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Stop freaking out about Gatekeeper.

It's a good thing; for those that are less knowledgable about computers, I'd much rather them use the App Store then anything else.

For those that are more knowledgable, you know how to go turn it off and you can continue installing as normal.

Seriously, this is a good thing for security.
 
I wonder when will they ship a version of OSX that prohibits everything from other sources but the App Store.

Gatekeeper looks like the next step in that direction.

Why? Gatekeeper is very obvious, and very useful. The application writer can do whatever they want. The customer has a certain level of security: If Apple receives notice that the app does something nasty, either on purpose or by accident, then Apple can kill it. Exactly what you want to prevent Trojans, which are currently the one real threat.
 
Something called Gatekeeper, and promoting it as a security feature. And all this time I've been told countless times that it's impossible for Macs to get viruses.
This is nothing more than a sneaky way to push the App Store. They know the average user wont even find the setting to disable this and then in iOS X 10.9 Cougar, you can't disable it.

This isn't suggesting OS X is going to get a yearly overhaul, this looks more like a "service pack" just like Windows 7 was a service pack for Vista

Viruses =/= malware
 
Stop freaking out about Gatekeeper.

It's a good thing; for those that are less knowledgable about computers, I'd much rather them use the App Store then anything else.

For those that are more knowledgable, you know how to go turn it off and you can continue installing as normal.

Seriously, this is a good thing for security.

While true, it would still be reactionary security. In others words, it would need to be first determined that some software is malicious in order for Apple to revoke the certificate (similar to their anti-malware code signature update ability).

So a user may still install something that is not secure. The added layer is whether or not someone writing malware is going to go through the hassle of getting their app signed, given that it requires some degree of personal information.
 
Screw iOS. It's not even remotely sophisticated. And what became of the old: "Think differently"?!
I'm a sworn Apple fanboy, but this "take something from iOS, scale it up and call it innovation" is seriously pissing me off. I know, as do everyone else, that Apple is on its way to unify iOS and OS X. And that's fine. Now we've got the things from iOS that make sense incorporated into Lion. Full screen apps and a somewhat succesfull Mission Control. The only thing left is the speed, which apparently Apple forgot right after they were done with SL. Now it's time to turn away from iOS and rethink some of OS X's many strengths..

Don't give us any more Launchpad-like features.. Please.. Apple. Think differently again. I want an iPad with an intelligent incorporation of features from the Mac. Not the other way 'round.

(Sorry guys, I had to blow off some steam.)
an iPad with true multi-tasking would be awesome. Will we ever get that with iOS?
 
I think Apple is doing the right thing here.

There are millions of iOS device sales each quarter. And Apple want a good iOS halo effect. So when the iOS users purchase that Mac they will know how to use it easily and just enjoy it. Sure they'll keep in stuff like Terminal for the advanced users out there. But for everyone else they'll have slick easy to use OS.

And before you scream, "I want my customisable OS X", stop and think. You'll still get that. Just with the best iOS bits thrown in.

Back in the day everything was based around the Mac. As in you want anything, you sync it to the Mac to get it to work. The Mac was the central hub. But times have changed. And today more people buy iOS devices. So they changed things so there is no hub or required device. They all are just one part of the eco system. None more important than the other.

And I think Apple realise a lot of people love their iOS apps but are sad they don't get the same App functionality on OS X as well. Lion and ML are the start to fixing this. And one day you'll have simultaneous iOS and OS X app releases. That talk to each other through the cloud.

This makes sense from a hardware point of view too. They are making it so one day any Apple device will suit most basic needs. So if one Apple machine does not sell well they can discontinue it and invent another or redirect you to another. And it'll be no hit to most users as Apple's aim is to have the same basic functionality on all APple devices. Be them iOS or OS X.

OS X will not be touch screen for the forseeable future and iOS will be handheld for the forseeable future. But both will play your music, edit photos, make music, surf the internet, have various forms of internet chat, apps that link up and do the same things etc etc. And this gives Apple a very large scope as to which way they want to go with their hardware.

Would I be sad to be forced to move to an iOS like device many (20+) years from now? Not at all of the iOS like device did everything my Mac does now. But it'll probably do it even better. And this is the future. Very exciting.
 
I don't like Autosave, Versions and the loss of Save As. What is your advice?

(Please don't tell me "then don't upgrade." When I had to replace an aging, underpowered Mac Mini with a new one last summer, I didn't have that option.)

That Mini should be able to run SL...
 
combined with the other new features, yes.

  • iCloud - Already have this.
  • Messages - iChat with iMessage, should have come with Lion.
  • Reminders - Already have this.
  • Notes - Already have this.
  • Notification Center - Should have come with Lion.
  • Share Sites - Rather pointless.
  • Twitter - Already have this (minus some intergration) with the Twitter App.
  • Game Center - Should have come with Lion.
  • AirPlay Mirroring - This one is actually pretty cool. But it should have come with Lion.
  • Gatekeeper - Makes sure the Mac App Store is the main source for Apps.

Disappointing in my opinion. Its either stuff we already have or stuff that should have come with Lion. Hopefully there are more features to be announced, hopefully Siri. Otherwise this is a disappointing upgrade that just makes Lion a little more of what it should have been.
 
"Apple has indicated that it will move the operating system into a yearly major version release schedule, as it does with iOS."

Interesting.
 
This isn't a "new" O/S . There's a reason it's called "Mountain" Lion.

Like another poster said it's like a service pack for Lion.

The whole "Service Pack"/"Full Version"/"OEM Version"/"Upgrade Version" is just how Microsoft arranges its release, not a natural law of OS development.

The way Microsoft delivers its OS has nothing to do with the way Apple releases its own OS. Mountain Lion is an OS, and it's newer than Lion. Some percentage of the code is new and some percentage of the code is carried over. There's no law that says that an OS is only new if 11.368% or more of the code is freshly written. :rolleyes:
 
I'm not particularly excited over any of these new "features", nor was I particularly excited over any of the new "features" in Lion, but it worries me about the potential precedent Gatekeeper could be setting. I'm not a fan of the mac app store and just the thought of one day being forced into that environment doesn't bode well for me.

I'm not sure how many of you have had your itunes account hacked into, but it isn't a pleasant experience, and I for one was glad that it didn't affect my main computer. Thinking that one day I may be forced to deal with it on my main machine has for the first time in a long time, made me consider switching over to another OS.

For anyone who claims that this was my fault...I use supposed "good" password and username techniques when it comes to anything involving payment accounts. Having one of them compromised is a major hassle and a stressful experience which I don't need in my life.

I don't particularly care if Apple does this iOS stuff to their apps or even UI, I just want a lightweight, stable OS with the ability to turn features on and off at my discretion, even if I have to dig in systems preferences to do that. That's really all I ask for, you can even put this stuff on by default, I don't care, just allow me to turn it all off or on.
 
Is this the same in 10.7?

No, in 10.7 you can boot to a 32-bit kernel and use 32-bit kernel extensions. It is actually required for the GMA 950 and the GMA X3100, neither of which have 64-bit KEXTs. Either Apple will do the development work to get those KEXTs developed, or will drop support for devices that have them in. My money is on the latter...
 
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