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This update is a fully fledged catastrophe for me because nothing really works! All programs, including mail, disappeared and can't be run, not even system preferences. Spotlight doesn't work either, the system is so much slowed down, that even after two minutes folder content is not shown. Different new starts didn't help, there is also no App Store. I have a total new MBP bought about two months ago, it's not the hardware. All these problems occurred only right after installing the new update.

Now I reinstall the former system from times machine (this takes four hours). I wonder how Apple can confront beta testers with such an update. I will quit the beta tester status.

I wonder, is there nobody else who experienced similar problems?
 
Better than Yosemite? Yes, not surprising given the number of bugs in Yosemtie.
Better than Mavericks? No. I don't see removing usable features as progress. (Disk Utility has been shot, Photos is a joke, Spotlight isn't finding things it could find in Mavericks, user interface is childish compared to Mavericks, etc.) To add insult to injury many bugs from Yosemite haven't been fixed, such as Time Machine, Finder and Image Capture.

In nutshell when I use Mavericks everything works, if I use Yosemite things don't work and if I use El Capitan things work mostly.
Depends on what you use most I believe. Disk Utility works without problems for me (repairing partitions, creating dmgs), I haven't opened iPhoto or Photos in ages (same goes for image capture), Spotlight I only use for launching applications (which admittably is so slow, it always misses the first few letters I type) and Time Machine is being run manually every two months or so. It then takes some minutes but who cares.

And about the UI: I rather enjoy the calm nature, although a little less colorful icons would still be appreciated (like that hurl-green harddisk symbol). The font I started to like after the first dot-zero-beta, where they fixed the hinting, making it now very crisp to look at on non-retina monitors. It is just half a point too small, I fear.

Mavericks was pretty good, I admit, but I only started to use it at the end of its cycle. Give El Cap two more dot upgrades. I'm sure, everythign will work out.

I think of El Cap as a system functionality upgrade. Things at the core *start* to just work (again). The more complex applications on top of it are a different matter.
 
This update is a fully fledged catastrophe for me because nothing really works! All programs, including mail, disappeared and can't be run, not even system preferences. Spotlight doesn't work either, the system is so much slowed down, that even after two minutes folder content is not shown. Different new starts didn't help, there is also no App Store. I have a total new MBP bought about two months ago, it's not the hardware. All these problems occurred only right after installing the new update.

Now I reinstall the former system from times machine (this takes four hours). I wonder how Apple can confront beta testers with such an update. I will quit the beta tester status.

I wonder, is there nobody else who experienced similar problems?

You should really install to a blank partition instead of upgrading on top of an existing one. Everything works great. Also a full system restore from a super duper image via ssd takes me a few minutes, sorry to hear about your 4 hours long time machine experience.
 
For whatever reason, Safari under 10.11.0 couldn't load Facebook's website for me. Had to update to 10.11.1, which took like an hour to install. I don't know why I didn't just stay at Yosemite -_- (well, it was on my secondary computer, so whatever).

Scrolling through Facebook freezes my whole system (except the cursor). Reboot via the power button is my only way out. 10.11.1 didn't help me at all.
 



Apple today seeded the first beta of OS X 10.11.2 El Capitan to public beta testers, just days after releasing the first beta to developers and just over a week after the public launch of OS X El Capitan 10.11.1.

The new beta is available through the Software Update mechanism in the Mac App Store to those who are enrolled in Apple's beta testing program. Those wishing to join the program can sign up on Apple's beta testing website.

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It's not yet known what improvements the latest update to OS X El Capitan will bring, but it's likely to include bug fixes, security enhancements, and performance improvements to address issues discovered since the release of OS X 10.11.1. Apple's release notes for the first developer beta asked testers to focus on Graphics, Wi-Fi, Calendar, USB, Notes, Photos, and Spotlight.

