Apple Releases First Developer Preview of OS X Mountain Lion, Public Launch in Late Summer

[miles01110]

I really hate when people say that when you know just as well as I do that Apple will shove the update down my throat. My MBP is six years old this year, and is very much showing its age. I will be purchasing a 2012 MBP shortly after release, out of necessity. I don't know whether it will come with Lion or ML, but from what I'm reading, either way I don't want it. I do not like iOS that much.

So you say "purchase an early 2011 MBP that runs SL," and I would do but I can't expect that'll last me more than six years either (and it's already a year old). Really, as far as I can tell, my best option is to Hackintosh SL onto my Mac, which seems a bit ridiculous.

So my point: don't just go around saying "Then don't upgrade!" when you know as well as I do it's not that simple.

Unless you truly need any of the hardware changes in a refresh - most people dont - then you have a simple choice to make. Upgrade and adapt, or find an older model and deal with the consequences of making that decision. Apple does not shove any updates down anyone's throat.

 

[heisenberg123]

The people that are worried about Gatekeeper aren't bothered by how it's currently implemented. The people that are bothered by Gatekeeper are worried about the foreshadowing that is to come through this precedent. If Gatekeeper remains AS IS in its flexibility, then fine, who cares, but the skeptic in me (and everyone should be skeptical to a degree) doesn't think that will be the case.

well thats a big maybe to me, would apple really want to cut ties will all software developers that do not want to release their software on the app store?

 

[calderone]

You can't polish a turd.

Actually..

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/mythbusters-polishing-a-turd.html

 

[jive turkey]

Anxiously waiting to see what the system requirements will be....

 

[JohnDoe98]

Anyone else hoping they add an iBooks app?

Either add an ibooks app or improve and rename preview.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

It is now a whole new OS. Think of it as a large Lion update. If you've been having problems with Lion, you should be happy about this. The name "Mountain Lion" was not chosen to be cute--it's very much a Snow Leopard-style upgrade.

Thats the issue. Snow Leopard fixed bugs, Lion added iOS features and broke things, now Mountain Lion is adding more iOS features and fixing the things Lion broke. Its a never ending cycle. The last complete good from the start OS Apple has released was Leopard. Now we have Lion working fine and are actually ready to start rolling it out to our Production team. Not going to happen now. No way I am wasting resources on updating computers every 12 months thats impossible. It takes 3-5 months to update all our computer OS's and if we are doing this every year we are going to be chasing our tails for the life of OSX.

 

[Liquinn]

I just realised the sad part about Mountain Lion.

Apple said they are wanting a yearly OS X release schedule like iOS. You'd think yay more OS X updates for me. But the hidden downside is each yearly OS X update will require a better and better Mac. Forcing you to update your Mac more frequently.

Sure this is ok for iOS users cause they just get a new device when their contract runs out. But many people keep their Macs for 5+ years. Cause they just last so long. And this means the lifespan your new Mac will still be able to run the latest versions of OS X will shrink I think.

This could be a way Apple is trying to boost Mac sales. At the moment the earliest Mac that can run ML is from 2007. That is 5 years ago. But I'm sure with the new yearly release schedule that 5 years will shrink to 4 years then 3 years then who knows.

I sure am not buying a new Mac every 3 years. Every 5 years I just might though. If this happens I just might be forced to run an older OS for a while till I buy that new Mac.

I see here and I agree.

 

[dwright1974]

From: http://pastebin.com/Q5yishhi

This is interesting. I have a late 2008 MBP (The first Unibody MBP) and according to this list mine isn't supported but the first 13" Unibody MacBook is.

Wonder why this is as I have a discreet GPU in mine!

- D

EDIT: Actually I'm confused by that list because it does say Core2Duo 2.4 in brackets so I'm in the 'it might be' camp!)

 

[roadbloc]

well thats a big maybe to me, would apple really want to cut ties will all software developers that do not want to release their software on the app store?

Yes. They would and they will.

 

[adztaylor]

Anxiously waiting to see what the system requirements will be....

Posted a couple of pages back....

Boy I'm gonna get busted but I don't care.

Here ya go :


OS X Mountain Lion requires a Mac with a 64-bit kernel. Mountain Lion supports the following Mac models:
• iMac (mid 2007 or later)
• MacBook (13-inch Aluminum, 2008), (13-inch, Early 2009 or later)
• MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid-2009 or later), (15-inch, 2.4/2.2 GHz), (17-inch, Late 2007 or later)
• MacBook Air (Late 2008 or later)
• Mac Mini (Early 2009 or later)
• Mac Pro (Early 2008 or later)
• Xserve (Early 2009)

 

[Liquinn]

Anxiously waiting to see what the system requirements will be....

