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Apple Seeds Fifth Beta of macOS Catalina to Developers
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I bet a fiver it will change to 35 or 26 (potentially some random higher number) very soon.
During beta 4 install process it was skipping between 1, 17 and 26.
I wouldn't call it interesting, that is how bugs are. Just because one person doesn't see it this second doesn't mean it doesn't exist and isn't waiting under the hood to rear its head.
My MacBook has remained signed in throughout all the betas and can still update apps, while my iMac is signed out and cannot sign back in or update. These machines are basically identical since they are both mine and used for the same purposes.
No offense to you personally, but I see way too many of this type of comment. I have to believe that some of these people....if the machine boots, displays the desktop, and a fist does not come through the screen and punch them in the face...they report it as stable.
So true, I’m edging tears both from sadness and a hysterical laughter.
[doublepost=1564610391][/doublepost]CATALINA BETA 4,5 INSTALLATION PROCESS SEEMS LIKE A ONE BIG SADISTIC JOKE.
My iMac is on Active Directory. Fixed an issue where it would say account locked after going to sleep. Nothing I would do would allow me to enter my password to unlock. With beta 5 I get the prompt to enter my password and Apple Watch unlock works again.
Just jumps from 35 min ,to 9min, to less than a min every time I push the power button... frustrating and comical.
Yes, it’s the exact same issue as with the beta 4, Damn they didn’t even look into it.
The fact is though, there isn’t like a hell lotta people with this problem, Otherwise we would have seen them complaining here.
If this doesn’t get fixed and I’ll have to wait 12 hours every time I update my MBP, I’mma lose my sh.it
Yep - my bug report to Mozilla seems to have gotten some traction, although the latest comment "We probably need to reach out to Apple" is annoying. I find it hard to believe no-one at all at Apple did even one test with Firefox or Thunderbird before releasing this beta.
In other words, I assume they knew they'd trashed those two programmes and thought "let's not tell them - maybe we can get people to use our own software instead".
Edit: It seems Apple really didn't test Firefox or Thunderbird at all. Maybe no-one at apple is allowed to use a browser that isn't Safari and mail that isn't Apple Mail! Acording to my Bugzilla, Mozilla asked Apple for help who replied saying it was their problem and they'll be fixing it. Good news - it'll be fixed. Bad news - I guess it'll mean waiting til the next beta.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1570451
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Has anyone followed Firefox Support steps being they mentioned in a post they just started working towards full support in macOS Catalina?
I found this regarding running the Preview version if the Beta Firefox wouldn't work, as they are aware that the regular Firefox installs are crashing. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1263931
That's an old (ish) issue related to security permissions / gatekeeping. That was fixed for most (and a workaround for others). This latest issue started today, with this latest beta, and appears to be a graphics issue.
Try this with Firefox (if you are getting the malicious software message) ... Go into Applications and right mouse click (to open menu) and select open.
it's not a security issue (this time!). It opens then immediately crashes. There was a previous issue that your solution may have worked on, but unfortunately not this one
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Messages now regularly won't shut down without a Force Quit. I've logged a feedback thingy but either Apple don't even test their own apps or it isn't going to affect many people.
In the 10 year’s or so that I’ve been testing betas, Catalina’s are the worst.
With this latest Beta, the installation got stuck with the Apple logo and the progress bar around 2/3 of the way. It’s been like that for 4 hours.
After forcefully powering off the Mac and powering on again I was prompted with the log in screen with Mojave’s background. Typed in the password, press entered... the progress bar took like 10 min to reach the end and now stuck there for the last 30 or so minutes.
I won’t be updating any other machines from Beta 4, that one gave me a lot of problems but Beta 5 isn’t even loading up.
With this latest Beta, the installation got stuck with the Apple logo and the progress bar around 2/3 of the way. It’s been like that for 4 hours.
After forcefully powering off the Mac and powering on again I was prompted with the log in screen with Mojave’s background. Typed in the password, press entered... the progress bar took like 10 min to reach the end and now stuck there for the last 30 or so minutes.
I won’t be updating any other machines from Beta 4, that one gave me a lot of problems but Beta 5 isn’t even loading up.
Simply not true and it isn't up for opinionated debate.
that’s what happened to me when going from PB1 to PB2 and I just rolled back to Mojave. I can’t believe Apple still hasn’t fixed this!
But I’ve read in the Catalina forums that it does indeed just takes hours to install for some with some extreme cases.
Does anyone with a platter drive hear much in the way of disk activity during these long installs? Can't tell with my SSDs.
But my hunch is that it is attempting to fix the numerous filesystem and permissions issues caused by earlier Catalina betas.
But my hunch is that it is attempting to fix the numerous filesystem and permissions issues caused by earlier Catalina betas.
You seemed to forget High Sierra, it has extremely bad betas and came out like an alpha release. Don’t worry though because we’re going to have another trash High Sierra-like release with Catalina anyways.
Sad to see no fix for cover/album art.
On the bright side I now have working personal email which didn't work since Dev Preview 1. My exchange account from work worked fine and had no problems.
Update: Signing out of Music and signing back in seems to have fixed problem. Personal library of movies still missing artwork. Guessing I will have to delete reimport.
On the bright side I now have working personal email which didn't work since Dev Preview 1. My exchange account from work worked fine and had no problems.
Update: Signing out of Music and signing back in seems to have fixed problem. Personal library of movies still missing artwork. Guessing I will have to delete reimport.
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Would like to get on the -beta cycle. But I jumped off when Mojave came out. Choose not to and am still on High Sierra. I'll wait skip Mojave and go straight to Catalina when it comes out. Besides I like Catalina, as a place, much more than Mojave.
[doublepost=1564620327][/doublepost]I never ever had any trouble installing, I have had at least 10 macbooks in the past 5 years,Catalina beta is fantastic, I use it as my main operating system, I do all my work on it. Never any issue whatsoever. The only tiny thing is VLC takes longer to open, and the worst thing is I cant drag and drop into the same folder, I can still drag and drop anywhere else. Then again we could never do that on windows either.
Make sure you always install properly, that is, create a usb pen installation drive. Format the whole drive and start always as a new computer. I do this every year with the new OS, never ever had any issue at all.
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Why? Mojave was perfect, I don't understand people with issues, as a mac user for the last 12 years I never had 1 single issue whatsoever, then again I always format the entire drive and install nothing from backups, always like a new computer, all systems have been perfect.
Could be better I know, because my windows 10 starts much quicker than Mac os. On the same computer.
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Of course no, if you format your drive and install from 0, you wont have any issues, on any version of any OS. If you cant be bothered to do that, then you should have just waited for the final release.
I assume you properly formatted the drive before installing fresh? This is what we do on betas, never had any issue.
Nah, Catalina Beta is the most problematic since Lion imo (the first beta OS I used). Exacerbated by Apple pushing it out to the public too early. But perhaps they needed a bigger user pool to help iron out the issues.