Article Link: Apple Releases First OS X 10.11.2 El Capitan Beta to Public Beta Testers
 
Thank God for Apple Time Machine 2 year old Mac Book Pro. I upgraded to El Capitan and my internet connection froze. After doing a restore I got everything back. That's it for me, no more early upgrades. Same thing happened with the last upgrade but that time Time maching didn't work. It took 4 months of hell before an Apple update fixed things.
 
What? Nothing about the death of the Chromebook? Surely that's good news for Mac OS X ??
Is this humour? All I know is that within a year or a bit more Chrome OS and Android are going to merge into one, which makes a lot of sense – the main reason I use my Chromebook with Linux is that Chrome OS sucks donkey dong, unlike Android.

I have exactly two problems with 10.11.1. One is a lot of music related software not working, which might be resolved either by Steinberg & Co or by Apple. The other is my mouse lagging, which I do expect to be resolved by 10.11.2. I'm going to wait for public release though. Must admit that after all the "El Capitan is Snow Yosemite! Everything will work perfectly! No bugs!" it turned out to be somewhat disappointing.
 
Depends on what you use most I believe. Disk Utility works without problems for me (repairing partitions, creating dmgs), I haven't opened iPhoto or Photos in ages (same goes for image capture), Spotlight I only use for launching applications (which admittably is so slow, it always misses the first few letters I type) and Time Machine is being run manually every two months or so. It then takes some minutes but who cares.

And about the UI: I rather enjoy the calm nature, although a little less colorful icons would still be appreciated (like that hurl-green harddisk symbol). The font I started to like after the first dot-zero-beta, where they fixed the hinting, making it now very crisp to look at on non-retina monitors. It is just half a point too small, I fear.

Mavericks was pretty good, I admit, but I only started to use it at the end of its cycle. Give El Cap two more dot upgrades. I'm sure, everythign will work out.

I think of El Cap as a system functionality upgrade. Things at the core *start* to just work (again). The more complex applications on top of it are a different matter.

It just that I am getting tired of direction Apple has unfortunately chosen to follow, I don't see any real improvements in Yosemite or El Capitan for my needs compared to Mavericks. More troubling is that important functions are not as reliable as they should be (Disk Utility removes partition, Time Machine backup corruption without warning, Spotlight issue might be because of corrupt index but creating new index from scratch didn't help, etc.) I am considering going back to Mavericks permanently because of these issues.

I hope Apple would include option in the installer to choose what is installed like in 10.6 and older versions. That would make me content because I am fed up with constant and pointless additions to OS X! Obliviously I don't need to use additions (Photos, iCloud etc.) but it is pointless to have them running constantly in the background taking processor time and RAM which I could use for other purposes.
 
PLEASE PLEASE fix Spotlight. I use it to open literally everything because.... well, it was WAS faster than even clicking the finder or any other method. Now.... maybe after a minute it will find something.... it will instantly for .003 seconds then take it away, give whited out screen, think, think so more, display something totally different, and open something other than what you select. As for using it to search the web.... yellow pages would be faster, and that includes trying to even find a copy of the archaic book.
 
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Remember the bug where an incompatibility with Mavericks would cause WD's hardware RAID manager software to kill all the data on your WD RAID drives? Never update until you know WD is ready. BTW, I don't know if OS updates ever "just worked" with old software. I remember Leopard especially causing problems. But at least the updates weren't shoved down our throats as much.

Very true. Don't upgrade early or face the consequences. Like mea,
 
Have you submitted feedback to Apple about it? Downloaded the PB to see if it's resolved? Or do you think random posts on a forum thread about how things used to "just work" will somehow get it fixed? :p
I contacted Igor at WD (you know, Igor?) and he said they'd look into it. Yeah. Right. I upgraded too wick it seems. Dammit!
 
This beta killed some of my 2015 imac USB ports. Only one out of the four random one will work now at any time. If I boot to a 10.11.1 ext drive they work fine. Also audio sometimes drops out till a restart. I'm going to clone back and wait. Not good...
 
15C27e = public beta
15c30 = dev beta

Isn't?

But 15C27E was also dev beta. Pub beta not showing up for me after having the "E" dev beta installed.

I'd say it's the other way round.


