Apple Releases First Public Beta of macOS Catalina to Public Beta Testers

flexiboy1912

macrumors member
May 13, 2016
83
194
Stay clear!!! I tried and had to revert back on 2 devices. New music and tv app don't work , lots and lots of crashes and restarts. Very unstable at the moment.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Morod

TMRJIJ

macrumors 68040
Dec 12, 2011
3,247
5,415
South Carolina, United States
Thing is, joe public aren’t going to know about this. You need to seek out the PB’s to be able to install them.

You’d think anyway.
The Average Joe knows how to use Twitter and Snapchat and will find themselves on this Beta. Trust me, I've seen it on my College Campus. About 3 out of 10 Joes will take the bait and 1 will complain.
[doublepost=1561397457][/doublepost]
Stay clear!!! I tried and had to revert back on 2 devices. New music and tv app don't work , lots and lots of crashes and restarts. Very unstable at the moment.
Beta software is Beta
 
  • Like
Reactions: martyjmclean

theodorr

macrumors newbie
Jan 26, 2019
21
2
Apple’s Beta Software site is under maintenance rn... I wonder if we’ll see a public beta for iOS today
 

Mike Haas

macrumors regular
Aug 7, 2014
164
123
I hope. My trash bin is way too full. I could really use that emptying function now.
Eh? B2 trash empties just fine for me - I'm sorry you're having an issue. I'm hoping that home sharing works in B3. The option is there but I can't connect on either the iPhone (ios 13 B2) or the Apple TV 4.
 
  • Like
Reactions: moooooooo

ChronicLynx

macrumors member
Aug 5, 2018
30
32
I’m not sure how they could launch this given the current state of things. They should have at least waited for another build. Some of you have no issues apparently, but the issues that do exist for some are very bad.
 

ian-frs

macrumors 6502
Apr 12, 2007
447
32
Jax
If I could actually get my second monitor to work with my hub then the beta isn't the worst I've seen, but god help anyone who wants a second monitor to work with a usb c hub.
 

Realityck

macrumors regular
Nov 9, 2015
174
111
Silicon Valley, CA
This is really early. Although Catalina is about to become the best macOS release in years, it's very buggy at this time with some critical bugs still there.
Just for comparison, June 25, 2018 for Apple issues first public betas of iOS 12 and tvOS 12 and June 26 2018, for Apple rolls out first public beta of macOS 10.14 Mojave. So about the same as last year.
 

chrisdazzo

macrumors 6502a
Apr 11, 2006
628
399
Colorado
For reference, Dev beta 2 build was 19A487l.
Public beta 1 build is 19A487m. Not much of a difference - if you ask me, I'm still waiting for Public beta 2 or 3.

Thanks @Realityck for the build #.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: EugW

Internet Enzyme

macrumors 6502a
Feb 21, 2016
868
1,367
That graphic, with inverted "atali" is stunningly ugly. I can't believe Apple did that... (assuming that's the official beta testing header - I tried clicking through but all I get is an "We're Busy" on a gray page).
No, that's just a dumb custom MacRumors photoshop blending flub
 

justperry

macrumors G4
Aug 10, 2007
10,710
6,278
I'm a rolling stone.
Now available in UK
Started download
Be careful installing this, it's by no means as stable as last years betas, Mojave was a lot more stable.
Think this one is the least stable one since I started using OS X almost 2 decades ago, well, the first beta wasn't that stable.
It's quite a mess, Time Machine/Finder being the worst ones, lots of services crashes too.
I was losing more and more space on beta 1, the more I deleted the less space I got, a terminal showed me I had just 1 Local backup, disk repair showed 12, got me thinking, but someone told me to switch of automatic ™ backup, I instantly got my space back and now could update to beta 2.
Time Machine takes forever to finish backups, last time before I switched it off it took hours to backup 1 GB, and it was hanging at 160 MB.
 

GadgetBen

macrumors 65816
Jul 8, 2015
1,312
2,159
London
Here comes the public complaining about battery life and bugs in a beta.
Try and understand, a Beta tester is a developer. A Public Beta tester is an Apple fan that can't wait. Apple will be aware of this trend and it is not going to change as more and more people will want the software early.

Especially now all of the media outlets are publishing articles explaining how the average Joe can get hold of it. Do a Google search for iOS13 and you'll see.
 

Realityck

macrumors regular
Nov 9, 2015
174
111
Silicon Valley, CA
Try and understand, a Beta tester is a developer. A Public Beta tester is an Apple fan that can't wait. Apple will be aware of this trend and it is not going to change as more and more people will want the software early.
Your looking at this wrong. If you have a fairly complex OS product environment and your trying to capture OS issues expediently or more thoroughly you can make use of external participants to increase the variance of testing platforms against normal workflow usage or third party app usage with a public beta program. Yes you see a large uptick on less experienced Apple enthusiasts participation, but you gain a lot of experienced/enterprise professionals also.
 
Last edited:

coolfactor

macrumors 601
Jul 29, 2002
4,669
4,789
Vancouver, BC
This is really early. Although Catalina is about to become the best macOS release in years, it's very buggy at this time with some critical bugs still there.
If they haven't incorporated the Finder improvements (Get Info window?), or fixed the slowness of the System Preferences application, I say it won't be the "best". No idea why those oversights keep missing the boat.

And I want Xgrid to return. It was such a promising feature, no idea why it was killed off. We have the networks and processing power now. Let's use it!
[doublepost=1561410925][/doublepost]
That graphic, with inverted "atali" is stunningly ugly. I can't believe Apple did that... (assuming that's the official beta testing header - I tried clicking through but all I get is an "We're Busy" on a gray page).
It seems to be related to their new advertising campaign .... 'That is iPhone'.... where they are using the stark white-black contrast throughout.
 

outskirtsofinfinity

macrumors 6502
Aug 2, 2017
256
769
Calgary
It seems to be related to their new advertising campaign .... 'That is iPhone'.... where they are using the stark white-black contrast throughout.
That could be. To me, it's as unfortunate as that iPhone wallpaper of Jupiter (or is it a soap bubble?) that they use in advertising which makes the iPhone looks really fat, like it's bulging out.

Anyway.
 

Mike Haas

macrumors regular
Aug 7, 2014
164
123
Well...I was really hoping for Dev B3. I have to say I'm not digging the separate Music and Apple TV apps even though the separation needed to happen since on the Mac, iTunes was always bloated. I think my issue is with the Apple TV app itself, probably because it represents (yet another) Apple service. On the Apple TV, there is an Apple TV app, for which we show no purchases. There is a separate "iTunes TV Shows" and "iTunes Movies" wherein our purchases are listed. This all seems cludgy and I'm curious if they will discontinue the "iTunes" versions and move our purchases into the Apple TV app/service schema.

I have home sharing turned on in Sys Prefs and the Apple TV recognizes I'm sharing a library but cannot connect to it. Same story on the iPhone (iOS 13). The music library works but not my own TV shows or movies. I know it's early but when something I consider that important (our Apple TV is our Home Theater System) it gives me the collywobbles. Plex works - but only if I use the VLC app to connect to the UPnP Plex service (!!!). Good 'ol Air Video Server HD and client are working wonderfully well. Naturally, it's no longer being maintained...

I installed the public Apple TV OS beta - no change in home sharing connectivity.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jbachandouris

ikir

macrumors 65816
Sep 26, 2007
1,434
927
For those with an Apple Watch set up to unlock the Mac, there's now an option to approve security prompts in Catalina by tapping on the side button of the watch. Macs with a T2 chip in them also support Activation Lock, making them useless to thieves much as it does on the iPhone.
love love love
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.