There's a pastebin link on here somewhere that was posted earlier. Cheers

 

[Chupa Chupa]

This is the most interesting feature for me. It will eliminate the excuses for anyone not to cut the cable and buy an Apple TV.

Anyone? No. Unfortunately, DirecTV will still have me by the shorthairs for a very long time b/c I'm not giving up NFL football.

 

[MikeM1988]

there definitely is a way! https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3209335?start=0&tstart=0

Thanks for the cite, but I just don't feel confident enough to jump through those hoops.

The Mac Mini is my home unit, so the loss of Save As doesn't often come into play, unless I happen to bring work home.

At work, it's another story entirely. No Mac in our small business will be upgraded to Lion/Mountain Lion unless and until the option to turn off Auto Save/Versioning and have Save As available as before is added.

I know my bosses and my co-workers. There would be screams of outrage...and I would be joining the chorus.


I don't mean to drift too far off-topic here. I hope someone will let us know if there's any indication that Mountain Lion gives one the option to disable Autosave/Versioning and revert to the saving scheme that prevailed on Macs for 27 straight years.

 

[bushido]

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they will probably wait til the iPad 3 keynote and announce a few more tweaks then

 

[Xenomorph]

iMessages, Game Center, AirPlay .... *sigh* I guess it's time for me to finally switch all my computers to Macs to match all my iOS devices.

 

[JohnDoe98]

Anyone? No. Unfortunately, DirecTV will still have me by the shorthairs for a very long time b/c I'm not giving up NFL football.

You can get NFL through the ATV

 

[cambookpro]

Well I didn't see this coming. And I'm glad Apple is going to a yearly release cycle, OS X always exites me

Anyone think that yearly release = because merging with iOS? I hope not, but it's a possibility.

 

[miles01110]

Anyone? No. Unfortunately, DirecTV will still have me by the shorthairs for a very long time b/c I'm not giving up NFL football.

They should make a deal with the cable providers to allow NFL GamePass HD in the States. Pretty much the best deal ever.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

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they will probably wait til the iPad 3 keynote and announce a few more tweaks then

It'll be interesting to see what happens at WWDC.

 

[Liquinn]

iMessages, Game Center, AirPlay .... *sigh* I guess it's time for me to finally switch all my computers to Macs to match all my iOS devices.

What do you mean?

 

[Cougarcat]

I just realised the sad part about Mountain Lion.

Apple said they are wanting a yearly OS X release schedule like iOS. You'd think yay more OS X updates for me. But the hidden downside is each yearly OS X update will require a better and better Mac. Forcing you to update your Mac more frequently.

Sure this is ok for iOS users cause they just get a new device when their contract runs out. But many people keep their Macs for 5+ years. Cause they just last so long. And this means the lifespan your new Mac will still be able to run the latest versions of OS X will shrink I think.

This could be a way Apple is trying to boost Mac sales. At the moment the earliest Mac that can run ML is from 2007. That is 5 years ago. But I'm sure with the new yearly release schedule that 5 years will shrink to 4 years then 3 years then who knows.

You only have to worry about this if Apple changes the CPU architecture, and that will not happen every three years. They recently made the change from 32 to 64 bit which is why some macs have been cut off from OS updates recently.

 

[Cjm1]

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I didn't expect that

I did. Lion is a piece of crap and im glad Apple have noticed. So many bugs the beta copy I had was better. I was having a debate with a friend last night and even he said I wouldn't be surprised if Apple announce it at the end of the year!

 

[gcmexico]

I like this update

wish I can have it now!!!

 

[cwwilson]

So Lion didn't even make it past a year before being replaced. I knew a lot of people hated it but seeing as I didn't join the Mac scene myself until Snow Leopard, I didn't see why. The main thing I don't like about Lion is the wifi issues but even I have learned to just deal with it. SL was great though, especially 10.6.8

I wonder what the min specs will be for Mountain Lion...Hard to believe but my iMac is getting long in the tooth. I dread the day that the "i" series processors will be the required CPUs, effectively ending Core2 support.

Edit: Ah, I see now! I'm in the clear I thought the 9400 GPU in this thing might hold it back.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

Man this install is taking forever and a day!!!!