They have both the same build number 15C27e.

A build number without a letter at the end is a final version. It seems it's just a newer non official beta and it has been labeled wrong. So only people who did a recovery until it was fixed got that 15C30 build.
 
This beta killed some of my 2015 imac USB ports. Only one out of the four random one will work now at any time. If I boot to a 10.11.1 ext drive they work fine. Also audio sometimes drops out till a restart. I'm going to clone back and wait. Not good...

I noticed too, that sometimes after a reboot the chime is coming from an internal speaker and I also had the same problems with the USB ports when I updated to the latest beta of 10.11.1 as I got my new iMac. All USB ports were working with keyboard and mouse, but only one with an external drive and the speed was like USB 2.0. Seems I have to try if that issue is back again in 10.11.2 beta.

I don't want to get back to 10.11.1 because it's permanently asking for my iCloud password. So if that USB issue still exists with 10.11.2 I really send the iMac back. I already made a request for that on the online Apple Store, before the 14 days expired. FedEx emailed me yesterday to arrange an appointment to collect it.

I am not sure if I really want to give it back... :oops: Since I got the 5k iMac, the screen of my non Retina MacBook appears really awful. :( But I don't want a buggy 10.11.1 or a 10.11.2 that has not implemented the correct drivers.

Maybe I should get a much cheaper used 2014 5k iMac until OS X is really ready for Skylake. Can't decide what to do... :(
 
This update is a fully fledged catastrophe for me because nothing really works! All programs, including mail, disappeared and can't be run, not even system preferences. Spotlight doesn't work either, the system is so much slowed down, that even after two minutes folder content is not shown. Different new starts didn't help, there is also no App Store. I have a total new MBP bought about two months ago, it's not the hardware. All these problems occurred only right after installing the new update.

Now I reinstall the former system from times machine (this takes four hours). I wonder how Apple can confront beta testers with such an update. I will quit the beta tester status.

I wonder, is there nobody else who experienced similar problems?

Everything with my iMac running 10.11.2 is running perfectly.
 
Solution:

Do not go to Facebook.

If only it were that simple. Facebook is the one site where I'm guaranteed a freeze/crash, so yes, I am avoiding that site, obviously. But it's also happening, though less frequently, on other sites. But Safari stutters on all sites, the beach ball appears all the time whilst scrolling, SD cards are ejected randomly, Evoluent's mouse buttons no longer all work... There are many irritations with El Cap. I'm amazed and disappointed that Apple would release an update so far from being ready for the public. Yosemite was working perfectly for me.

The bottom line is that I shouldn't have to avoid Facebook on an operating system update released to the public. If I'd just spent $4k on a new iMac and it worked this badly, I'd be pretty angry.
 
I noticed too, that sometimes after a reboot the chime is coming from an internal speaker and I also had the same problems with the USB ports when I updated to the latest beta of 10.11.1 as I got my new iMac. All USB ports were working with keyboard and mouse, but only one with an external drive and the speed was like USB 2.0. Seems I have to try if that issue is back again in 10.11.2 beta.

I don't want to get back to 10.11.1 because it's permanently asking for my iCloud password. So if that USB issue still exists with 10.11.2 I really send the iMac back. I already made a request for that on the online Apple Store, before the 14 days expired. FedEx emailed me yesterday to arrange an appointment to collect it.

I am not sure if I really want to give it back... :oops: Since I got the 5k iMac, the screen of my non Retina MacBook appears really awful. :( But I don't want a buggy 10.11.1 or a 10.11.2 that has not implemented the correct drivers.

Maybe I should get a much cheaper used 2014 5k iMac until OS X is really ready for Skylake. Can't decide what to do... :(

When I cloned back 10.11.1 final, the usb and audio issues were gone. Something weird going on between 10.11.2 beta and the new 2015 imac 27".
 
Well unless we both had a freak series of events that caused it, there must be a weird bug in the beta. I didn't get a chance to send feedback to Apple before bailing out unfortunately. So I hope they caught it before the next one.
 
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