Apple Releases Fourth macOS Catalina Public Beta

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Apple today seeded the fourth beta of an upcoming macOS Catalina update to its public beta testing group, two weeks after seeding the third public beta and a day after seeding the fifth macOS Catalina developer beta.

Beta testers who have signed up for Apple's beta testing program will be able to download the macOS Catalina beta through the Software Update mechanism in System Preferences after installing the proper profile. Those who want to be a part of Apple's beta testing program can sign up to participate through the beta testing website, which gives users access to iOS, macOS, and tvOS betas.


Potential beta testers should make a full Time Machine backup before installing macOS Catalina, and it may not be wise to install it on a primary machine because betas can be unstable and often have many bugs.

macOS Catalina eliminates the iTunes app, which has been a key Mac feature since 2001. In Catalina, iTunes has been replaced by Music, Podcasts, and TV apps. The new apps can do everything that iTunes can do, so Mac users aren't going to be losing any functionality, and device management capabilities are now handled by the Finder app.

macOS Catalina has a useful new Sidecar feature, designed to turn the iPad into a secondary display for the Mac. It can work as a traditional second display or with a mirroring feature. Apple Pencil support works with Sidecar, so you can turn your iPad into a drawing tablet using apps like Photoshop.


For those with an Apple Watch set up to unlock the Mac, there's now an option to approve security prompts in Catalina by tapping on the side button of the watch. Macs with a T2 chip in them also support Activation Lock, making them useless to thieves much as it does on the iPhone.

There's a new Find My app that lets you track your lost devices, and previously, this functionality was only available via iCloud on the Mac. There's even a new option to find your devices even when they're offline by leveraging Bluetooth connections to other nearby devices, something that's particularly handy on the Mac because it doesn't have a cellular connection.


Apple is expanding Screen Time to the Mac in Catalina, letting Apple users track their device usage across Mac, iOS, and iPad for a better overall picture of time spent using electronics.

For developers, a "Project Catalyst" feature lets apps designed for the iPad be ported over to the Mac with just a few clicks in Xcode and some minor tweaks. Apple's ultimate goal with Project Catalyst is to bring more apps to the Mac.

Photos features an updated interface that better highlights your best pictures, Safari includes a new start page with Siri Suggestions, Mail has a new feature for blocking emails and another new option for muting threads, and the Reminders app has been overhauled and is now more useful.


Before installing macOS Catalina, be aware that it does not support 32-bit apps, so some older apps that have not been updated in some time may stop working. For more on macOS Catalina, make sure to check out our macOS Catalina roundup.

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Get ready to for your installation to hang at 9 minutes remaining forever :rolleyes:

Seriously, Apple still hasn’t fixed this and people are still experiencing incredibly long installations times in DP5 :mad:
 
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I believe the public beta is always identical to the previous development beta. However, please post if anyone installs this and has no issues with Firefox and/or Thunderbird. They're both broken in DB5 (Mozilla & Apple are aware).
 

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I'm still having issues with iCloud Drive too, including Documents and Desktop. The installation was quite smooth, and most of the apps I run are working fine, apart from the apps with files on iCloud like iWork apps.
 

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Get ready to for your installation to hang at 9 minutes remaining forever :rolleyes:

Seriously, Apple still hasn’t fixed this and people are still experiencing incredibly long installations times in DP5 :mad:
 

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My update read as beta 5, not 4.

Edit: Never mind I’m dumb. Just realized this was for the public release. Developer beta 5 out now as well.
 

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I believe the public beta is always identical to the previous development beta. However, please post if anyone installs this and has no issues with Firefox and/or Thunderbird. They're both broken in DB5 (Mozilla & Apple are aware).

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-seeds-fifth-beta-of-macos-catalina-to-developers.2191991/page-4#post-27588604

According to the bugzilla post.... "Apple responded indicating this is a macOS bug and they'll be fixing it. We don't have a time frame yet."
 
