Lion Server product. Nobody said that Lion Server will be a part of Lion. OS X Lion and OS X Lion Server will very obviously still be two separate products.

OS X Lion Server still is a product that cannot be taken seriously, though, unless they change its EULA so that it can legally be run on non-Apple server hardware. Because, in case people have already forgotten it, Apple is no longer developing and selling server hardware.

The Mac Mini exists in a server configuration.

And even hitler knows that a Mac Mini can easily handle a 2000 client setup :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kKerSnyIZw
 
Then why not use Spotlight or some other more convenient method to launch apps that already exists?
You have a point; however, my first istinct is always to click than type.
Just mentioning it as a possible alternative to what you said you hate doing. :)

Since you're mouse-oriented, you could create a folder with aliases to apps you commonly launch, drag that to the Dock, and click there to get the limited app list. I think /Applications is in the Dock on Snow Leopard and clicking brings up the scrollable grid by default.

There are easier methods, both mouse and keyboard centric, than opening the /Applications folder in Finder when you want to launch apps.

Ever heard about to one his own? :rolleyes:
To each his/her own, sure. Apparently you missed my point/intention, which I just explained to Fraaaa.
 
You have a point; however, my first istinct is always to click than type.

I spend most of my time in windows 7 these days due to school work and my power house computer is windows 7 but one thing I wish Apple would steal from MS is how the start menu works now in windows 7 (and maybe vista, never used vista)
That is I hit the start menu then start typing. From there in real time is updating a list of programs and file names that contain what I am typing. I think spotlight works a lot like that. I never really used spot light because it just never just worked.

MS set up in windows 7 well just works.

I still call the Dock a wannabe task bar. I just wish MS would some how get something like Expose working in its OS then it would be great. I would have the best of both worlds.
 
One other thing OSX would benefit from would be the addition of a dual-pane mode for the Finder. I get sick of having to open two separate windows, re-size them, etc. every time I want to copy files around between drives and/or computers. I used to have dual-pane clear back on the Commodore Amiga with Diskmaster (I and II) (Dir Opus also had it). How hard would it be for Apple to just tie two finder windows together into one window? They should have done it ages ago, IMO.

I've seen a 3rd party finder replacement that offers it and still otherwise resembles the official finder (Pathfinder), but it's not cheap ($40 per license and $19.95 for updates), especially if you own several Macs. The update thing is the worst. It breaks on the next OSX update and another $20 to fix it again...ugh. No thanks. I'll just open two finder windows for now.

There are a couple of dual-pane freebies out there (XFolders and MuCommander), but they lack the full finder interface so you have to get used to finding your drives in a different manner plus they don't appear to work with Snow Leopard (let alone Lion).
 
One other thing OSX would benefit from would be the addition of a dual-pane mode for the Finder. I get sick of having to open two separate windows, re-size them, etc. every time I want to copy files around between drives and/or computers. I used to have dual-pane clear back on the Commodore Amiga with Diskmaster (I and II) (Dir Opus also had it). How hard would it be for Apple to just tie two finder windows together into one window? They should have done it ages ago, IMO.

I've seen a 3rd party finder replacement that offers it and still otherwise resembles the official finder (Pathfinder), but it's not cheap ($40 per license and $19.95 for updates), especially if you own several Macs. The update thing is the worst. It breaks on the next OSX update and another $20 to fix it again...ugh. No thanks. I'll just open two finder windows for now.

There are a couple of dual-pane freebies out there (XFolders and MuCommander), but they lack the full finder interface so you have to get used to finding your drives in a different manner plus they don't appear to work with Snow Leopard (let alone Lion).

BetterTouchTool includes a function similar to Windows 7's window comparing (move a window to the either side of the screen and it fills that half the screen).

With this, it's quite easy to put two finder windows side-by-side: CMD+N, CMD+N, drag, drag.

EDIT: It seems it has been uploaded as a separate tool (BetterSnapTool) on the App Store for $2.49 AUD. There is also one called Cinch, but it costs a little bit more.
 
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I want to know who stated that Lion had OpenGL 3.2 support - I'm running it on my iMac and MacBook Pro - both of them are OpenGL 3.x compatible and GLView are showing that only 2.1 is enabled. I then checked the software based implementation and that is only OpenGL 2.1.

Who the heck started up that rumour? there is no basis to it - talk about the Macrumors editor being trololololed badly.
 
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Just wondering, if we assume that the disk of León cost around $ 70-80 usually around £ 60 here and developers can download the latest beta versions you including free, can be obtained only in the developer program for León and treated early in a virtual PC for the cost of development - just a little more than the usual cost of Mac OS? I'm playing with IOS development so that it could only change for the development of Mac OS and try to make use of the advantages of the development program as well.
 
I want to know who stated that Lion had OpenGL 3.2 support - I'm running it on my iMac and MacBook Pro - both of them are OpenGL 3.x compatible and GLView are showing that only 2.1 is enabled. I then checked the software based implementation and that is only OpenGL 3.2.

Who the heck started up that rumour? there is no basis to it - talk about the Macrumors editor being trololololed badly.

It's not a rumor.
It's in the documentation....

API is there, needs hardware driver support now...
 
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