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nope, mine is already sailing smoothly by. Wonder if you really have that problem, what might cause it? Oops it just finished, gotta play!
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I'm still having issues with iCloud Drive too, including Documents and Desktop. The installation was quite smooth, and most of the apps I run are working fine, apart from the apps with files on iCloud like iWork apps.
interesting. Mine works fine
 
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What machine are you running? Mine's a 2019 15" MBP.
2014 MBP
[doublepost=1564684693][/doublepost]does anyone have bluetooth sound issues? Or does bluetooth work for anybody? I have bluetooth earphones, they work from my watch and from my iPhone. I can connect them to my Mac, and disconnect, but no sound plays. I can airplay fine, and bluetooth is working because I can open my Mac with my watch, and I can get handoff to work fine. This happened on last beta as well, don't know before that, I almost never connect to my Mac with Bluetooth earphones

Update: its working fine now. I poked around Bluetooth explorer a bit and must have reset something to the correct setting (although, I can't isolate it). The audio Options is where I believe reset occurred
 
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https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apple-seeds-fifth-beta-of-macos-catalina-to-developers.2191991/page-4#post-27588604

According to the bugzilla post.... "Apple responded indicating this is a macOS bug and they'll be fixing it. We don't have a time frame yet."
Hah, that's my bug report on Bugzilla. I was just hoping they were trialling a fix and it could be in this beta. Very very unlikely, but I thought I'd ask anyway!

Both crash on this public beta.
Very very unlikely now means 100% no chance :). Thanks for letting me know.
 

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Is it best to sign out of iCloud before upgrading to Catalina? I'm wondering if this is the reason I'm having conflict issues with iCloud sync.
I did a clean install, deleted usernames, and created a new one - so by definition I signed out then back in. And it works fine. Interesting too, before my MBP was running hot a lot, now its not. I wonder if some slimy dog software snuck in somewhere previously
 
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I’m getting the stuck on nine minutes problem reported on the Dev Beta board.... anyone know the solution? 2015 mbp13 retina.
Never ever had any problems before.
 

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Mine is trying to download the beta update and a final cut update but it never gets the final cut updates to work. It downloads the update, restarts, tries for a minute and then boots into the same version I’m on and says update failed. Nothing seems to work. I’ve deleted final cut and restarted and it’s still trying to get those updates
 

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I’m getting the stuck on nine minutes problem reported on the Dev Beta board.... anyone know the solution? 2015 mbp13 retina.
Never ever had any problems before.
Give it all the time it needs to finish running, I'm not joking. It could take days.
 
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I have tried enrolling and unenrolling several times. Still the software update dialog says, "requested update not found". I have also tried rebooting the machine but still no luck. Any advice? I'm running macOS Mojave 10.14.6
 

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Mine is trying to download the beta update and a final cut update but it never gets the final cut updates to work. It downloads the update, restarts, tries for a minute and then boots into the same version I’m on and says update failed. Nothing seems to work. I’ve deleted final cut and restarted and it’s still trying to get those updates
I had a problem like this on an earlier beta, where the apps needed to update, but seemed to take a long time, some waiting until overnight.

I did a clean install. I mean really clean, I backed up files (no need for apps because they are in the cloud anyway), deleted extra user names, created an external boot disk, then formatted drive, added user, and installed beta. Everything is working great now.

And to be fair, I hadn't done that before on my 2014. I was willing to do that because the laptop was running hot a lot (may have been sophos antivirus, but I never new for sure).

Or then again, it could be just that everyone is updating at once and the servers are overwhelmed. Mine updated fine though
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I have tried enrolling and unenrolling several times. Still the software update dialog says, "requested update not found". I have also tried rebooting the machine but still no luck. Any advice? I'm running macOS Mojave 10.14.6
Reinstall? https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/reinstall-macos-mchlp1599/mac

I went with a reformat of my drive and an really clean install of Catalina.

Also, there is an update log somewhere, I read that you could reset/delete this. But better google that one
 

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I really wouldn't like to do a clean install... Thanks for the tip on the update log. I tried to remove the App Store cache files but that didn't help. I usually haven't had that bad issues with installing public betas.
 

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To those of you who haven’t installed the beta at all, and were planning on using it as your primary OS- I highly recommend that you continue to wait.
 
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Mine is trying to download the beta update and a final cut update but it never gets the final cut updates to work. It downloads the update, restarts, tries for a minute and then boots into the same version I’m on and says update failed. Nothing seems to work. I’ve deleted final cut and restarted and it’s still trying to get those updates
I'm having the same issue on my 5K iMac 2017. It downloads, restarts, starts updating (black screen with white bar and Apple logo), but in two or three minutes I am on the login screen booting in the old version.
 
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